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Post by Coast2Coast on Sept 16, 2015 10:27:55 GMT -6
Unbelievable. Classic racism and fear mongering from teacher to principal to law enforcement. And then double down on the mistake. This will not end well for the school or the police.
Yes, this is a fun thread and I'm sure we will see and hear many more examples of WTF Texas. Texas bashing is a popular sport and I'm right there with it. Hell I started this thread! But I also know that even with the negatives of Texas, and there are many -- Illinois is a much worse state to live in, overall.
But that would be a different thread, wouldn't it.
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Post by Danny Busch on Sept 16, 2015 10:29:54 GMT -6
Have you attended a high school football game yet?
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Post by Coast2Coast on Sept 16, 2015 10:40:38 GMT -6
I live southeast of Austin, in Bastrop County. Four years ago this month a devastating wild fire in Bastrop State Park about 10 miles away took more than 1,600 homes. Though there was rain in May, and we get an occasional five minute storm, everything is very dry and there is a "burn ban" in effect. But all kinds of things can start wildfires here. An ember rising from an uncovered charcoal grill, or even a spark from a weed eater...like this fire in my neighborhood yesterday that began when a guy was whacking weeds under his fence. A spark on a rock started this wildfire. www.phantomprod.com/sc150915GrassFire.movGuess it's a good reminder to be prepared. I have long hoses at every water faucet outside, but maybe I should do more. I have a water pump from when my basement in Chicago leaked during heavy rains. I think I will position that near my pool with a long hose in case I ever need to spring into action quickly.
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Post by Coast2Coast on Sept 16, 2015 10:49:58 GMT -6
No Kesha. Haven't gotten to a HS football game yet.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 16, 2015 10:55:33 GMT -6
Unbelievable. Classic racism and fear mongering from teacher to principal to law enforcement. And then double down on the mistake. This will not end well for the school or the police. Yes, this is a fun thread and I'm sure we will see and hear many more examples of WTF Texas. Texas bashing is a popular sport and I'm right there with it. Hell I started this thread! But I also know that even with the negatives of Texas, and there are many -- Illinois is a much worse state to live in, overall. But that would be a different thread, wouldn't it. Yeah it was going to go in the Stuff that Sucks thread until i realized it was about Texas.
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Post by All Drop In on Sept 16, 2015 11:00:20 GMT -6
No Kesha. Haven't gotten to a HS football game yet. I believe you start receiving fines or possible imprisonment at a certain point. I'd look into it.
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Post by Positivity KS on Sept 16, 2015 15:44:57 GMT -6
I hate to say it but it does look more like a bomb than a clock. That said, I still don't know how it escalated to the point it got to.
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Post by Danny Busch on Sept 16, 2015 16:02:34 GMT -6
So its a clock that is supposed to look like a bomb? I made a clock when I was a kid. It was a block of wood....not a briefcase. Maybe he can give it to sheamus once he arms it.
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Post by Hawg Ass on Sept 16, 2015 17:39:16 GMT -6
So its a clock that is supposed to look like a bomb? I made a clock when I was a kid. It was a block of wood....not a briefcase. Maybe he can give it to sheamus once he arms it. Yes this is the world we live in, there is somebody designing something probably just like it. I don't blame the teacher.
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Post by jackref on Sept 16, 2015 18:51:41 GMT -6
So its a clock that is supposed to look like a bomb? I made a clock when I was a kid. It was a block of wood....not a briefcase. Maybe he can give it to sheamus once he arms it. Yes this is the world we live in, there is somebody designing something probably just like it. I don't blame the teacher. What? Why the fuck would you assume it is a bomb when the kid says it is a clock? It is a creative project he was working on. Wish more kids showed the interest and aptitude for it. Maybe if the teacher had a dialogue with him asked some questions and showed an interest it could have been avoided. Instead the racist piece of shit gets a 14 year old kid arrested because of fear mongering. Ignorance - stop hiding behind it.
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Post by Danny Busch on Sept 16, 2015 20:19:52 GMT -6
Dude....if he brings that to an airport are they going to say nice clock and let him walk on to the plane with it? I think he was being a smart ass with his project by making it look kind of like a fake bomb clock. If billy bob instead of utpal bob brings that to class I would think they would do the same thing.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 16, 2015 20:29:46 GMT -6
Jackref making sense while the Wisconsinites are mad at the kid for being smarter than them!
