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Post by randomone on Jul 5, 2018 18:04:26 GMT -6
I'm only watching matches now from RAW 2000. Makes it go much quicker. Opening segments are like 25 minutes of talking. So many other little segments too.
Anyways, from January to the end of July, the Big Show's turns..... -Started the year as WWE Champion (babyface) -Progressively turned heel on The Rock post Rumble and sided with Shane McMahon (heel) -Post Mania became a guy who imitated people to have fun (babyface) -Realigned with Shane one week (heel) until later in the show we see Shane said he brainwashed Show, so Show said he's dead (babyface) -Returned in July to get revenge on Shane, but re-realigned with Shane to beat up Taker (heel)
Then I know Show doesn't come back until the 01 Rumble, but holy shit, even for the Attitude Era and Big Show, 5 turns in the span of 6 months.
Only reason I'm posting this is because I literally forgot a few of those.
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Post by All Drop In on Jul 5, 2018 18:16:11 GMT -6
According to a source in WWE, the company is preparing to shift its focus on WWE Network content. As Brad Shepard of Barn Burner recently reported, NXT is expected to end up on FS1, after Smackdown Live officially begins airing on Fox. This would leave a void on the WWE Network, where NXT currently airs.
WWE is looking to focus more of its network content on independent and non-WWE professional wrestling.
WWE was recently in Japan for live events, however, WWE COO Paul "Triple H" Levesque was expected to travel to Japan as well.
WWE has entered into an agreement with Pro Wrestling Noah and WWE NXT Superstar Hideo Itami is expected to work a Pro Wrestling Noah "Flight" show on September 1st, 2018. That was the first step in the new relationship between WWE and Pro Wrestling Noah.
However, the relationship between WWE and Pro Wrestling Noah is expected to go even further. The reason Levesque was scheduled to go to Japan was to meet with Pro Wrestling Noah executives, to finalize a deal that would eventually put Pro Wrestling Noah on the WWE Network. This is only one of what is expected to be numerous relationships between WWE and independent/non-WWE companies, which would see their content on the WWE Network.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Jul 5, 2018 18:34:52 GMT -6
NOAH on the Network, especially the archives, could be great.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 8:53:03 GMT -6
Some of the names for these events just don't fit anymore. I would like them to bring back some old names or create new ones.
My suggestions:
Jan: Royal Rumble Feb: In Your House: No Way Out March: Fast Lane April: WrestleMania May: Backlash June: MITB July: Great American Bash August: Summerslam Sept: Clash of Champions Oct: Halloween Havoc Nov: Survivor Series Dec: Starrcade
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Jul 13, 2018 18:19:12 GMT -6
Watched Something Else to Wrestle With for the first time since maybe week 2.
Season finale about CM Punk. Some cool footage of Punk and Cabana from OVW, as well as Reckless Youth in a tryout match.
Cool stuff.
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Post by randomone on Jul 18, 2018 15:49:32 GMT -6
During this re-watch of 2000 (now in 2001), I've realized one thing, Lita was so unbelievably overrated as a wrestler. As a character, sure, 100% she was great with the Hardys, but I'm watching matches with her & Molly, Jackie, Ivory and granted it doesn't get time at all, but she's so sloppy & bad.
I think at the time we were all distracted by her pants that we didn't care about the actual wrestling. I know it'll get a little better as the years go on in terms of match quality, but we're still in the T&A portion of the Attitude Era, so I shouldn't be surprised.
Anyone else think that though, Lita is super overrated as a wrestler?
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Post by All Drop In on Jul 18, 2018 16:02:37 GMT -6
I was 21/22 and way more focused on her pants instead of technical aspects of her work.
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Post by randomone on Jul 18, 2018 16:18:34 GMT -6
I was 14-15 at the time & was the same way, but watching now, her pants are still delightful don't get me wrong, but the actual wrestling was really bad.
She was a good character, but an overrated wrestler.
