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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2015 16:29:41 GMT -6
Alright, so I was trying to think of a way to possibly make the Survivor Series worth looking forward to as it's become just another PPV to the WWE & nothing is really special about it anymore.
Over the course of the next few months, I'll first list from worst to best the 29 WWE/World title matches & why I chose them (maybe 10 at a time). Then comes the doozy, listing from worst to best EVERY Survivor Series team (146 to be exact) (so maybe 20 at a time). It'll conclude hopefully around the time the actual Survivor Series happens, so it'll all work out.
The reason I'm doing this (aside from boredom of WWE's presentation of the event) so far in advance is it gives you guys time to make YOUR OWN list if you want. Make your own, critique mine, do whatever. Just a way to make it interesting. (and spoiler, the women teams, minus a few, will be in the bottom of the list, so the bottom 20 of that list will be rough as hell) I'm ranking the teams on this criteria (talent involved, relevancy, teamwork, how much I enjoyed the team). So there you have it, I'll get going on the World title matches & post the bottom 10 in a day or two. Let me know what you think & enjoy!
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Post by November KS on Sept 2, 2015 18:16:54 GMT -6
Very much looking forward to this. Thanks for doing it!
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 2, 2015 20:21:37 GMT -6
It's awesome and not a competition! I'm in!
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 2, 2015 20:25:36 GMT -6
This will take some research.
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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2015 20:38:02 GMT -6
Absolutely nothing on TV tonight, so figured I'd get going on the World/WWE Title matches. There are 29 Title matches over the history of the Survivor Series. I'm doing both Raw/SD or WWE/World whatever you want to call them, so here we go starting with #29 (next 10 will be posted whenever).... 29. Sheamus vs Big Show (2012) This match happened 3 years ago, I have no recollection of it happening, I don’t even remember Big Show being World Champion. This was the 2nd of 3 straight PPVs these guys fought for the World Title for (3rd being a Chairs match next month at TLC) and it ended in a DQ win for Show, who I had no clue was even the face in this fight. Hell, I had no clue Sheamus was heel during this time either. When your title reign, who is face/heel and finally the match itself you don't remember a damn thing about, you know where I'm ranking it. Incredibly forgettable, thus why it gets the bottom of the barrel.
28. Kane vs Edge (2010) Coming off of a feud where he absolutely dominated The Undertaker, which included Hell in a Cell & Buried Alive matches, Kane, in what will no doubt be the biggest run in his career, fought The Rated R Superstar to a draw. Kane & Paul Bearer were incredibly entertaining....up to this point. It was the odd period where Edge was a face on Smackdown, but he kidnapped Paul Bearer & made Kane look like a complete bitch begging for his father back. It got even worse the month after where Edge threw dummies down the stairs, ran over with cars, etc. The sheer ridiculousness of the feud made me rank it this low.
27. Big Show vs Mark Henry (2011) Speaking of biggest runs of his career, Mark Henry’s title run in 2011 was actually pretty damn entertaining. It unfortunately seemed like only a matter of time before he got hurt again (which was the case eventually), but his matches were solid, except this one. While the match wasn’t that great, the build was good, Henry was laying everyone out with chairs & Show got his revenge, Pillman-izing Henry's ankle with a chair. Despite another DQ finish, it was at least decent storytelling. And Big Show hit a top rope elbow drop, so that’s not bad.
26. Goldberg vs Triple H (2003) Goldberg’s WWE run was shaky at best. He should’ve won the title in the Chamber at Summerslam when he was still super over and had Trips chase him, but this was during the heyday of Triple H’s 2-3 year burial run of any & everyone in sight. While Goldberg won the title at Unforgiven, it wasn’t as memorable as it could be. This match was completely forgettable, despite the Lose or Your Fired stip, as the next month Trips would regain the title & Goldberg (and his reign) would quickly become an afterthought. Not even Goldberg could overcome Evolution.
25. Big Show vs Brock Lesnar (2002) The historical significance of Paul Heyman turning on Brock Lesnar was pretty cool. However Big Show was about a month removed from main event Sunday Night Heats when he came over to Smackdown & tossed Brock off the stage. It was weird seeing Brock get dominated by someone who hadn't been relevant for nearly 2 years. The match itself went barely 4 minutes, which bummed me out, but I'm fairly confident Brock was hurt, which explains it (still though, he F-5'd Show, amazing at the time). For the time, I had little faith in Show being a main event guy again this quickly, especially against a beast who had ran through everyone in his path. Very cool seeing Paul turn, but at the time, odd choice for it being Show, though I understood it.
24. Randy Orton vs Wade Barrett (2010) There wasn’t a group with more potential then the Nexus. I always wonder what could’ve been had these guys not lost to Super Cena (and his team) at Summerslam. They absolutely should’ve gone over there as it would’ve made matches like this more interesting. This was 2 months (2 MONTHS!!) in to Cena being part of Nexus & this would ultimately get him “fired” as it was so completely hokey & unbelievable. The match itself I enjoyed, other than that, nothing much to say about it. Yeah, they were going to fire their #1 guy. Dumb.
23. John Cena vs Alberto Del Rio (2013) A month earlier, Alberto Del Rio was enjoying a pretty decent title run, after his heel turn with Ziggler, he was back to being the cocky aristocrat we learned to hate when he first debuted. Cena, who was out of action with an elbow injury, came in & just won the title at Hell in a Cell, that’s it! Nothing to build off of at all. Why not let Del Rio weasel his way out & build to Cena winning during THIS match? The match itself was fine, but Cena beating Del Rio for the second straight month, went to bury him even further. No reason Cena had to win at HIAC, had he won here, I'd rank it higher.
22. Booker T vs Batista (2006) Call me crazy, but I really enjoyed the King Booker character as champion. I also enjoyed this feud, mainly due to the fact that they both got into a real life fist fight earlier that year. Who came out on top has been in question as I’ve heard stories of both ways (Finlay has a shoot interview where he said Batista came out on top, where other (many of the other reports) said it was Booker who won it). Regardless, it led to decent matches & a good storyline where this was Batista’s last chance. He had to jump through hoops for months, but ultimately ended Booker’s fun title reign.
21. Edge vs Triple H vs Vladimir Kozlov (2008) Remember Kozlov? Remember when he was an actual over heel? Remember that week? I’m fairly confident this was around that week. He was a complete animal when he was first on Smackdown, no one could stop him. Could he talk, of course not, but he didn’t need to. This was before he became a joke & I liked him. Edge replaced Jeff Hardy who was “hurt” (we learn thanks to Matt Hardy) last second & continued his sneaky, slimy ways to get a World title by any means necessary. Decent storytelling, good match.
20. CM Punk vs Alberto Del Rio (2011) If the “Summer of Punk” was awesome, the “Fall of Punk” was disastrous. After Summerslam, Del Rio enjoyed the title/cash in a few weeks before, of course, John Cena, the guy who couldn’t beat Punk in the first place, wins the title back. Meanwhile Punk falls into an incredibly screwy feud with Triple H, loses a match to him & tags with him to face Truth/Miz over the next few months. It’s baffling to see a guy who was that over to be that wasted that quickly. Still the most over guy in the company at the time, Punk wins the title back here, leading to an amazing run. Match was fine, but if Del Rio could’ve had a solid few months with the title, it would’ve been more interesting.
19 through 10 coming soon. The teams are going to be an absolute bitch, but it should be fun!
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Post by randomone on Sept 5, 2015 11:36:46 GMT -6
Here we go, #19-#10, I wanted to get the World/WWE title rankings out of the way super early & then really focus on the team rankings because it'll take such a long time, #9-#1 should be coming by Monday, then I'll start ranking the teams. Ugh, sounds like a pain in the ass looking at the list, but it'll be a fun nostalgic trip, anyways enjoy!......
19. Randy Orton vs Big Show (2013) How the hell was a Big Show match from 2013 this high on the list? It’s because Big Show shockingly was the most over he had been in at least 10 years. The feud between he & The Authority was silly with Steph pretty much punking him out, making him cry on live TV, but as soon as he punched Trips in the face, everything changed. Orton was a fine (if forgettable) champ at the time & if Show was going to have a 1-2 month reign, this was it. Sadly it didn’t happen (shocked I’m saying that) and instead Cena steals the spotlight facing off with Orton to end the show, leaving Big Show a complete afterthought again & tumbles back down the card next month.
18. Hulk Hogan vs The Undertaker (1991) I really do think I would’ve ranked this higher had this entire PPV not been one giant commercial for This Tuesday in Texas. I just re-watched this match & it wasn’t good at all. This was a memorable moment in Hogan finally being defeated by the unbeaten Undertaker, but, less than a week later, we’d see Hogan regain the title. The tombstone on the chair missed by a mile, Hogan sold it like death & the heartbroken fan dressed as Hogan in the front row was amazing.
17. The Undertaker vs Kurt Angle (2000) When you think of these two facing off, you might think that it should be ranked higher, but while the ending was incredibly clever (the swap with Kurt’s brother Eric), the match itself wasn’t that good. Come to think of it, I didn't really care for any of the Undertaker's matches in his American Badass gimmick (aside from Mania vs Triple H at WM17). I started to really dig the Red Devil heel turn at the end of 2001. It sucks when the only thing I truly remember about the beginning of this biker run was Fred Durst & his crappy band. This was match was during the time where Undertaker looked ridiculously out of shape too, while on the other hand, Kurt was really in his groove during his 1st title run.
16. The Undertaker vs Chris Jericho vs Big Show (2009) You'd think the older Taker would get, the lower his matches were ranked, but it's the opposite, I enjoyed his matches more. This was during the period where Jericho was invincible, he was having easily the best run of his career IMO and anything & everyone he was associated with I was entertained by as well. Case in point, Jeri-Show I really liked as a team, the mouth on Jericho, the muscle in Show, it all clicked. Coming in with a huge disadvantage, I liked the teamwork on Taker for most of the match, but ultimately leading to the fallout with the champ taking advantage. Also responsible for the great line from Jericho the fan who told him to go back to Calgary, “I’m from Winnipeg you idiot!”
15.The Rock vs Triple H vs Big Show (1999) The historic Triple Threat match that never was, as the “Who Ran Over Austin?” caper began on this night. Austin, leaving for neck surgery, gets ran over by a car, thus changing the main event, adding Big Show in his place. While I understood the change, it was still disappointing to me. However, you have the story of Big Show coming off demolishing his opposition (and his own team too) earlier in the night, then go on to shockingly win the title, I’ll admit, I didn’t see it coming. I’m still annoyed about the Austin thing because it was revealed as Rikishi who ran him over, but Rikishi hadn’t even re-debuted with his new gimmick yet. Made absolutely no sense. The match itself was decent, but we’d see Show’s title reign was nothing more than filler for what was to come early 2000.
14.CM Punk vs John Cena vs Ryback (2012) Around a year into his title reign, the now full blown heel Punk faced a pretty tough test in Cena & relative newbie Ryback. It seemed like the odds were stacked against Punk & his reign would finally come to an end. However after a pretty good match (Punk was on fire at this point, Cena was Cena & Ryback was alright in the main event, he was super over), we get the debut of The Shield, a monumental moment in WWE history. Not just because it was a new group, not just because it had Tyler Black & Jon Moxley, but because all 3 Shield members were then elevated into being stars, not jokes like the last group to make an impact (Nexus). In one night you had what looked like soldiers for Punk show up & immediately were inserted into the main event picture & all things considered, they’ve never really left.