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 16, 2015 20:31:33 GMT -6
Dude....if he brings that to an airport are they going to say nice clock and let him walk on to the plane with it? I think he was being a smart ass with his project by making it look kind of like a fake bomb clock. If billy bob instead of utpal bob brings that to class I would think they would do the same thing. But he didn't. He brought it to school. To show his teacher. And perhaps once it is evaluated and determined to indeed be a clock, you don't arrest the kid.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 16, 2015 20:34:02 GMT -6
I guess things like creative learning and electrical work should be left to those "other" countries.
Let's just keep stifling the learning process here to turn out as many brainless drones as possible.
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Post by Danny Busch on Sept 16, 2015 20:35:05 GMT -6
oh giving me a fucking break. I'm not doing this shit.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 16, 2015 20:37:32 GMT -6
Racist.
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Post by Coast2Coast on Sept 16, 2015 20:45:04 GMT -6
The kid is really into science. He was proud of what he did and wanted to show his teacher. And this is his reward for his pride.
Well, he is getting another reward. He has received an invitation to go see the President for some kind of Science award thing. And the CEO of Facebook invited him out. At least a few people in this world still value kids with a zest for science.
But we can't be surprised by this stuff. Many people in Texas (and other states) hate Muslims, see ordinary people that look different than they do as terrorists or leaches, and many deny science when it doesn't fit their political worldview. The kid unintentionally lit the fuse of their hot buttons.
I don't believe for a second that in Texas if this was a Christian white kid who did this in his school that it would result in an arrest once they realized it was only a clock. Not a chance.
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Post by Positivity KS on Sept 16, 2015 20:51:02 GMT -6
I just still don't understand the escalation. Yes, I do think it looks much more like a bomb than a clock. But did he show the teacher and the teacher wigged out and called 911 or something? How did the teacher not figure things out just by talking to the kid?
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Post by All Drop In on Sept 16, 2015 20:51:46 GMT -6
Given the chance, the clock could have been right at least twice that day. Perhaps it should get a leadership position.
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Post by Hawg Ass on Sept 17, 2015 11:00:08 GMT -6
I think in the bullshit world we live in, that any kid that brought that in would have issues.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 17, 2015 12:28:40 GMT -6
I think in the bullshit world we live in, that any kid that brought that in would have issues. 7 Kids Not Named Mohamed Who Brought Homemade Clocks to School And Didn't Get Arrested Andy Cush 9/16/15 12:10pm Hoping to impress the teachers at his new school, an Irving, Texas, high school freshman named Ahmed Mohamed brought a homemade clock with him to MacArthur High Monday morning, which he’d assembled before bed the night before. When he showed it to those teachers, though, they were something other than impressed, and by Monday afternoon, Mohamed was being led out of school in handcuffs. Ahmed’s English teacher believed the device was a bomb. Why? Could it have something to do with Ahmed Mohamed’s name, or the color of his skin? His father thinks so. “He just wants to invent good things for mankind,” Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed told the Dallas Morning News. “But because his name is Mohamed and because of Sept. 11, I think my son got mistreated.” Mohamed’s father might be right. Below are seven students, not named Mohamed, who got off scot-free for the heinous crime of DIY timekeeping, plus a bonus kid who brought an actual inert bomb to school and wasn’t suspended. (Mohamed got three days.) Peter Mathis of Wilmington, North Carolina
Another student who likes clocks made a clock of his own. Peter Mattis of Gregory elementary wanted to make a clock more complex than a sundial, so he made his own liquid clock.
The clock drips green fluid into a container to mark the hour. And while Peter doesn’t use the clock to tell time at home because it tells time by hours instead of minutes, he can think of one situation where the clock would come in handy: a hurricane.
—Wilmington Morning Star, March 10, 1999 Haley Zinke and Tasha Williams of Turtle Lake, North Dakota
Haley Zinke and Tasha Williams researched whether or not water clocks kept accurate time. They built their own clock for the project and demonstration.
—McLean County Journal, May 22, 2014 Logan Weimer of Holland, Ohio
During the Holloway Elementary School science fair last week, kids crowded around Logan’s exhibit as he explained how he used veggie power to keep track of time.
