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Post by Positivity KS on Dec 12, 2022 16:40:57 GMT -6
I still can't believe the plan for the weekly ROH TV will be to pay $10 a month or whatever on Honor Club to watch, and then not even get PPVs included. They're absolutely included. Just have to wait like 90 days.
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Post by randomone on Dec 12, 2022 16:41:55 GMT -6
I think it was a way to get the titles off FTR and onto the most decorated team in ROH history now that they're going back to Honor Club/TV sorta. It makes more sense to have them on the Briscoes than FTR at this point if that's the case and if FTR is taking time off.
I don't think this was long term booking by any means, especially because there's no way of knowing where ROH was headed this time last year when the first match happened.
I also think it was a last minute announcement because the Briscoes can't be on AEW TV, so there's no way to actually promote that match outside of YouTube/Social Media I guess.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Dec 12, 2022 16:42:06 GMT -6
Yeah I meant live PPVs.
Waiting 3 months is fine I guess.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Dec 12, 2022 16:43:13 GMT -6
I think it was a way to get the titles off FTR and onto the most decorated team in ROH history now that they're going back to Honor Club/TV sorta. It makes more sense to have them on the Briscoes than FTR at this point if that's the case and if FTR is taking time off. I don't think this was long term booking by any means, especially because there's no way of knowing where ROH was headed this time last year when the first match happened. I also think it was a last minute announcement because the Briscoes can't be on AEW TV, so there's no way to actually promote that match outside of YouTube/Social Media I guess. They announce every other damn thing on social media. You couldn't announce it on Twitter a couple weeks out and then have FTR sell the match on Dynamite?
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Post by randomone on Dec 12, 2022 16:44:46 GMT -6
I still can't believe the plan for the weekly ROH TV will be to pay $10 a month or whatever on Honor Club to watch, and then not even get PPVs included. I think they'll work the kinks out, but in a day in age where WWE has their PPVs for essentially as low as $5-$10 a month, you'd think ROH's 4 a year PPVs (maybe that many?) would be included for Honor Club. That's ridiculous.
Highspots you can get all the PWGs/shows/indies/etc for $10 a month. The Cock is $10 (despite lacking a ton of past programming, you still have all the PPVs). Honor Club needs to have all the old PPVs and shows at the very least, not just a selected amount for $10.
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Post by randomone on Dec 12, 2022 16:45:25 GMT -6
It's not fine IMO, you shouldn't have to wait 3 months for a PPV. It should be built into the price of your service.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Dec 12, 2022 16:47:15 GMT -6
I still can't believe the plan for the weekly ROH TV will be to pay $10 a month or whatever on Honor Club to watch, and then not even get PPVs included. I think they'll work the kinks out, but in a day in age where WWE has their PPVs for essentially as low as $5-$10 a month, you'd think ROH's 4 a year PPVs (maybe that many?) would be included for Honor Club. That's ridiculous.
Highspots you can get all the PWGs/shows/indies/etc for $10 a month. The Cock is $10 (despite lacking a ton of past programming, you still have all the PPVs). Honor Club needs to have all the old PPVs and shows at the very least, not just a selected amount for $10.
PPVs are a nice business for Tony. But he has to realize ROH isn't AEW. People aren't shelling out $40 to watch a ROH PPV. You are right. Absolutely no reason for Honor Club to be just the TV show and some old PPVs for $10/month.
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Post by randomone on Dec 12, 2022 17:22:08 GMT -6
How long ago was when FTR announced they were debating taking time off in 2023?
Maybe he didn’t know that far out? Or maybe the plan was all along to do this match on the third ROH PPV in a row? Only he knows I guess.
Regardless I’m fine with the end result.
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Post by Positivity KS on Dec 12, 2022 17:31:15 GMT -6
Zero chance I'm doing this $10 a month ROH dealio.
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Post by jackref on Dec 12, 2022 19:32:36 GMT -6
Why can't Briscoes be on AEW TV? Every other ROH person is.
And Tony is nuts if he thinks more than a dozen people not named Meltzer are going to shell out $120 a year to watch ROH matches that don't include live PPVs.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Dec 12, 2022 19:37:26 GMT -6
Why can't Briscoes be on AEW TV? Every other ROH person is. This has puzzled me all year.