13.JBL vs Booker T (2004) I really think had I not watched this match recently I wouldn’t have ranked it this high. I had no recollection just how over Booker was with the fans during this time, as he was fresh off a heel run & his Best of 5 series with Cena for the US title. Like him or not, but JBL was having a pretty strong title run, just finding any & every way to come out with the victory & title still intact, you couldn’t help but hate him. I liked how they had Booker defeat JBL’s top lackey Orlando Jordan a few times before the show, because had he beaten JBL himself multiple times, it would’ve been more predictable JBL would win, but it wasn’t as predictable as one would think. I really enjoyed this match that ends with JBL shenanigans to once again retain.
12. John Cena vs Kurt Angle (2005) I always enjoyed whenever Angle & Cena wrestled each other on Smackdown over the 2003-2004 time period, Cena was the cocky youngster & Angle was always on top of his game. With both guys now on Raw, both guys were in the middle of a rather entertaining feud. Eric Bischoff wanted the title off Cena & when Chris Jericho couldn’t get it done, it was Angle who was next in line. Cena was on fire around this time as champ, his first year with the belt & he had some fantastic matches & a lot of that had to do with who he worked with. Jericho, Angle, Michaels, he improved immensely & it showed in this one. Despite the silly ref stipulation & the odd pairing of Daiviari & Angle, I still liked the match & enjoyed Cena’s first run as champ.
11. Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels (1997) Seems pretty low right, but this match is memorable for 1 thing & 1 thing only, the screwjob. Aside from that, this was a wild brawl, which really was something entertaining & different for these two, but with the amount of hatred between them, it felt right. I really think had this been anywhere in the US, it wouldn’t have been such an anarchy feel to it. Michaels was like Cena in the Manhattan Center, he was going into enemy territory & you almost felt, especially around this time, that someone in the crowd could really hop the rail & try something. Match was a brutal fight, but aside from that, it’s the finish & finish alone that people remember. I always thought it was a dick move by Bret to not lose as he knew he was leaving, but without this moment, we would never have gotten the Vince character & quite possibly the Attitude Era would be totally different.
10. Bret Hart vs Bob Backlund (1994) I remember a few years ago there was a YouTube page that would upload & edit WWF feuds into these compilation videos that I thought was great (was bummed when it got suspended & taken down), but the Bret/Backlund feud was one of those videos. Re-watching the promos, interviews, it was great to see Backlund switch into this mad man. It seemed like a really odd choice for Backlund to get another title run, but Owen Hart at ringside was the key to why I enjoyed this so much. The match itself is incredibly hard hitting & some might not enjoy it, but I did. Owen crying to Helen to throw the towel in for Bret was so over the top it borders on Oscar worthy. Only part I didn’t like was Bulldog chased Owen around the ring, somehow tripped & knocked himself out, making him look like a total idiot. Bret could have a good match with anyone & despite my skeptics, this was no different. Entertaining all around really.
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Post by randomone on Sept 8, 2015 14:40:48 GMT -6
#9-#1 of what I think is the best World/WWE title matches in Survivor Series history. Agree or disagree, let me know, this was fun putting together this list, but the next one should be even better. I'll start ranking 20 at a time. I have 2 months to get this done, so it should all work out. Remember, bottom 20 are mostly women & get ready for a clusterfuck with those rankings. Anyways, hope you like it, cures the boredom Raw & Smackdown bring each week.
9. The Rock vs Mankind (1998) The kickoff to one of the greatest feuds of all time happened on this night as Mankind & The Rock’s first of many matches in their rivalry was in the finals of the Deadly Game tournament. This is arguably the best one night tournament the WWE has ever booked & the ending was great because it laid out the landscape of The Rock becoming one of the best ever as well as Mankind becoming one of the most popular. While the ending, turning Rock heel, while he was so incredibly popular, was fantastic, this was probably my least favorite overall match between the two (Halftime Heat is close) as they’d really hit their stride as the months went on. Everything on this card was booked perfectly, but chalk it up to having to wrestle multiple times over the night or what, but I just didn’t like the actual match. The story, hands down one of the absolute best, but wasn’t a huge fan of the match, thus why I couldn’t rank it higher.
8. Chris Jericho vs John Cena (2008) I didn’t really like the hot potato with the World title at this time between Batista & Jericho, as I didn’t see why Batista needed to win it back from Jericho, only to lose it right back to him on TV. Jericho won the title in the Scramble last second at Unforgiven, lost it to Batista at Cyber Sunday & won it back in the cage on TV, only for Cena to come back from injury a week or two later & win the title from Jericho. While I didn’t hate John Cena at the time, this really soured me on him because I loved heel Jericho, even more so heel champion Jericho. Cena just coming right back in & winning the title didn’t sit well with me. All that said, this match, was friggin’ great, thus why it’s ranked so high. It was truly a fantastic match. Had Jericho stole a win or retained via DQ or countout, probably would’ve ranked it a couple spots higher.
7. Randy Orton vs Shawn Michaels (2007) Shawn couldn’t use Sweet Chin Music & also Orton (who got DQ’d in previous matches) couldn’t get DQ’d or he’d lose the title. The ending was great as after a back & forth, Shawn went for the superkick, hesitated, realizing he’d lose, only for Randy to hit an RKO out of nowhere (before Cole ran it into the ground) to retain the title. It’s weird with Orton, trying to figure out when I started to stop losing interest in his character. I think around 2010, but before then, he was one of the best heels in the business & working with Shawn, the match was fantastic. Just about 20 minutes, these two made good of the stips & didn’t run it into the ground. Definitely recommend re-watching this one.
6. John Cena vs Triple H vs Shawn Michaels (2009) What separated this from the Jeri-Show/Taker triple threat & made me enjoy it so much more, was the start. Bell sounds & immediately HBK lays out Trips with Sweet Chin Music. It was the complete opposite feel of the previous triple threat as this was an every man for himself. Sure Cena would win, but the dynamic alone of Shawn laying out Hunter right away, doing anything to get the title, really set the tone for the match & why I enjoyed it so much. It was a refreshing break from DX & their joking around each week on TV & this is an incredibly underrated little gem, if you haven’t bailed on the Network yet (like I have, I recorded this when WWE 24/7 was still around), highly suggest checking it out.
5. Batista vs The Undertaker (2007) After I decided to rank this match this high, I went back to look at some reviews & it really was a mixed reaction, but I’m in the camp of this being one of the better Cell matches of all time. Both Batista & Taker had great in ring chemistry with one another & with both being faces, the fans were really torn because the Smackdown brand was really synonymous with these two guys & the third guy…..Edge, who would get involved in the end. This was brutal, bloody, hard hitting, not overlong, created perfectly fine big spots by not having to again go outside the cage itself. The finish with Edge as a cameraman destroying Taker & giving Batista the win. Edge had been out of action since I think May or June, so his comeback wasn’t really expected & it led to another title reign the following month. I think Batista was a very underrated champ & feel like this was one of his best performances with a legend like Taker.
4. Shawn Michaels vs Sid (1996) I can’t think of another time where Sid was more over than he was in MSG on this night. Michaels was still in his prime as champ at this time, but I honestly don’t think there has (or ever would be) a louder pop when Sid won the title. Chalk it up to the MSG crowd if you want, but it was a very entertaining match, with two guys who had solid backstory as well. Clocking Jose Lothario in the chest with the camera & Shawn going to attend to him, allowing Sid to attack & win the title was different for the time & I really liked it. Despite not being the best overall match on the card IMO (that goes to Bret vs Austin) this still is one of my all time favorite title matches. Not to mention Shawn did the headstand pictured above.
3. The 1st Ever Elimination Chamber (2002) Back to MSG for the 1st ever & this one remains my favorite (argument could be made for New Years Revolution 05, but the ending is garbage) Chamber match. No one really knew what to expect from this thing, but it looked ridiculous, awesome & unlike anything WWE had ever done up to that point. With the brand split, I wasn’t a big fan of the Raw roster at this time, as we are a month removed from the Katie Vick fiasco, the IC title being removed & Triple H’s death grip on the title. RVD, Chris Jericho & Kane all had ran into the Trips burial over 2002, Booker T would be the following year, but that left 1 man, who had 1 match up to that point since 1998, Shawn Michaels. This match was brutal, violent, it was pretty much go out there & beat the hell out of each other. Despite early eliminations of RVD, Kane & Booker, the ending was fantastic with the elimination of Jericho & the shock victory of HBK winning the world title. Fantastic match, great storytelling & I was legit shocked, because I thought Triple H would just win again.
2. Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels (1992) One year prior, Bret was in the opener (pretty rad opener) & Shawn was just about to toss Marty through the Barber Shop window. However here we are in my all time favorite year in wrestling & these two go out & have a near 30 minute main event. It is one of my all time favorite matches, only thing that I have to complain about it, is that there was no backstory aside from Hart Foundation vs Rockers. Shawn had just beaten Bulldog for the IC title & immediately was placed into the main event. I have no complaints about that, but had this been given more than a few weeks of Sean Mooney/Mean Gene Event Center promos, it probably would’ve been my #1. I have to re-watch their Ironman, but this really could be my favorite Shawn/Bret match they ever had.
1. Diesel vs Bret Hart (1995) I went back & forth between this & the 92 main event, as for me it truly was a tossup between which was the best title match in Survivor Series history, but one reason stood out as to why this was the best, overall storytelling. Bret & Diesel had a rivalry that dated back to KOTR 94, where you had this new kid on the block, Diesel, come in out of nowhere & challenge the champ. It seemed like Diesel wasn’t really ready at that time, but then you cut to Royal Rumble 95 & again they had a very solid match, but again, just filled with interference. There was never a clear cut winner in the feud, which is why this match was so good because it not only gave us a definitive winner in the feud; it also set the stage for the Diesel heel turn & another Bret title run. Bret had been out of the title hunt in stupid feuds almost all of 95 (Lawler/Pierre/Yankem) that it was refreshing to see him challenge Diesel, who, despite holding the title for nearly a year, didn’t really have too many legit challengers (Sid/Tatanka/Mabel). It was a great finish to a fantastic No DQ match, then post match Diesel laying out the refs & hitting two Jackknife Powerbombs on Bret, not to mention they did one of the first broken announce table spots I can remember in the WWF. While Bret/Shawn at 92 was the best in terms of overall wrestling, this one gets the nod at the all time best in terms of storytelling.
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Post by randomone on Sept 12, 2015 10:41:33 GMT -6
Alright, with KS getting his list going, I figured I should get the first part of this list done, easily the worst trip down memory lane possible, as this is the bottom of the barrel, THE 20 WORST Survivor Series teams in history (primarily women's matches). Let's get things going shall we? Trust me, it does get better after these 20.
146. Doink, Dink, Pink, Wink (1994) 145. Jerry Lawler, Queasy, Sleazy, Cheesy (1994) -Only reason I put Lawler’s team ahead was they won, but this match could be the worst match in Survivor Series history. Doink had been a completely forgotten character since about Wrestlemania & all of a sudden the Lawler feud started up again out of nowhere. Doink gets eliminated 10 MINUTES IN and then its Lawler’s shenanigans against the rest. The King scolds his team after taking credit for the win & we get Doink coming down & throwing a pie in Lawler’s face. Awful, just awful. Not to mention I’m fairly confident Wink & Pink are two of the most deranged looking clowns I’ve ever seen.
144. Mae Young, Fabulous Moolah, Tori, Debra (1999) 143. Ivory, Luna, Terri, Jacqueline (1999) Now we get to the Womens matches & some of these are friggin doozies. I think Moolah & Mae were a collective age of 190 during this time & they teamed with Debra, who never wrestled (and couldn’t) & Tori, who barely wrestled at all. Clearly I give the other team the nod, not by much, but Ivory was a great heel & Terri’s slutty character was awesome, but she couldn’t wrestle either. Jackie & Luna were just filler.