“I tried to get an alarm clock to come on with no batteries,” Logan explained, pointing to copper wires and chunks of potato and lemons. Citric acid in the lemon kept the clock working for hours, but the potato “spuddered” out rather quickly.
However, he said he was really happy with his experiment because “if the power goes out, I will get to school on time.”
—Toledo Blade, March 22, 2007 Indy Brumbraugh and Cesar Limas also worked together on their “Clock-o-matic,” an alarm clock that squirts water on those not-so-early risers.
“I wake up late and my mom and dad wake up late, so I was thinking of an idea to wake them up early,” Cesar said.
—St. Petersburg Times, December 15, 1999 Tori Clark of Ellis, Kansas
“I didn’t know anything about building,” said senior Tori Clark, the only girl in the class of 14. “I built a clock in (Carroll’s) industrial tech class last year, and he’s a good teacher so I decided to try this.”
It was a good decision, Clark said.
“My dad said he wishes he would have had something like this when he was in school,” she said.
—Hays Daily News, December 5, 2010 Plus, here’s an anonymous kid in Kiowa, Colorado who brought an actual inert bomb and wasn’t suspended (his teacher was) A high school student’s science project was meant to demonstrate how heat is involved in transferring energy. But because the project was an inert bomb, the student and his teacher are taking some heat of their own. The bomb, made with fertilizer and diesel in a test tube, was displayed last week at a science fair with traditional experiments when an anonymous caller alerted the authorities. The bomb was made with the approval of the 17-year-old student’s teacher. ... The student, whose name officials refused to release, remains in school and will not be disciplined by the school, because he had his teacher’s approval for the project. —New York Times, January 18, 2002gawker.com/7-kids-not-named-mohamed-who-brought-homemade-clocks-to-1730999866?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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Post by Hawg Ass on Sept 17, 2015 12:38:14 GMT -6
Great!!!!!
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Post by Coast2Coast on Sept 17, 2015 13:15:47 GMT -6
Good evidence there, Speeps. Good to know that some schools and teachers actually do have common sense when it comes to some things and some kids and that this kind of behavior from a teacher, principal and law enforcement is not common. None of those stories were from Texas though. But I suspect there are plenty of stories of white kids in Texas building all kinds of science project kinds of things with very different outcomes. We just won't hear about them because it's not news when nothing bad happens to them.
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Post by All Drop In on Sept 17, 2015 19:38:16 GMT -6
Since there's a big multicultural elephant in the room, does Speeps really think Kesha is a racist?
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Post by jackref on Sept 17, 2015 19:43:45 GMT -6
I don't think so. Just that the notion this wasn't race/religion related is absurd. As absurd as comparing a school to an airport and what you can bring to each.
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Post by All Drop In on Sept 17, 2015 19:50:32 GMT -6
I don't think so. Just that the notion this wasn't race/religion related is absurd. As absurd as comparing a school to an airport and what you can bring to each. I could definitely see this topic explode here. Sometimes people get upset when I don't have an early opinion. I like to collect facts and figure out what actually happened. This was a deal where the kid was talking about ISIS before bringing a "clock" to school if I went in hard. But that's not the case. I'd love to believe a kid named Billy, maybe with a Bob after it, would be treated the same. But there's not a fucking chance. I'm not perfect. I profile everyone, including white people. But I think this situation is pretty clear.
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Post by Positivity KS on Sept 17, 2015 19:50:38 GMT -6
I don't think so. Just that the notion this wasn't race/religion related is absurd. As absurd as comparing a school to an airport and what you can bring to each. I'm not convinced it was race/religion related at all. My gut tells me it very well could've been but I'm certainly not convinced. I think it was more "Bomb-related." It looked like a fricken bomb. Or at the very least, it certainly didn't look like a clock. However the escalation to the point of being handcuffed is preposterous. I'm just not sure if the escalation was race, religion or bomb related. Either way, it was handled incredibly poorly.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 17, 2015 20:30:45 GMT -6
Since there's a big multicultural elephant in the room, does Speeps really think Kesha is a racist? Not at all.
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Post by All Drop In on Sept 17, 2015 20:33:44 GMT -6
Since there's a big multicultural elephant in the room, does Speeps really think Kesha is a racist? Not at all. There's the answer.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 17, 2015 20:43:58 GMT -6
Although he is a Packers fan...
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