Unrelated note, I just watched an episode where Big Show pinned Essa Rios in a Hardcore match clusterfuck by picking him up in a bodyslam position & pinning him against a wall horizontally. WTF???
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Post by All Drop In on Jul 23, 2018 21:47:03 GMT -6
I love these Table for 3 deals so much. I just hope they do something with the unreleased footage one day.
It's so crazy to hear Flair talk about the Brody and Lex deal in the cage before he joined the NWA and Sting has no idea what he's talking about.
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Post by All Drop In on Jul 23, 2018 21:59:52 GMT -6
After Table for 3, they showed Rock's first road dark match against Candido. Certainly footage I've never seen. Crazy.
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Post by randomone on Jul 26, 2018 9:48:09 GMT -6
Watching the RAW from May 31st 1999. I was at this show as a 12 year old.
The one and only appearance of Beaver Cleavage. Yeah, that's the history my town brings to wrestling, haha. Triple H debuted on TV in my hometown at a taping in 95 and also...Beaver Cleavage in 99.
I blame Bruce for that one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 10:58:35 GMT -6
Watching Jan '00 episodes of Raw, SD, Nitro, and ECW... man was WCW bad. Y2J way over as a face. Daphne, Stephanie, and Torrie Wilson? Roll F'ing Tide
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Post by randomone on Jul 29, 2018 15:08:44 GMT -6
I just watched a hardcore match with Bob Holly vs Bart Gunn. February 99. They fought to the top of the stage and randomly there was a watermelon, crate of bananas and bag of flour up there just sitting.
Holly won after Steve Williams came out dressed in a kabuki outfit (we never found out why, just fucking random) and tossed Gun off the stage.
Attitude Era, bro
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 19:36:46 GMT -6
This Malenko angle on Slamboree 98 was absolutely outstanding.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Jul 30, 2018 11:56:52 GMT -6
I just watched a hardcore match with Bob Holly vs Bart Gunn. February 99. They fought to the top of the stage and randomly there was a watermelon, crate of bananas and bag of flour up there just sitting. Holly won after Steve Williams came out dressed in a kabuki outfit (we never found out why, just fucking random) and tossed Gun off the stage. Attitude Era, bro I hate about 97.8% of Vince Russo's contributions to wrestling. You just outlined a reason. The only thing that separates 98-99 WWF from 2000 WCW is the talent. The writing was just atrocious in either case, but the WWF had guys who were talented enough to outperform Russo's mind-numbingly shitty stories.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 21:24:58 GMT -6
Holy shit Bischoff is drunk on this table for 3. His eyes, his drunk laugh is in full effect. Surprised about some of the things they are talking about.
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Post by All Drop In on Jul 30, 2018 21:29:24 GMT -6
Holy shit Bischoff is drunk on this table for 3. His eyes, his drunk laugh is in full effect. Surprised about some of the things they are talking about. Bruce confirmed they were hammered. Did a live Prichard Show before it.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Jul 30, 2018 22:33:29 GMT -6
Holy shit Bischoff is drunk on this table for 3. His eyes, his drunk laugh is in full effect. Surprised about some of the things they are talking about. Bruce confirmed they were hammered. Did a live Prichard Show before it. Eric talked about being drunk too. Hilarious.
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Post by randomone on Aug 6, 2018 10:38:02 GMT -6
Watched RAW from August 10th 1998, the build to Summerslam. There were 18 minutes of wrestling on this whole show and 16 of those were from the main event. Meaning TWO MINUTES of wrestling were prior to that.