142. Natalya, Bella Twins, Naomi, Cameron, Jojo, Eva Marie (2013) 141. AJ Lee, Tamina, Kaitlyn, Alicia Fox, Rosa Mendes, Aksana, Summer Rae (2013) Yes, a team with Eva Marie barely squeaks by & gets ranked higher than two 75 year olds. We all know Moolah & Mae would’ve destroyed her. Despite my dislike of the Bella’s, they, along with one of the best in the world, Natalya, was enough to give this team the extra bump. Naomi has never overly impressed me, Jojo was another one just thrown into the ring with no experience & Cameron, well, she pinned a girl the wrong way. Meanwhile AJ’s team was slightly (albeit very slightly) better as Foxy is good, Kaitlyn could go & the others were at least upgrades over the girls who could barely (or couldn’t at all) wrestle.
140. Sensational Sherri, The Glamour Girls, Donna Christianello, Dawn Marie (1987) No, the ECW & former Mrs. Al Wilson is not actually 60 years old. This Dawn Marie I had never heard of & don’t remember, same for Donna Christianello, no recollection of her, but she does look like that rough aunt who smokes & plays the slots until 4 in the morning at the casino. Glamour Girls were two 50 year olds who were managed by Jimmy Hart, because he managed everyone apparently. Then you have Sherri, who was the only awesome one on this team, but I can’t rank this team any higher.
139. Paige, Cameron, Layla, Summer Rae (2014) 138. Mickie James, Maria, Torrie Wilson, Michelle McCool, Kelly Kelly (2007) 137. Beth Phoenix, Jillian Hall, Melina, Victoria, Layla (2007) 136. Alicia Fox, Emma, Naomi, Natalya (2014) 135. Beth Phoenix, Mickie James, Kelly Kelly, Candice Michelle, Jillian Hall (2008) 134. Mickie James, Kelly Kelly, Melina, Gail Kim, Eve (2009) 133. Michelle McCool, Victoria, Maria, Maryse, Natalya (2008) 132. Michelle McCool, Jillian Hall, Beth Phoenix, Layla, Alicia Fox (2009) All of these 8 previous teams I can’t really talk about individually, because they all get jumbled together, so I’ll just go with the bottom ranked to the top ranked. Paige teamed with Cameron, who sucks, Layla, who for some reason, over time, lost all her ability to put on good matches & Summer who is alright I guess. You go down to the last team here & Lay-Cool (total 180 to where Layla was these past few years) was a fantastic heel duo who both put on solid matches, Beth was great, Jillian was decent & Foxy was still relatively new so I’ll give her a pass. Still though one of the better women’s teams.
131. Fabulous Moolah, Rockin Robin, Velvet McIntyre, The Jumping Bomb Angels (1987) Not as rad as this team though, due to 2 women, The Jumping Bomb Angels. I just wish they didn’t have to feud with the Glamour Girls, who, like I mentioned, were 50 year old women. Rockin Robin was fine, Velvet was good & Moolah could kick anyone’s ass. The Jumping Bomb Angels look completely out of place here in this match due to their style in the ring, but it’s still good enough to get in my Top 3 womens teams (I’ll get to the other 2 later)
130. Big Show, Taka Michinoku, Funaki, Blue Meanie (1999) 129. Big Bossman, Prince Albert, Mideon, Viscera (1999) Only reason Bossman’s team got a spot ahead was that they actually made it to the ring. Big Show laid out his team before he went to the ring. The match lasted 2 minutes, furthered the Show/Bossman story & made Show look like a monster for later in the night.
128. Tensai, Primo, Epico, Darren Young, Titus O’Neil (2012) I am confident they broke out the Royal Rumble tumbler & just picked names from the job guys & send them out there. Now I’ve seen conflicting reports that this match has gone 17 minutes or 27 minutes. Regardless, that’s way too friggin long either way for a Survivor Series elimination match involving these guys. You’ll see the team they faced ranked in the next group, but they didn’t make it much farther. Tensai was a joke, Primo & Epico as well as the PTP were lost in the shuffle. This team was terrible.
127. Nikolai Volkoff, Tito Santana, Bushwhackers (1990) This team was called The Alliance, in which Nikolai Volkoff was the team captain, not former IC & Tag Champion Tito Santana, but Volkoff was team captain, ridiculous. Poor Tito, as you’ll see, gets saddled with some real stinkers for teammates as the years went on. Such a great wrestler, but on a team with 3 dorks like this, I can’t give Chico Santana much more of a bump.
Next 20 should come next week. Through time I'll cut it down to 10 teams, then towards then end I'll post 5 at a time so it'll sync up well with the actual Survivor Series.
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 12, 2015 11:42:18 GMT -6
What randomone's amazingly detailed work has shown me is that more than any other current wrestling event, Survivor Series died for me. I don't think I'd even care if they went back to traditional team matches top to bottom. But this is still so awesome.
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Post by randomone on Sept 12, 2015 11:51:02 GMT -6
Thanks man, a big reason why I'm doing this is, like you said, I've lost complete interest in this PPV, as it used to be my favorite out of the Big 4. I want a full PPV with teams, but it'll never happen. It's just another show to them.
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Post by Bobby Heenan on Sept 12, 2015 12:06:03 GMT -6
140. Sensational Sherri, The Glamour Girls, Donna Christianello, Dawn Marie (1987) No, the ECW & former Mrs. Al Wilson is not actually 60 years old. This Dawn Marie I had never heard of & don’t remember, same for Donna Christianello, no recollection of her, but she does look like that rough aunt who smokes & plays the slots until 4 in the morning at the casino. Glamour Girls were two 50 year olds who were managed by Jimmy Hart, because he managed everyone apparently. Then you have Sherri, who was the only awesome one on this team, but I can’t rank this team any higher.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 12, 2015 12:21:06 GMT -6
randomone doing great work.
I agree with you guys. Survivor Series has no more significance for me now than Night of Champions or an In Your House.
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Post by Bobby Heenan on Sept 12, 2015 12:23:14 GMT -6
Oh, I remember this one. It's already Thanksgiving in Ohio, which I think was a rib on the boys from Vince. People in Ohio don't even want to be in Ohio on Thanksgiving. But this match was a little gem. We lined Jimmy's megaphone with sardines right before he went out for the match. I don't know if he just didn't sell it, but he didn't seem to notice. Donna Christianello was one of the broads that lived with Moolah. So you could take a run at it, but you'd probably end up sleeping with one eye open. I already had to do that while sleeping with a middle aged Italian woman when I'm home. Why take the chance? Now the Glamour Girls were different. They wouldn't double up on you, but you just had to get them apart. I just had Harley tell Judy Martin he had a carton of smokes and a handle of Jack in his room. Mission accomplished. The accommodations at the Akron Ho Jo's weren't the best that night. But I can tell you Lelani Kai's leg submission gimmick wasn't a work. Good lord. I thought my ears were going to look like Paul Boesch's when we were done. But a gentleman never tells, and I'm nothing if not a gentleman. Well, that and I got a call that Ron Bass was whipping some mark in the lobby, and I had already Brain'd all over her. If Ron Bass is working a mark in the lobby of the Akron Ho Jo's with his gimmick, you go down to watch. Can you blame me? It's the only value the guy had. So those are some of my memories of Survivor Series 1987.
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Post by randomone on Sept 19, 2015 11:18:04 GMT -6
Ok, here we go, next batch of teams, thankfully after this we're going from awful to......not bad. So without any further ado, let's get this shit show on the road!
126. Men on a Mission, Bushwhackers (1993) Not really sure what was worse, this team, or the horror as a child seeing Mabel as a 400 pound clown. While this team entirely survived, it’s not saying much. Water balloons, scooters, you name it, the irrelevant Bushwhackers & relatively new Men on a Mission annoyed me more than anything, even as a kid. I realize this was to play mind games by Doink himself, but I hated it. What made it even more terrifying was Oscar, dressed as a clown of course, rapping his way down the aisle. Of course to cutaways of white people dancing awkwardly in the crowd. That was the highlight of this team.
125. Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Sgt. Slaughter, Ron Simmons (2006) I couldn’t rank these guys any higher, yes they are some of the best champions in the history of wrestling, but, this is 2006. Ric Flair, who out of all of them (yes even Dusty) should’ve been wearing the T-shirt while he wrestled, didn’t (sorry Kevin Sullivan). The horror, the horror!! While I love Naitch, the 2002-2008 man boobs were a rough thing to sit through. The fact that their opponents had to lose to this team was embarrassing, we'll get to them later.
124. Flash Funk, Jimmy Snuka, Yokozuna, Savio Vega (1996) There was a rumor that Randy Savage was going to be the mystery man for this team. That would’ve been better than Snuka for sure, but it wasn’t meant to be. Very odd debut for the former 2 Cold Scorpio (with Funkettes) teaming with a now 600 pound Yokozuna, wow & always lost in the shuffle Savio Vega. Throw in the Superly & you have one of the most random teams ever. I had thought Yoko's run was over, he hadn't been on TV since I think Summerslam where he broke the ring against Stone Cold. So I figured he'd either was gone or had been told to go lose weight. Sadly that didn't happen as he was back bigger than ever. It was a tough debut for Flash Funk, who had to team with a decent worker in Savio, an old man in Snuka & a guy who weighed more than his teammates combined.
123. Val Venis, Mark Henry, Steve Blackman, Gangrel (1999) Not nearly as random as this team though. I can’t even begin to wrap my head around what creative was thinking pairing these 4 up (we’ll get to their opponents briefly). I can only assume they thought “get 4 guys who wrestle on Heat & put them together as a team!” Val Venis was coming off a heel run in a feud against Mankind, Steve Blackman was a heel in his feud with Shamrock, Mark Henry was heel in his feud with D'Lo & Gangrel......was still employed. They put them together against 4 other heels. Perhaps even more strange was Venis & Henry survived. I get why Val did, as next month he'd be in the European title picture, but why the hell did Sexual Chocolate need to win? Why they were a team in the first place is the better question.
122. Brodus Clay, Justin Gabriel, Tyson Kidd, Sin Cara, Rey Mysterio (2012) The victorious team in the random thrown together match of 2012. Only reason I gave this a bump was due to Kidd & Gabriel, despite their tag matches happening primarily on Superstars or Main Event, were a pretty rad team for a while there. Sin Cara was still botchy & this was during the 2 month stretch Mysterio was healthy in 2012. Meanwhile you have Brodus, who was apparently the captain of the team, the only person eliminated & eliminated first overall mind you. Poor Funkasaurus, I would say you deserved better, but with that gimmick, not so much.
121. Jake Roberts, Ken Patera, Jim Duggan, Tito Santana, Scott Casey (1988) Again, Tito & his bad teams continue, as despite Jake & Duggan both feuding with Andre, which was very entertaining, they had to deal with creepy Ken Patera who was doing absolutely nothing besides rocking a 50 year old lesbian haircut (not that there’s anything wrong with that) & Scott Casey, jobber to the stars, who was doing even less than Patera! Casey was apparently a replacement for B. Brian Blair, whose Killer Bees partner Jim Brunzell was on a completely different team. There was no one else to use instead of Casey? Jake & Duggan were super popular & this was when Rick Martel was hurt so Strike Force wasn’t a team at the moment, but still, very weak team.
120. Roddy Piper, Jimmy Snuka, & Bushwhackers (1989) I ranked this team higher solely for the fact that Piper sang Them Bones in their backstage segment, only to go out……and completely get outclassed by one of my all time favorite teams (we’ll get to them MUCH later). Piper was fantastic in his role driving Rick Rude nuts, but Snuka & the Bushwhackers had a collective IQ of probably 7. Sorry Hot Rod, you deserved so much better. Looking back all these years later, it is weird seeing Piper & Snuka side by side. These 4 guys were fine brawlers & we'd see in a couple years Piper could really pretty darn well, but I think my admiration of their opponents makes me dislike this team more than I should.