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Post by Positivity KS on Dec 12, 2022 19:41:06 GMT -6
Why can't Briscoes be on AEW TV? Every other ROH person is. This has puzzled me all year. Gay slur on Twitter 10 years ago that Jay has apologized for and addressed at least 7 times since then.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Dec 12, 2022 19:52:47 GMT -6
Thank you KS.
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Post by randomone on Dec 12, 2022 20:00:04 GMT -6
Yeah it’s a ridiculous reason.
They should’ve been allowed on AEW TV
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Dec 12, 2022 20:02:29 GMT -6
Warner Bros-Discovery is really ridiculous.
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Post by Positivity KS on Dec 16, 2022 9:26:40 GMT -6
Tony Khan presented his third Ring of Honor pay-per-view event last Saturday, Final Battle.
According to the latest edition of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Dave Meltzer, the event had 25,000 pay-per-view buys (19,000 streaming and 6,400 cable) based on first-week estimates. Meltzer noted that first-week estimates are “always low in the end by five to 10 percent.”
Supercard of Honor drew 23,000 buys in April, and Death Before Dishonor did 37,000 buys in July.
Despite early estimates, the show had the highest PPV number and attendance of any ROH Final Battle in company history. The show drew 2,700 people, with 2,500 paying admission at the College Park Center.
The main event featured Chris Jericho defending his ROH World Title against Claudio Castagnoli. The Briscoes (Mark & Jay Briscoe) vs. FTR in a double dog collar match for the ROH World Tag Team Titles was also featured on the show (Dax Harwood & Cash Wheeler).
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Post by Positivity KS on Jan 19, 2023 16:32:49 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on Jan 23, 2023 13:23:24 GMT -6
Love this
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Post by randomone on Jan 26, 2023 11:14:36 GMT -6
3 hour tribute show is up. Mixed with the matches taped last week and some of the Briscoes greatest matches/moments.
I'm just starting it.
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Post by randomone on Jan 26, 2023 15:30:44 GMT -6
Here’s the full card and matches in how they happened
Wheeler Yuta vs Hagane Shinno Adam Cole vs Jay Briscoe - Final Battle 2015 Adam Cole in ring tribute Marina Shafir vs Mighty Myra Eddie Kingston vs QT Marshall Jay Briscoe vs Christopher Daniels - ROH Athena vs Madison Rayne Juice Robinson vs Brandon Cutler Yuka Sakazaki vs Sandra Moone Briscoes vs Kings of Wrestling Final Battle 2006 Claudio Castagnoli vs Christopher Daniels
Tributes from guys backstage sharing stories too. Great story from Austin Gunn about how he stitched up Jay his first night in ROH as a rookie since the doctors left during the main event.
It’s a good watch. Some great tributes. Matches seemed random, but involved people who previously wrestled in ROH. Except Marina, but commentary mentioned how she’s Roderick Strong’s wife.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Jan 26, 2023 17:37:23 GMT -6
Man this show is great. Seeing a lot of the old matches I haven't seen in a while.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Jan 26, 2023 17:45:03 GMT -6
Kevin Kelly and Steve Corino were an underrated commentary duo.
Corino following Don Callis kind of hurt him but he was solid in his own right.
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Post by randomone on Jan 26, 2023 19:40:46 GMT -6
I was always sad when Corino left for a NXT trainer job. His commentary with Kevin was great during that time in New Japan & ROH
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Post by randomone on Feb 15, 2023 13:53:00 GMT -6
TV Tapings for ROH start next week in Florida and will begin airing Thursdays on Honor Club.
I think this is back to where ROH was to begin with by having only been on Honor Club. I don't see many folks buying it. Just put it on YouTube with your Dark & Elevation. Try to carve out an audience that way.
I hope it succeeds and more folks get ring time and more exposure, but this seems to be a lateral move.
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Post by Positivity KS on Feb 15, 2023 16:27:10 GMT -6
Zero chance I'm paying for Honor Club.
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Post by jackref on Feb 15, 2023 16:32:17 GMT -6
Tony Khan and money
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Feb 18, 2023 13:32:06 GMT -6
I don't think this is going to be must-see.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 18, 2023 17:24:12 GMT -6
Wait, ROH is gonna be in the Impact Zone?
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Feb 18, 2023 17:45:39 GMT -6
It's where they tape (taped?) episodes of Dark and Elevation too.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 18, 2023 19:16:14 GMT -6
It's where they tape (taped?) episodes of Dark and Elevation too. Wow, no shit. All this time I didn't realize it was the same building.
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