-Luna vs Jacqueline went those 2 minutes -Droz vs Savio and JBL vs Mero were both Brawl For Alls -Vader took the hos instead of wrestling Godfather
Granted the main event was pretty strong Austin & Taker vs Kane & Foley vs The Outlaws vs Rock & D'Lo
This show had Russo written all over it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 22:18:40 GMT -6
I’ve continued watching the Nitro run from the August 9 Nitro that Conrad and Bischoff covered. The next week the crowd was white hot again for the main event. The next week, the crowd was white hot yet again. I have no recollection of this. They had something here but needed to understand the flame would burn out quickly on the Hogan heat. They needed to get that heat transferred to a younger guy. In my opinion, a Goldberg heel turn on yellow and red Hogan would have been a far better use of a Goldberg heel turn.
Other thoughts, I also do not remember that other music for Goldberg. Boy that’s terrible. Change his music on a heel turn, not as a face. So bad.
The wrestling has been pretty terrible but the entertainment has been outstanding. In my opinion there is still a window here to right some ships. Of course we know behind the scenes it’s getting at its worst.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 23:15:15 GMT -6
This Hogan angle ends with him being told by Vince Russo behind the scenes to go home. There’s no pay off with the yellow and red other than Sting’s heel turn which was fine. Hogan’s last match of 1999 is him tag teaming with Ric Flair for the first time ever (profile pic). Missed opportunity to give someone else a rub or put someone else over. Surprisingly the crowd was hot during the entire Hogan run. Additionally I’m seeing a very engaged WCW crowd with all the top stars still. Maybe TV was down but people that paid to see WCW in 1999 seemed to be having a blast.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 9:00:13 GMT -6
I have "American Made" in my head at work this morning. I have no one to blame but myself.
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Post by All Drop In on Aug 9, 2018 9:49:42 GMT -6
I'm with you about having zero recollection of this time period. I think all of my wrestling resources were put into WWF at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 12:04:54 GMT -6
I can't get over how crazy the live crowds were for this short yellow and red run.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 18:54:29 GMT -6
I'm with you about having zero recollection of this time period. I think all of my wrestling resources were put into WWF at the time. Same with me. I started watching WCW around April/May '00 (Storm, Awesome debuts, Russo & Bischoff returns). I'm watching every Raw/Nitro/Smackdown/ECW/PPV from 2000 to see if I missed anything interesting outside of WWF.
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Post by randomone on Sept 25, 2018 12:23:23 GMT -6
Photo Shoot with Scott Hall was really good. Some great old clips.
He talks about a lot of stuff. Loved the brief Fake Razor talk. Didn't know he's never met him.
26 minutes. Give it a watch.
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Post by All Drop In on Sept 25, 2018 15:53:01 GMT -6
Photo Shoot with Scott Hall was really good. Some great old clips. He talks about a lot of stuff. Loved the brief Fake Razor talk. Didn't know he's never met him. 26 minutes. Give it a watch. Wow. This was great. "Go be a star."
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Post by randomone on Oct 2, 2018 13:08:58 GMT -6
Table for 3MB was pretty good
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Post by randomone on Oct 13, 2018 14:57:11 GMT -6
Don't know how, but I've never seen the War Games from 92 in full until just now. WrestleWar 92, Dangerous Alliance vs Stings Squadron.
That's the best War Games ever. It's so fucking stacked. And damn near everyone is bleeding buckets.
Rude, Eaton, Zbyszko, Austin & Arn vs Sting, Nikita, Dustin, Steamboat & Windham. Plus Madusa and Paul E on the floor.
Watch it if you haven't in a long time. Or if you hadn't seen it in full like me.
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Post by All Drop In on Oct 13, 2018 15:10:41 GMT -6
Don't know how, but I've never seen the War Games from 92 in full until just now. WrestleWar 92, Dangerous Alliance vs Stings Squadron. That's the best War Games ever. It's so fucking stacked. And damn near everyone is bleeding buckets. Rude, Eaton, Zbyszko, Austin & Arn vs Sting, Nikita, Dustin, Steamboat & Windham. Plus Madusa and Paul E on the floor. Watch it if you haven't in a long time. Or if you hadn't seen it in full like me. It's an underrated time in WCW. Some of the Watts influence was the shits. But stuff like this was great.
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