119. Headshrinkers, Bam Bam Bigelow, Bastian Booger (1993) The poor victims of the Four Doinks debacle from 93. I say poor victims, as Afa, Fatu, Samu & especially Booger were pretty much eating throughout the duration of this match. On paper this team looks like absolute monsters & they probably would’ve been had they faced any other team. Instead these 4 looked like absolute morons against Men on a Mission & the friggin Bushwhackers. Bigelow deserved better, but he’d eventually get revenge on the clown. Yes they lost, but in no way am I ranking them lower than their counterpart.
118. British Bulldog, Mean Street Posse (1999) I’m trying to wrap my head around why they decided to pair the Bulldog with 3 punks wearing sweater vests, still can’t figure it out though. Regardless, they went with it & I actually didn’t mind the Posse being lackeys to Bulldog during this brief return. I actually was probably one of the very few who liked the Posse when they were around. They filled their roles well, could Rodney & Pete Gas wrestle, not really, but it sort of fit with their characters. They were rich buddies of Shane's, who cared? Bulldog, looking jacked as ever (wonder why....), wasn't the same though, which is incredibly sad considering what would happen a few years later, but this random pairing was still unique I guess could be the right word?
117. Godfather, D’Lo, Headbangers (1999) Another team from 1999 & this one, oh boy, not a whole lot going on here. Godfather still coming out with the Ho-Train, but D’Lo is again just an afterthought after his decent feud with Jeff Jarrett. The freshly reunited Headbangers are back after Mosh's disasterous run as Beaver Cleavage (I was there live for his debut & only match, yeah, big time bragging rights for me) and then that weird run where he was just Chaz & wrestled in his boxers. I liked them as a team, but with the amount of new teams around this time, you knew they'd be a complete afterthought, which they were. Overall fine team for what it was, but all these guys were really going to be passed by as the months went on. Godfather would wisely change things up briefly though.
116. Faarooq, Vader, Razor Ramon, Diesel (1996) 96 was a weird year in terms of Survivor Series teams. This one match had, as mentioned before, the debut of Flash Funk, return of Jimmy Snuka, but also, the debut of the new Faarooq & his Nation of Domination. It would become an awesome faction over time, but what should’ve been solely focused on that group got completely lost in the shuffle & many forget it even happened this night. Vader, who was just in the main event picture, now is pushed back into his old feud with the even bigger (literally) Yokozuna, while you had fake Razor & Diesel just taking up spaces and, despite being around only a month, had already ran its course. Those two were a total flop & the less said about it the better. Poor Glenn, at least he didn’t have to be a dentist anymore.
115. Headbangers, New Blackjacks (1997) Yes, another Headbangers team, only this time, it’s with mustachioed partners instead of a pimp &….well, D’Lo. I’d say 97 would be the year Mosh & Thrasher were the most over as a team; however the same couldn’t be said for Bradshaw & Windham, who were just a weird combo. I mean, I understood the pairing, just never really got on board with them. It did however showcase a future star in Bradshaw & it made Windham, who was one of my favorite wrestlers in WCW, relevant for the first time in his second WWF run (The Stalker wasn’t getting it done, more on that later).
114. Rockers, Bushwhackers (1991) I’ll never forget this team because during this match, when asked by The Brain who would the captain be out of these 4, Gorilla Monsoon replied “I’d assume Luke!” to which Heenan replied “LUKE?!?!.....LUKE?!?!?” I loved that line. What a slap in the face to Marty & Shawn, granted they were in the midst of their falling out, but for Gorilla to say a Bushwhacker was the captain, just ridiculous. Anyways, this team was fine for what it was, but they were solely together for The Rockers to have their fall out, I mean look at Shawn in this picture, he'd rather be anywhere else in the world than teaming with these 3. Shawn would cut the dead weight a few weeks later & he’d be on his way to greatness, while The Bushwhackers would continue to lick children at ringside. Gross.
113. The Truth Commission (1997) Kurrgan, a beast, Recon, who was the later known Bull Buchanan, Sniper, who looked like a jacked up Nick Kroll (one of my favorite comedians) & a ridiculously underrated manager in The Jackyl. They didn’t really know what to do with Jackyl, but for the brief time he was around, I really liked him. Problem with this team was, Jackyl wasn’t really his messiah character yet, he was just another guy wearing green. This was mainly a one man team on this night as Kurrgan the Interrogator pretty much solely destroyed their opposition.
112. Chyna, Billy Gunn, Road Dogg, K-Kwik (2000) Poor R-Truth’s first run in the WWF he gets saddled with Road Dogg during his dark, drug days & the result was a horrible team, Get Rowdy. Add to that Mr. Ass’s horrible “The One” Billy Gunn gimmick (aside from the sweet, sweet saxophone entrance music) & you have Chyna as the most successful person on this team. They mentioned this was some sort of a mini DX reunion, but their opponents just steamrolled them, pretty much making the DX reunion team a total bust.
111. Sgt. Slaughter, Boris Zhukov, Orient Express (1990) Akeem was originally on this team, but was replaced by Boris Zhukov, which is a giant kick in the pills for Slaughter, because his team on coolness points alone would’ve been boosted up like 20 spots if he had the African Dream on his side. Instead, he gets a jobber in Boris, who subsequently would eat a Flying Jalapeño from Chico Santana in the opening minute. Despite a very solid team in Sato & Tanaka, they fell victim to The Bushwhackers not long after. It was Slaughter, positioned for a huge run in the next few months, who salvaged his team & nearly defeated everyone.
110. Randy Orton, Sheamus, Mason Ryan, Kofi Kingston, Sin Cara (2011) This was a very odd team as this was during the month Mason Ryan had his push & also Botch Cara wasn’t really his botchy self yet. 2010-2013 Randy Orton is a complete blur to me honestly. I know he feuded with Wade Barrett briefly, but I can’t think of another feud he had. That’s the problem with face Orton, it all gets lost, but heel Orton I can oddly remember. I’d say the same goes for Sheamus, but quite frankly, I try not to remember anything he does. Kofi rated this low was tough, but simply couldn’t rank him higher.
109. Too Cool, Crash & Hardcore Holly (1999) I should note, I couldn't find a pic of these 4 together, thus why you get shocked Scotty. Fairly confident the transition from Too Much to Too Cool happened less than a month prior to this PPV, so Grandmaster & Scotty were both heels & nowhere near the characters they’d become. Still though, they were ridiculous as ever & luckily teamed with one of my guilty pleasure tag teams of the Attitude Era, that being The Holly Cousins. Claiming to weigh in well over 800 pounds, both “super heavyweights” bickering was great & it gave the pretty boring Hardcore Holly something to do & introduced us to his cousin, Elroy Jetson, who would go on to become one of the most entertaining characters during his time with the WWE.
108. Bret, Owen, Bruce, Keith Hart (1993) I’m sorry, but I said when I first made this list, I’d rank it on talent involved, relevancy, teamwork & how much I enjoyed the team. Well, Bret & Owen were two of the best on the roster, but Bruce & Keith were awful and also absolutely not relevant at all. I know it’s the Hart Family, but wow this was rough. Teamwork, well we all know how that worked out and finally I couldn’t stand Bruce & to a lesser extent, Keith as well. Yes it’d set the stage for a fantastic heel turn, but the team itself was terrible. Heenan’s commentary destroying Stu was a thing of beauty though.
107. Andre the Giant, Haku, Arn Anderson, & Bobby Heenan (1989) From one family to another, speaking of The Brain, his Family was always a strange group, but I loved the faction. Had Tully not gotten popped for drugs earlier in the day, I would’ve ranked them higher, but The Brain, wrestling in his singlet, was used as a comedy act (rightfully so, hell he even pinned someone in the match), but the entire Family was made a joke because Andre was counted out within 30 seconds into the match! I never once believed they’d win, especially with Warrior on the other side, but the team could’ve been a LOT stronger. Double A & Haku did a majority of the work the entire match, so technically it was 4 on 2 before the match even began.
Next 20 coming soon, then I'll break it down to 10 a piece.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 19, 2015 13:44:01 GMT -6
The Truth Commission was great.
Jackal later found his mark as Cyrus in ECW.
Wish he was still around. Even on commentary he was great.
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Post by randomone on Sept 19, 2015 14:08:15 GMT -6
The Truth Commission was great. Jackal later found his mark as Cyrus in ECW. Wish he was still around. Even on commentary he was great. Cyrus was a fantastic character. Pretty much Paul E airing out his frustrations with TNN.
I wish he had a better run in WWF though, some of his promos were so odd it was great. I think once they formed the Oddities as a comedy group, everything was lost for him.
He did bring together Bradshaw & Faarooq as the Acolytes, before Taker stole them.
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Post by November KS on Sept 19, 2015 14:56:42 GMT -6
This thread is great.
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Post by Bobby Heenan on Sept 19, 2015 16:54:25 GMT -6
Survivor Series 89'. Chicago, Illinois. I might have a couple stories from this Thanksgiving if you're interested. I caught the Red Rooster getting a hummer from a Park Ridge four before the show even started.
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Post by Bobby Heenan on Sept 19, 2015 17:02:55 GMT -6
So it's Black Wednesday on Rush Street. It took us forty minutes to convince Bad News it wasn't a racial thing. This was also the first time I met that idiot McMichaels. I'm pretty sure he's the reason Tully failed that damn test before the show.
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Post by Bobby Heenan on Sept 19, 2015 17:50:57 GMT -6
We took a limo. Arn, Tully, Henning, Bad News, Garvin, Bravo, Sherri, Beefcake, Dibiase, Joey Marella, Kevin Dunn, and Rude.
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Post by Bobby Heenan on Sept 25, 2015 18:59:09 GMT -6
I really shouldn't tell any stories from the limo, bars, ally, McDonalds, clubs, ally, limo, bar, ally, police station, Elmhurst rub and tug, police station, limo, somewhere even Curt didn't know, police station, limo/transportation, hotel, or hotel. We'll just leave it at that.
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Post by randomone on Sept 26, 2015 9:02:32 GMT -6
106. Shawn Michaels & His Knights (1993) Perhaps this could rank as the most odd pairing out of this list, something we can blame Jerry Lawler for. If it wasn’t for King’s issues out of the ring (as he was indicted after being accused of raping a teenage girl, who later admitted to making up the story!), I could’ve ranked this team higher, but, Shawn Michaels teaming with Knights is just weird. Barry Horowitz & Greg Valentine were 2 of the Knights (super odd choices), but I wondered what happened to the 3rd Knight, Jeff Gaylord, so I looked it up…..yeah, he’s serving 6 years in prison for a bank robbery in 2009. For shame Black Knight, for shame. I get why Shawn was the most logical replacement, but having it be Shawn Michaels & “His Knights” was dumb.
105. Skinner, Berzerker, Col. Mustafa, Hercules (1991) This team wins, hands down, best facial hair out of any other team ranked. Sadly beards aren’t a category I’m judging on. Hercules was completely forgotten about, Mustafa could barely move & quite honestly, I never was a Skinner fan, I thought it was a terrible gimmick. Not unlike my boy The Berzerker though, who I thought was hilarious as a kid. I never understood why he was booed, was it because of Fuji? That’s all I can come up with, because as a kid, looking at a guy running around the ring yelling HUSS HUSS is funny to me. This team would've been even more awesome if the original member, Big Bully Busick, wouldn't have been replaced by Hercules. Incredible downgrade at the mustache role.
104. Alundra Blayze, Kyoko Inoue, Sakie Hasegawa, Chaparita Asari (1995) 103. Bertha Faye, Aja Kong, Tomoko Watanabe, Lioness Asuka (1995) What’s this? I said I wasn’t done with the women’s teams yet, because this match was top to bottom awesome. Only bad thing about this match was Vince McMahon trying to pronounce these ladies names. Other than that, the 10 minute match was exciting & completely different from anything we’ve seen before for WWF. Aja Kong with that badass spinning back fist to end it, a move that I remember Blayze took flush. Watch this match if you can find it, incredibly underrated women’s match. Wish Vince didn’t bail on the Women’s division after this, he could’ve had something good.
102. Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger, Tyler Reks, Drew McIntyre, Alberto Del Rio (2010) I really enjoyed the Dashing Cody Rhodes gimmick, I enjoyed even more the hideous disproportioned face of Cody Rhodes gimmick, so after that all finished, Cody transitioned into sort of the upper card (where he should be now, but that’s another thread), feuding with Randy Orton in a pretty entertaining feud on Smackdown. They had some hard hitting fights, so he was a fantastic member of this team. Swagger had fallen off briefly, but not much at this time, he was still the All American-American-American & hadn’t become Michael Cole’s muscle just yet. Speaking of muscle, this was during the two month span where Tyler Reks was pushed as a singles guy. He had a very generic look, but wasn’t bad in the ring, it’s a shame he didn’t get a shot, as he & Curt Hawkins were entertaining on NXT. I prefer the Dreadlock Demolition Man gimmick over ECW’s surfer dude Tyler Reks, remember that shit? I barely do. Again, speaking of guys who never got pushed enough; Drew McIntyre could still be the most underutilized guy WWE had on their roster for quite a long time. Incredibly underrated, who deserved so much more in his time in WWE. Then there’s Del Rio, who, was still the relative newcomer to this group, was still getting into his groove, but still, a decent team with talent who completely should’ve been used better. Well 4 out of the 5 anyways.
101. Ultimate Warrior, the Blue Blazer, Jim Brunzell, Sam Houston, Brutus Beefcake (1988) 100. Honky Tonk Man, Greg Valentine, Ron Bass, Bad News Brown, Danny Davis (1988) Opening match of the 1988 PPV & I rank the losers ahead? The reason is quite simple, while Honky had a jobber like Danny Davis on his team; you had Sam Houston & Brunzell on the other side. Hard to believe Warrior was already IC champ at this show, but he was & no way was he losing. Despite the early incarnation of Rhythm & Blues, they sadly stood no chance against Warrior. Blue Blazer was great in his brief time in this match & honestly Ron Bass looks like the world’s toughest uncle. He just looks like someone you wouldn’t want to fuck with. Fully believe he should’ve amounted to more in the WWF. Oh & Bad News bails on his team, which would be a trend for him.
99. Dolph Ziggler, Damien Sandow, David Otunga, Wade Barrett, Alberto Del Rio (2012) I’ll defend the Otunga thermos any day! I actually enjoyed Otunga as a heel, could he wrestle all that well, not really, but he was the suit lackey, so he filled the role incredibly well. With Cody Rhodes out with injury, this was basically a lost Sandow, but he’s entertaining as well. Then you have Ziggler, who was Mr. MITB & about to become a pretty badass heel for a period. The only reason this team gets ranked lower is Barrett & Del Rio, both of which I have no recollection of during this period. Both very good wrestlers, no doubt about it, but both guys runs in the WWE have had this happen where there is a stretch where they do absolutely nothing, so it’s easy to forget all about them. Solid overall team, but forgettable.
98. Disciples of Apocalypse (1997) I never liked this faction, out of the 3 that formed of this, The Nation & Los Boricuas, I liked this one the least. Just 4 biker dudes, that’s all the depth of their characters. Maybe it’s because I could never shake the image of Chainz as the fake Undertaker in 94, or Skull & 8-Ball as the Blu Brothers. I only ranked them this high because they teamed well together & despite losing, still came out of the match not looking like jobbers, even though this match was mainly to put over Kurrgan.
97. John Morrison, Matt Hardy, Evan Bourne, Shelton Benjamin, Finlay (2009) If this wasn’t 2009, this team would be ranked immensely higher, but it wasn’t, it was during the point where Finlay was forgotten about, as was Shelton & we had to suffer through Fat Hardy. Not even the greatness of Evan Bourne could help this team get ranked higher. This was during the fall out of Miz & Morrison and despite honestly, it’s weird with those 2, because in a wrestling ability sense, Morrison is Shawn & Miz is Jannetty. However, if you go careers in WWE, you could say Miz is Shawn & Morrison was Jannetty. I honestly liked Morrison, but it just seemed WWE never had anything for him other than IC title guy. Kind of like the way Dolph Ziggler is treated these days (even though Dolph got World title runs, briefly, but still)
96. Sgt. Slaughter, Jim Duggan, Texas Tornado, Tito Santana (1991) You go from being the company’s biggest heel all year, to teaming with these 3 dudes in November? What a huge step back for Sgt. Slaughter, but now that his run as Iraqi turncoat had ended, the fans seemed to forgive him relatively quickly & all it took was saving Duggan from a beat down. Very weird considering he was out to destroy America a month or two prior, but whatever, Duggan was a fan & got saved from a beating, so we forgive you Sarge! Ricky Steamboat was originally suppose to be on this team, as was Jim Neidhart, but instead they were replaced by a completely forgotten about Texas Tornado, whose best days were way behind him & yet again, Tito Santana, who had transformed into a bullfighter. I didn’t think the El Matador gimmick gave Tito much of a boost & despite all 4 of these guys at the middle of the road, they were the 2nd team to survivor as a whole, something that is just shameful.
95. Doug Furnas, Phil LaFon and The Godwinns (1996) Yet another debut for this show, this time for the Canadian duo of Doug Furnas & Phil Lafon. I actually liked these guys in the ring, as Furnas was the strongman & Lafon was the technical guy. Only thing working against them was, they never talked & seemed to be just two bland guys who could wrestle well. Nothing separated them from the pack, which I assume is why they were forgotten about 6 months later (they’d come back, but more on that later), but on this night, they were teamed with a duo who were still chugging along. I thought the Godwinns had teamed for maybe 4 years in the WWF by this point, but it had been less than a year. I hated the 96 tag picture (pre-Bulldog/Owen) and despite being good brawlers, I just didn’t enjoy the gimmick. When they became weird farm heels the following year, they’d improve a bunch.
94. King Mabel, Jerry Lawler, Isaac Yankem, Hunter Hearst Helmsley (1995) Poor Trips, his first Survivor Series & he’s saddled with a commentator, a dentist & Mabel. This team screams Mid 90s WWF, as the King was there to fill the loudmouth role, you have Isaac Yankem, who’s gimmick grew old even before his first match at Summerslam & the only up and comer was the blue blood in Hunter Hearst Helmsley, who, prior to this match, was doing incredibly well. Then you have Mabel, whose push still baffles me other than the fact that Vince had a hard on for heavy guys during this time. I think after Summerslam though, Vince grew tired of him, fed him to Taker & that was that. Only thing I liked about his tenure as king, was the poor jobbers who’d carry him to the ring & look like they were about to collapse at the weight of him.
93. Dudley Boyz and The Acolytes (1999) Dudleyz before they found the tables & APA before they found beer. In only a couple months, both teams would really find their groove, but not at this show. Buh-Buh still had a st...st...stutter & they were wearing tie-dye over cammo. Then Bradshaw & Faarooq, who still beat the shit out of guys, were still rocking those Ministry tights, despite the faction ending 5 months earlier. Come to think of it, they didn’t ditch those tights until about mid 2000, what the hell? I get that APA stands for Acolyte Protection Agency, but wearing the same gear you did when you worshiped the devil? Stupid.
92. Jim Duggan, Bret Hart, Ron Garvin, & Hercules (1989) Ah yes, The 4x4's. The 89 Survivor Series for some reason saw The Hart Foundation split up into two different teams. I’d think having Bret team with Warrior, Shawn & Marty would’ve been pretty interesting, but instead, he got saddled with running to the ring, with no entrance music at the time and carrying a 2x4. From there, it didn’t get much better, as Rugged Ronnie Garvin didn’t accomplish much in his WWF tenure & Hercules face run was fairly forgettable. Considering who they faced, this team didn’t stand a chance. The only teamwork they had was they, as I said, ran to the ring together….with boards. Hooooooorrible!! (I’ll see myself out)
91. Vader, Goldust, Marc Mero, Steve Blackman (1997) “Yeah we need 4 Americans to fight the Canadians, who we got? Vader isn’t doing much, grab him. Goldust has this weird as shit gimmick, grab him. Who else, Mero is healthy, why not, throw him in there. What's that? The Patriot is hurt? We need one more, what do you mean there’s no one left? What about job guys from the 80s then? Steve Blackman you say?” That’s how I assume they came up with picking Blackman, as up to this point, he had absolutely done nothing except be a random job guy. The Patriot, if not injured, would've filled the role great since he's going into Canada, but it wasn't meant to be. Mero was just coming back from an injury & was heel now. Similar to Goldust who was in his Forever Unchained thing after he dumped Marlena for…..Luna, wow. Vader was still a monster, but with this being in Canada, this whole team was more about arguing than anything & it made the Mastodon look like a fool.
90. Lex Luger, Mabel, Adam Bomb, Smokin’ Gunns (1994) Guts n’ Glory, terrible name, only saved by…..well, not all that much, except the Gunns, who were still a very good tag team in this time. With Mo out of action, they had big Mabel just fill a spot, then Adam Bomb was relevant around this time. Then you have good ol’ Lex, who, after Vince realized he wasn’t going to be champion, pretty much made him into a total boob. He gets played by Tatanka of all people & looked foolish against a very weak Million Dollar Corporation. Luger was just another guy in the upper mid card, but his days of main eventing were way behind him. Not a good team at all.
89. Hunter Hearst Helmsley, Crush, Jerry Lawler, Goldust (1996) Yet another year Trips can’t shake Lawler off & gets saddled with The King yet again. In a weird way, this team kind of made sense, because it set up the eventual feud between Trips & Goldust, who was just about to turn face. I thought the jailbird gimmick for Crush was terrible, but not nearly as bad as the fake tattoo on his head. Back to Triple H, I always find it strange when people say Hunter got “punished” after the Curtain Call, because really all that happened was he didn’t do anything for a few months (granted he didn’t get KOTR until a year later), but he became IC champ like 6 months after the Curtain Call happened. He wasn’t slumming it for a year. Besides, prior to that happening, he’d been feuding with Duke Droese & having Hogpen matches. Not really the most high profile feuds.
88. Undertaker, Savio Vega, Fatu, Henry Godwinn (1995) Speaking of slumming it though, the Phantom of the Opera mask of The Undertaker was the captain of 3 incredibly mediocre teammates (I should say gimmicks, because the wrestlers were good). Savio Vega was very bland with his dancing and well, that’s it. Fatu was all about making a difference and then there’s the HOG man, who I’m not sure if he came to the ring with a farm animal or not, pretty sure it was the good old fashioned slop bucket. Anyways, the only way you knew these guys were teammates of the Undertaker was that they all wore the new Undertaker t-shirt, so it became a ShopZone commercial this match. Or whatever the 1-800 number was that Dok Hendrix pimped during PPVs. It was a weird time for Taker with this mask & I never got on bored with it, however, his awesomeness speaks for itself and he completely destroyed his opposition. He could’ve pulled a Big Show & just laid out his team prior to the match & won this on his own actually. That would’ve been frowned upon in the New Generation I guess.
87. King Kong Bundy, Tatanka, Bam Bam Bigelow, Heavenly Bodies (1994) This was somewhat the unofficial launch of the Million Dollar Corporation, as Dibiase had aligned himself with Tatanka at Summerslam & not that far after Bigelow came on board, then before the show, Bundy was recruited. Those last two sure beat the hell out of Dibiase’s first recruit………Nikolai Volkoff, which still baffles me. Poor Nikolai couldn’t even get a spot on this team? You’re asking yourself, why the hell should he, to which I say good question, but this was 1994 & we had a 20 minute little person match earlier in the show. The Heavenly Bodies got a PPV spot instead. Apparently Well Dunn wasn’t good enough to fill this spot.
Next 20 on its way next week. Was going to milk this until the Survivor Series, but instead I'll probably post the next 20 sooner than that.
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Post by randomone on Sept 29, 2015 11:22:48 GMT -6
I really wanted to wait to do this list weekly to coincide with the Survivor Series, but last night during Raw, I decided to write out the next 20. I think I'll post 10 from now on, but here we go #86 through #67. Starting with a personal favorite of mine.......
86. Winger With songs like Seventeen, despite being a damn toe tapper, it was creepy as hell. A grown man singing about “daddy says she’s too young, but she’s old enough for me”? Are you kidding me? Why isn’t Kip Winger in jail, I mean I………hold on, I think I’m……shit, wrong list, sorry KS.
86. Nasty Boys, Natural Disasters (1992) Here we go, THIS one is my list. I was really thinking about ranking this team a tad higher, because, you look at them & think, they were pretty good brawlers & big guys, for the early 90s, those were the 2 requirements you needed to get over with Vince. However, had these 4 teamed a year earlier, I would’ve ranked them higher no question about it, they were heels & I love heels, especially early 90s heels. This was the end of 92 & both teams were just about on their final stages of their runs together in the WWF. Earthquake & Typhoon would disband at the Rumble & the Nastys were gone around Mania. It seemed like a giant waste of a face turn on the Nastys, who I assumed were going to face Money Inc for the titles…….until Hogan & Beefcake took their spot at Mania (ironic seeing as Knobbs is one of Hogan’s best buddies). I liked the teams, but Nastys as faces were awful.
85. Skip, Rad Radford, Tom Prichard, 123 Kid (1995) Goofy gimmicks aside, this team could possibly Top 20-25 in terms of best all around wrestlers on a team together. In that regard, they are awesome. However, the randomness of putting a directionless pre-Zip Tom Prichard in this match baffled me. There’s absolutely no other guys they could’ve tossed into this thing? Rad Radford, for his brief stint in WWF, I enjoyed, mainly because I liked the Bodydonna In Training thing he had going with Skip & Sunny. The Kid, fresh off the heel turn against Razor was the star of this match, but Skip took one of the coolest bumps I’ve ever seen on a PPV. More on that in a few teams. Overall though, it was a very talented team, just for the time, very odd though. Kid had zero feuds going in this match, why couldn’t he have been in the Wild Card Match later in the night? Team him with his boy HBK? Or as JBL would call him H-B-SHiz………I’m not even going to type the rest out. You suck at commentary Bradshaw.
84. JBL, Miz, John Morrison, MVP, Kane (2008) What a hell of a segue that was eh? From criticizing JBL’s commentary to criticizing his team, which, all things considered, wasn’t all that bad for 2008. However MVP was in the midst of his terrible & pointless losing streak and was eliminated within a few minutes, as was Kane, who was eliminated by Rey Mysterio in again around 2-3 minutes. Not a strong showing by any means. Granted Miz & Morrison were in top form here as a solid tag team, they had nothing they could do really, as JBL bailed & Morrison was left to go it alone after Miz got eliminated. What should’ve been an incredibly stronger team, wasn’t that strong at all.
83. Honky Tonk Man, Hercules, Danny Davis, Rob Bass, Harley Race (1987) Here we are, the very first heel team in Survivor Series history, one I…….didn’t really care all that much for. Maybe it was because their counterparts were such an amazing team, one you’ll see way down the list, or maybe I just didn’t really enjoy the gimmicks. I’ve mentioned it with Ron Bass before, just never really got on board with him. Dangerous Danny Davis, while funny, was a job guy with a gimmick, hell who am I kidding, he was a referee with a gimmick! Harley was only 44 during this PPV, though during his run as the King in the WWF, it always looked like he was 58 at least. Hercules was just about to be “sold” to Ted Dibiase by The Brain, so his time with the Heenan Family I don’t remember very well. Then there’s Honky, who, when it was all down to him, bailed as quickly as possible.
82. New Age Outlaws, Godwinns (1997) I always liked the redneck, gross looking heel Godwinns as opposed to the happy go lucky, gross looking face Godwinns. They ditched bringing Hillbilly Jim & the farm animals to the ring and got an attitude. It did snag them another tag title in the process, which they’d lost already by this point, but still, attitude change made them more interesting & I dug it. They couldn’t hold a candle to their tag partners though, as the New Age Outlaws, the newly formed New Age Outlaws, were just starting to become the cool kids in the tag division. If you told me 3 months prior that Jesse James & Rockabilly would become one of the best teams in the WWF, I’d think you were nuts, but damn did these two dudes capitalize on their potential. Everything clicked with them. This match was good, but Billy completely whiffed on a top rope legdrop & sadly that’s all I remember during this match. Incredibly solid team though.
81. Marty Jannetty, Hakushi, Barry Horowitz, Bob Holly (1995) Say what you want, but I thought the “Horowitz Wins!” gimmick was fun when it first started. Here you had a solid worker like Barry Horowitz, jobber to the stars, never won a match & then out of nowhere he beats an overly cocky Skip and shocks the world. Enough time had passed from the 123 Kid/Razor RAW match that this was entertaining to me. I did however feel that they should’ve ended it a lot sooner than they did. It was a 1-2 month thing, instead you have Horowitz captaining this team. Let us not forget, Barry Horowitz’s theme song…..was Hava Nagila, haha, I still oddly love that. Anyways, Bob Holly was a guy you could just put in matches & he’d be solid, he was doing nothing at the time really. Hakushi, what a fall over the course of half a year. Came into the WWF against Bret Hart & months later he’s a face now, teaming with Barry Horowitz. Marty Jannetty, like I mentioned earlier, had the sickest bump I had seen in WWF for a long time when he POWERBOMBED Skip off the top rope to eliminate him. The Underdogs was a fitting name, every guy could work, they teamed well & overall that’s all you can ask for in this case.
80. British Bulldog, Jim Neidhart, Doug Furnas, Phil Lafon (1997) Back to 97 we go & we get a team, where, anywhere else aside from Canada, I probably wouldn’t have given a bump in the rankings, but alas here we were. 4 guys, who, by all accounts, weren’t doing jack shit at the time. Only one would be Bulldog, who had just lost the European title to HBK about a few months prior, but other than that, he & Neidhart were Bret’s sidekicks. The Hart Foundation was still strong, but this being their last night together, it was somewhat bittersweet. Furnas & Lafon were a very odd choice, it makes me wonder, if Lafon wasn’t Canadian, would they even been on this team? Because Doug Furnas was from Oklahoma, I don’t think they ever mentioned that. Anvil was still putting around, but this team, while having potential, only benefitted from the crowd being Canadian to give them as big of pop as they got. I’m also fairly confident this was the first time (maybe, I’d have to look it up) that this was the last time we’d see an entire Survivor Series team, as Bulldog & Anvil would go to WCW and Furnas & Lafon would do just a few house shows after this.
79. Edge & Christian, The Goodfather, Bull Buchanan (2000) Easily the laziest/most clever way of turning someone heel, was the adding of an O to the Godfather and making him The Goodfather. It was ridiculous, but it absolutely fit for this time and at this point, the Right to Censor was still kicking & annoying everyone, which was their job. They weren’t a joke yet & hell, they were even Tag Team champs heading into this show. Then you add the duo so reeking of awesomeness & this is a nice little team, so you’d think they would’ve teamed better, but they really didn’t, their opposition got the best of them & I can only assume it’s because they didn’t want nearly all the heels winning their matches that night.
78. Rey Mysterio, Kofi Kingston, Chris Masters, Big Show, MVP (2010) Honestly, I forgot MVP was still with the company at this point. It’s a bummer, because I enjoyed him when he first came into the WWE, but his run completely became forgettable as time went on. Same could be said for Chris Masters, but this was during the period where I was really enjoying watching Superstars each week online & Masters was improving week by week, having fantastic matches that went completely unappreciated. That’s when I really became a fan of his work, so he might have looked out of place, but he absolutely deserved a spot on this team. Kofi was still putting on great matches, he always has, but this was before he sadly was forgotten about by creative. Mysterio was healthy in November, as usual & Big Show………yeah. Good collection of guys, but in 2010, meh.
77. Big Bossman, Honky Tonk Man, Bad News Brown, Rick Martel (1989) How bummed do you have to be when you find out that Bad News Brown is a replacement & going to be on your team? I’d hate that Akeem would be replaced by Brown, who, once again, bailed on his team. I just re-watched this PPV, he never wanted a tag & when he did, Bossman accidentally hit him & he bailed, just like last year. Nothing creative about it. After his IC title run, Honky Tonk Man was just there, he didn’t really accomplish anything aside from forming an odd tag team that forced Greg Valentine to dye his hair black. Rick Martel was still on the rise as his Model gimmick was just getting going, always a favorite of mine, who I think gets absolutely overlooked by WWE when they talk about strong heels from the past. Bossman as a vicious heel was a favorite of mine as well, he was a just a brutal dickhead character, abusing his power, you couldn’t help but hate him. Very strong team captain, who should’ve had two better teammates. Honky fought well in this match, but you’d be better off going at it with 3 than even give Bad News a paycheck.
76. Dusty Rhodes, Brutus Beefcake, Tito Santana, Red Rooster (1989) Give this team a little bump as opposed to their opposition because they won the match, though it wouldn’t seem like it at the end. Bossman destroyed Dusty with the nightstick after the match & that was really it with their feud, I was hoping they’d have a singles match, but it never happened. Dusty never got his revenge. I guess this was it for their feud, so technically Dusty won it? Brutus was a good Survivor Series wrestler; he’d get in there, get his punches in, get his ass kicked, eliminate a guy or two & then get the tag. That’s all you want in a tag partner. This was probably the strongest all around team that Tito Santana got to team with…..but he was eliminated first & rather quick. Poor showing for Chico. Then there’s the Rooster, who I can’t believe was still a thing. I can’t defend it, the gimmick sucked royally. Terry Taylor, great wrestler, Red Rooster, awful, just awful.
75. Owen Hart & British Bulldog, New Rockers (1996) In mid 1996, the tag team division in the WWF completely bottomed out. You had 4 tag teams basically on your roster (Smokin’ Gunns, Godwinns, Bodydonnas & New Rockers) and zero people interested. Sure you had Sunny prance around in her skimpy outfits, which at that time was amazing (these days her current means of employment makes me want to throw up), but she had jumped around from tag team to tag team & that was it. Until the Bulldog & Owen got involved, giving the division life. Over time the division would slowly build again, but this was the farewell for Marty & Leif, who, aside from the Godwinns, who would float until the next year, this would be the final team to bite the dust in that horrible period of tag wrestling. Owen & Bulldog would get different teams to work with & we can just put this whole disaster behind us. As a kid, I hated the New Rockers, because they couldn’t decide if they were heels or faces. Leif Cassidy did nothing to distinguish himself as a heel & Marty had always been a face. Them teaming with Owen & Bulldog, established heels, was incredibly confusing and shows just how shallow the tag division was at this time.
74. Nasty Boys, Beverly Brothers (1991) Beating a team involving the Bushwhackers always gets you ranked a little higher in my book, so is the case with this team. The still entertaining heels in Knobbs & Sags and one of my absolute favorite heel teams in the Beverlys. Beau & Blake were a completely overlooked team, who should’ve been legit contenders for the Tag Team titles, but when they got their shot in 1992, it just didn’t seem to click. All that aside, they teamed incredibly well, even if their opponents were in the midst of a falling out. Then again, it’s not hard to outsmart a team, who, like I’ve mentioned previously Gorilla Monsoon said was captained by Luke of the Bushwhackers. Only one of the Bevs had to take a loss, but the rest of the team survived, making it a pretty strong overall team.
73. Ted Dibiase, Zeus, & Powers of Pain (1989) He couldn’t wrestle for shit, but I sorta liked Zeus brought in for one match to promote No Holds Barred back in August at Summerslam………then cut to November…….and the dude is still around? How does that work? Is he there to promote the VHS release? That’s the only logical explanation. Then you also have the Powers of Pain, who have done absolutely nothing since Wrestlemania! It’s odd that Zeus, had accomplished more than Warlord & Barbarian in the past few months. This would be the final PPV we’d see the Powers of Pain as a team & I always liked them at first, but the odd double turn at the year prior was very strange, more on that later. I did however prefer them as singles wrestlers a year later. Poor Dibiase, a fantastic worker, one of the top 5 on the roster, had to take another legdrop from the red & yellow bulldozer & that was sadly it. Why Dibiase teamed with Zeus instead of Savage is beyond me. Dibiase & Hogan had zero story left to tell and Savage was off teaming against a completely different team. The booking for this show was complete dogshit.
72. Kurt Angle, Carlito, Luther Reigns, Mark Jindrak (2004) This was basically a 3 man team since Carlito pulled a Bad News if you will, bailing on his team. John Cena was in hot pursuit, but came back to fight with his pretty snazzy team (more on that later) to very different Team Angle. Kurt Angle is one of the best wrestlers ever, his Olympic Hero character in the early 2000’s was my favorite, but dickhead aggressive Kurt around this time was my second favorite. I never got on board with Luther Reigns, a muscle dude, who didn’t wrestle great. On the other hand, I liked Mark Jindrak in the ring & felt he deserved a better run than he got in WWE. Only thing that I feel held him back was his nonexistent mic skills. They tried hard to get him over, but his Reflection of Perfection gimmick went nowhere, though he did recycle The Narcissist theme. When you had Haas & Benjamin with Kurt, it clicked perfectly, but these dudes with Kurt, didn’t really gel all that well. Probably the weakest Kurt looked in a Survivor Series.
71. Dusty Rhodes, Koko B. Ware, Hart Foundation (1990) Once sweet Sapphire left Dusty, the polka dots were gone & instead we got an odd top hat with bones on it Dusty. He had already begun his feud with Ted Dibiase & Virgil, who had attacked Dustin, his son, a few weeks prior. Which begs the question, why the fuck was Koko B. Ware in this match & not Dustin Rhodes? This is the perfect match for them to cover up any weaknesses a young Dustin would’ve had, but alas, it didn’t happen. If the main reason Koko was in this match was to make the debuting superstar on the other team look strong, Anvil could’ve been the one to get the shit beaten out of him instead. It was another strong showing for Bret, who, like the year prior, was the final man eliminated on his team, but in the process looked fantastic & I think even back then, they knew he’d be their IC champ within the year. The Hart Foundation were still tag champs, but I didn’t think they needed to be at this time, I thought another tag team on this card should’ve been tag champs. I’ll cover that later.
70. Legion of Doom, Big Bossman (1991) I was debating this one for a bit, because looking at this team, I’d rank them higher absolutely, but Bossman looked unbelievably weak in this match, being eliminated in just over 6 minutes after a briefcase shot by IRS. Meanwhile the LOD went on to beat the rest of their opponents, but for some reason that one loss always bugged me more than anything else. Yeah the Natural Disasters had a falling out with IRS in this match, but it didn’t bug me near as much. Sid Justice was supposed to be the team captain, but I’m pretty sure got hurt during this time, so it was 3 on 3. Not nearly as rad as their opponents team captain, or who was supposed to be their team captain……
69. Natural Disasters, IRS (1991) If this team had its original 4th member, Jake Roberts, as it’s team captain, I would’ve ranked this team much higher, because even as a trio, it was a friggin strong trio. I enjoyed the Typhoon heel turn, he could accomplish a lot more as a heel aligned with the other monster in Earthquake & have a mouthpiece in Jimmy Hart. Meanwhile when he was a face, all he said as Tugboat was “TOOT! TOOT!” So when he turned heel on The Bushwhackers of all teams, I loved it! IRS meanwhile was probably in the top 7 or so in ring workers in the company & was a very underrated heel. However despite being 3 of my favorites at this time, IRS smacked Typhoon with the briefcase & got him eliminated, then Earthquake, again I use this phrase, pulled a Bad News, bailing on his teammate. Had they been an actual cohesive unit, I would’ve ranked them higher, even despite losing.
68. Hulk Hogan, Paul Orndorff, Don Muraco, Ken Patera, Bam Bam Bigelow (1987) Terry & The Scrubs is what this team could’ve been called, as it’s sort of a bummer to see Hulk’s team compared to how awesome his opponents were. They made this team look like complete goofs, which, at one point, Hogan high fived I think Patera and the ref said it was a tag. Instead of just tagging Hogan back in to face Andre, Patera went on to get squashed. Only guy who I felt deserved to look strong in this match was Bigelow, who was getting a good push around this time. Looking back on it, it was bullshit, you had Hogan get counted out (never take a clean pin, always shenanigans), Bigelow fought off King Kong Bundy & One Man Gang, only to fall to Andre, which I get. What I hated was Hogan came back out, Andre bailed & we get a Hogan posedown to end the show. Bigelow as a complete afterthought. It’d be a running trend for Hogan, one I wouldn’t really recognize until I grew older. A big reason I was happy I was never a Hulkamaniac growing up.
67. The Spirit Squad (2006) You’re damn right I have them this high up, why, because like it or not, I really enjoyed the Spirit Squad. All the guys (minus Mitch, who wasn’t in this match) could work very well, their teamwork was excellent & their gimmick made you want to punch them in the face, which meant it was working. Yes it’s a male cheerleader gimmick, but they were completely wasted in the DX feud. No way should they have won the feud, but it just seemed it went on FOREVER & all they did was get their asses kicked each & every time. Vince & Shane got more offense in on DX than all 5 Spirit Squad members did during their matches. Regardless, they were coming to an end of the road in this match as some would leave the WWE quickly, some would be pushed briefly & one would, over time, steal the show….and your girlfriend. And as of writing this, be stuck in a shitty storyline with a Russian dude & two leggy blondes.
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Post by randomone on Oct 3, 2015 10:48:19 GMT -6
66. Kofi Kingston, MVP, Christian, R-Truth, Mark Henry (2009)Probably thinking to yourself, why have this team ranked so high, one reason, an incredible backstage promo prior to this match where Christian (the only ECW guy & only Canadian, no other difference at all) raps “Team Kofi Kingston, looking for a fight. Four of us are black; one of us is white, WHAT’S UP?” Despite MVP, Henry & Truth not being involved in much of anything at that time, this wasn’t a bad team at all & that promo I still think is hilarious. Memorable, which is more than I can say about most of these teams. 65. Ultimate Warrior, Jim Neidhart, & Rockers (1989)You could say around this time that the Ultimate Warrior was more over than WWF Champion Hulk Hogan, they would both a few months later face off at Wrestlemania & Hogan would do something he never did up to that point, put someone over. This night, with the exception of maybe 2 teams, every team on this show was booked wrong. Why did Hulk Hogan team with Jake Roberts? Why did Brutus team with Dusty? Why was Zeus with Dibiase? Why was Savage with Bravo? Especially when they were pimping a match with Hulk & Brutus vs Zeus & Savage in a cage a few weeks later? Made no sense. It also made zero sense to break up the Hart Foundation, putting them on separate teams. I guess if they were going to do it, put Anvil, who is a psychopath, on the Warriors team & have Shawn & Marty act all hyper. Hell during the match, Marty got pinned…..by Bobby Heenan. Well, no one could say Marty wouldn’t do business. 64. Batista, CM Punk, Kofi Kingston, Matt Hardy, R-Truth (2008)I actually really enjoyed this team, as during this time, you had Kofi, the flashy up & comer, Hardy, who was putting on some of the more entertaining singles matches in his career on ECW, Punk, who, despite being screwed out of actually defending his World Title back at Unforgiven, transitioned into a feud with William Regal, which is great, Batista, feuding with Orton & Legacy &…….well, Truth. Overall it wasn’t a bad team at all, but this was during the transition period when Batista was about to go back to Smackdown & this feud with Orton didn’t really go anywhere. The team looked strong, but their opposition nearly ran through them all, leaving only Batista on his side. They should’ve put up a better fight than what they did. 63. Marc Mero, Rocky Maivia, Stalker, Jake Roberts (1996)We’ll get to Rocky in a second, I want to ask a legit question, how in the hell is a guy named The Stalker considered a “good guy”? Barry Windham in camouflage; got it. He has very creepy entrance music, sure. Then why the fuck are fans supposed to cheer this guy? Was it his mustache? I’m still trying to figure it out. Then you have the replacement for an injured (the first of many) Mark Henry, who would be Jake Roberts looking as bloated as ever. I know it was a tough around this time for Jake, but damn, he might’ve wanted to take the route old wrestlers do now, wear a t-shirt. It was hard to watch him fall this far, despite being involved in a pretty important match. Mero was a solid worker, but at this point, for me at least, it became all about Sable, which I realize wasn’t even the point around this time, but she was incredible. Fairly confident this was before she got the giant implants & became the slutty Sable we all loved. Then there’s mop top Rocky Maivia, who was the most babyface of babyfaces, but he had the look. Did anyone know in 2 years he’d be WWF Champ? Absolutely not, but you could tell the charisma was there. His character was a tribute to his family & despite thinking the name was silly, it is a lot better than Peter Johnson. Think about how that would’ve gone if that had been his name? 62. Kane, Daniel Bryan, Kofi Kingston, The Miz, Randy Orton (2012)This was Team Foley in a feud I don’t actually remember, because quite frankly, I don’t remember Mick being a part of it. I assume Foley was supposed to be in this match, but wasn’t cleared? I could be completely wrong, but that’s the only explanation I can come up with. The Miz being involved with all these faces was odd too, so it makes you think creative had no clue what to do with these guys so they just say screw it, throw them all together. Only thing I remember about Foley at this time was he name dropped Amy Schumer in a backstage promo with Dolph Ziggler, who he dated around this time, which I thought was really funny. 61. Hulk Hogan, Jim Duggan, Big Bossman, Tugboat (1990)Facial hair was strongly represented in this one as it was Hogan & his lackeys going into battle. After watching this PPV recently, the fans were absolutely on fire for this team actually, but we all know, during the early 90s, no one & I mean NO ONE is going to survive on a team except for Hulk (main event tag with Warrior being sole exception). So, despite being a pretty decent team for 1990, Duggan, Bossman & Toot Toot Tugboat had no chance in hell in surviving this thing. Terry needs his pose down time or Terry won’t do business! That’s pretty much the motto for Hulkamania. 60. Money Inc, Beverly Brothers (1992)I went against my criteria in rankings in this one & put this team higher up mainly because these were two of my absolute favorite teams in the 90s. Oddly enough, had it not been for Money Inc forming & becoming the main heel team in the division, I’d like to think the Beverlys would’ve gotten a run with the titles. At the very least, give them a run during the stretch between Mania & Summerslam. I thought they were an incredibly underrated & underappreciated team, who was completely forgotten about, much like Power & Glory a few years earlier. They made the Beverlys look like jokes when they had them feud against the Bushwhackers. On this night though, I hate how they went against traditional Survivor Series rules & when one guy was eliminated, both team was out. This was also a bummer, because by around February of 93, nearly all these teams, with the exception being Money Inc, the Beverlys, Natural Disasters & Nastys were all broke up. 59. Mr. Perfect, Demolition (1990)This team was pretty creepy if you think about it. You had Mr. Perfect, one of my all time favorite IC champions of all time (even though he wasn’t champ during this show), managed by The Brain, then you had Demolition, one of the best tag teams in the late 80s. However, this was during the time when Crush was brought in to replace Ax who was on his last legs due to injuries, hell he didn’t even spring for gel in his hair to slick it back & instead he just trotted out there with big poofy hair. After Ax got hurt & LOD came into the WWF, it seemed like Vince couldn’t give a shit about them anymore. What made it creepy to me was you had this cool, cocky Mr. Perfect teaming with 3 guys with new S&M leather masks (they had zippers on the mouths for God sake!). I liked Crush, but didn’t think he fit the mold other than lazy face paint. Perfect deserved a better team, but for his performance alone in this one, having to face off against the IC & World Champion by himself, it got a bump in the rankings. 58. Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio, Cryme Tyme, Great Khali (2008)Did Khali move like a robot? Absolutely, however, say what you want, but when he first turned heel, I enjoyed it. I didn’t love his in ring work, so let’s not get out of hand, but he was entertaining to me. The Punjabi Playboy gimmick a few years later I didn’t care for, but around this time, he was just good guy Khali, nothing really to complain about with that. Cryme Time was a weird team for me, they were funny at times, but I never liked them in the ring. I never found myself interested whenever they wrestled. Shawn & Rey on the same team is what shoots this team up the ranks, because for the amount of years they were in WWE together, they never really interacted with one another except for a few times. So seeing them team was awesome & having Rey get on Khali’s shoulders & do a splash still is memorable to me. 57. Big Show, Test, Umaga, MVP, Finlay (2006)For some very odd reason, I always liked this team, which is weird, because I never liked Big Show in ECW. I thought that run was absolutely unnecessary & having him destroy all the ECW originals on the terrible reboot of the brand was just embarrassing (not nearly as embarrassing as Vince McMahon holding the ECW title, but that’s beside the point). On the other hand you had Test, who was sadly coming to an end of his time in WWE, but I actually liked the killer version of Test, despite being completely juiced up. See, ECW was so bad I had to resort to calling Test entertaining during this time. MVP was still a fresh new heel & wouldn’t be played out for another couple years & then you had Finlay who had just been reintroduced on Smackdown, which I really enjoyed. Overall, as you’ll see in a couple teams from now, 3 of the 5 guys teamed the following year, but I enjoyed that team more than this one, so you can blame an out of shape Big Show & Test for the lower ranking.
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Post by scorejr on Oct 3, 2015 11:13:09 GMT -6
The Winger thing was great haha
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Post by randomone on Oct 6, 2015 15:37:03 GMT -6
Here we go, next 10.....
56. John Cena, Kane, Bobby Lashley, Sabu, Rob Van Dam (2006) This team was always strange to me was because seeing Sabu team with John Cena was something I never thought I’d see. I know earlier in the year they had a match, but teaming was a whole other story. With ECW-WE in full gear, they really had that brand fully represented. However, what I didn’t like & don’t like in any Survivor Series matches, is the streaky eliminations. At one point in this match I remember there being 5 eliminations in the span of 2 minutes (I watched this show recently, no way I remember it from 9 years ago otherwise), I hated that. It felt rushed, but you could see the potential star in Bobby Lashley during this match. He didn’t look out of place at all & looked like a star standing next to Cena as the 2 survivors on their team. I think you could say Lashley had the most untapped potential of a wrestler in quite some time. He never really achieved all that he could’ve before he just got up & left. That was a bummer, but for the time he was there, I found him entertaining.
55. Wade Barrett, Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger, Hunico, Dolph Ziggler (2011) Hunico is a 10000% better at being Sin Cara than Mistico was (although he has gotten more botchy-er lately), but this was during the time where Hunico was dressing like he was a character in Grand Theft Auto and it didn’t work. He did though take one of the snazziest RKO’s I’ve seen as he looked for a springboard off the top & fell right into it. It was great. Swagger & Ziggler had formed a nice little team of guys who should’ve been pushed, but instead were given heat magnet Vickie Guerrero to help get them over. Then you had Cody Rhodes, IC Champ, feuding with Randy Orton & was pushed how he friggin should be, as himself. Finally Team Captain Wade Barrett was in the midst of his Barrett Barrage, one of his many stupid incarnations (bare knuckle brawler & a king being the other), but when it was all said & done, Barrett & Cody survived, a smart choice at the time. Now only if they had actually continued pushing those two, all would’ve been right, but, they didn’t.
54. John Cena, Dolph Ziggler, Big Show, Rowan, Ryback (2014) WWE has the knack of making you super excited about the possibility of building a new superstar on one night, only to completely destroy it all in a weeks time. That’s exactly what happened with this team, as finally, for once, John Cena wasn’t the focal point of this match, Super Cena wasn’t the one to win the match & have the accolade while his teammates would get picked off one by one. Instead, Dolph Ziggler was the one to send the Authority packing……for a few weeks, until he was immediately an afterthought again & Cena was challenging for the World Title. It’s absolutely embarrassing how they dropped the ball with Ziggler & that’s exactly what they did. They can't blame him for not drawing, because he wasn't given a chance. They can't chalk this up to his injury history, because they put him in a fucking ladder match the next month! While his matches with Harper were great, it’s not where he should’ve been. You need more than 1 face to challenge all the heels, but WWE doesn’t get/nor want that apparently. The biggest win of Ziggler’s career (arguably) was shit on as he, the charisma vacuum Rowan & the equally unentertaining Big Guy were all fired? So incredibly stupid. I rank this team as high as I did because of the sheer historical factor of Cena not being the center of attention in this one, plus Dolph & Rollins completely tearing the house down when they were down to the end.
53. LOD, Ahmed Johnson, Ken Shamrock (1997) In what felt like year 8 of what would be a year & a half feud between Ahmed Johnson & the Nation of Domination, he was sadly in the stage I talked about earlier where he was injury prone & also couldn’t understand a damn thing he was saying on the microphone either. Luckily he didn’t have to talk much this night & could rely on the LOD & Kenny to pick up the slack. I thought Shamrock, for not having a ton of experience, filled the role incredibly well. This would really start the Rocky/Shamrock feud & both guys would look great in the process. Hawk & Animal were in the tag picture, but sort of out of it at the same time. Their weird feud with the Godwinns was finally over & they hadn’t started their feud with the Outlaws yet, so this was a transition period for the LOD. 4 dudes who just brawled, can’t complain much about that.
52. Yokozuna, Crush, Ludvig Borga, Quebecer Jacques (1993) The Foreign Fanatics, cheesy yet awesome team name for these guys. To be perfectly honest, had both The Quebecers been on this team instead of Crush, I might’ve ranked them 10-12 spots higher, but he wasn’t & instead we get a newly heel Crush, which was fine, except he had ZERO to do with any of these feuds (Fuji managed him, I guess) & instead was just a guy who ran away from Randy Savage. Borga was terrible in the ring, but his anti-American character was fitting for this team. Yoko was an absolute monster during this time & was in his prime as champ. Add Jim Cornette, Mr. Fuji & my favorite, Johnny Polo at ringside and all your bases are covered for a rad heel team. Not as rad as their opposition, but still, not bad.
51. Umaga, Mr. Kennedy, MVP, Finlay, Big Daddy V (2007) Like I said earlier, despite this team having 3 of the same guys on it as the year prior, I liked this team more due to Mr. Kennedy mainly. I hated the Big Daddy V reincarnation as seeing Big Vis without a shirt & suspenders was horrifying. Luckily that didn’t last much longer after this. I did however; enjoy Kennedy around this time, as he wasn’t injury prone or getting busted for roids. The motor mouth Kennedy during his first few years with the company was very entertaining & he, Finlay & MVP would team incredibly well on the Smackdown brand, but you throw in an animal like Umaga, they could have him be the unpredictable savage, which I always dug. Don’t know what is more terrifying though, clown Mabel or shirtless Big Daddy V? Hmmm…..
50. Hulk Hogan, Jake Roberts, Demolition (1989) Would there honestly have been any problem with Hogan & his team losing this match? I know builds weren’t a big thing back in these days, but wouldn’t you think if they’re wanting to build toward the Cage match they were pimping between Hogan/Beefcake vs Zeus/Savage that they would have Hogan/Zeus get counted out (the Hogan special) brawling & the only way to truly settle it would be in the cage? Then you could give someone like Ted Dibiase the win, have him brag about it & continue to build the Jake feud they were just starting. Have him steal a win. Instead, they went right back to the well & had Dibiase job to Hogan & the legdrop, so, despite being in the MIDDLE of the show, Hogan could get pose down time. Jake was super over & Demolition, tag champs, going into this thing solely played second fiddle (as did everyone) to the Hulkster. Crazy strong team, but again, the annoyance of Hogan’s selfishness once more keeps this team ranked a little low. Hell, you had Warrior end the show in a pose down! Do we truly need two of them?
49. Jake Roberts, Jimmy Snuka, Rockers (1990) Honestly, I had this team ranked about 20 spots lower until I re-watched this match recently, despite being a team who lost to an entire team, this was a pretty strong team, with the exception of Snuka, who was absolute filler. The Rockers, had it not been for a broken top rope against The Hart Foundation, would’ve most likely been tag team champions at this show, so it wasn’t like Shawn & Marty were an afterthought, instead, they’d go on to have an incredibly strong first half of 91. Meanwhile you had Jake, who was in the middle of one of the more entertaining feuds in the early 90s with Rick Martel & was in the middle of being blinded, so he wasn’t full strength in this one. 3 out of the 4 super over during this time, had to give them a bump in the ranks.
48. Edge, Christian, The Hardy Boyz (1999) Fresh off the heels of their career making T.I.T. Ladder match for the services of Terri Runnels, these four hadn’t really found their characters yet, other than the fact that they were 4 incredible up & comers. It’d be a few months before they became the well known teams that would steal the show, but fans took notice to them during this time. However, you could say I ranked them a little low and that might be, but during their match, like I said, coming off their huge ladder match, you had Matt & Jeff get pinned by Scotty 2 Hotty & GrandMaster Sexay. Made absolutely no sense whatsoever. Only sense I could make of this was maybe they didn’t want all the survivor series matches in 1999 be won by the face teams? Not sure, but it was a fun team, which could’ve been better.
47. Shawn Michaels, Kane, Big Show, Carlito, Chris Masters (2005) Team RAW in 2005 was a pretty awesome little team, during this time, all 5 guys were being showcased on Raw weekly & it really didn’t make you question the addition of any of the 5. Masters & Carlito had been in this little alliance & would continue into the new year, with Carlito fresh to the Raw roster & Masters still relatively newer to the brand, the young guys didn’t look out of place at all. Then Show & Kane were in the middle of being teamed up & were absolute monsters. Granted the tag division at this time was pretty weak (Cade/Murdoch being previous champs), whatever teams they did throw together didn’t stand a chance against these two. Of course you know when Shawn Michaels is your team captain, it’s going to at least be entertaining & that’s what this team was. Michaels fought his ass off for his team, but, like a couple years earlier, he came up short. Despite that, I really enjoyed this team in what seems like a forgotten Survivor Series.
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Post by randomone on Oct 10, 2015 20:05:05 GMT -6
Here we go, next 10, some of these I really had trouble placing because I really liked a few of them. Might be lower than they should be, but still.....
46. Randy Orton, Shelton Benjamin, William Regal, Cody Rhodes, Mark Henry (2008) With the exception of his 2011 World Title run, my favorite Mark Henry heel run was when he was ECW champ. ECW-WE was a guilty pleasure show for me to watch, as a bunch of young dudes were mixed in with a couple older guys & despite the lack of storylines, for what it was, it was entertaining to me. Henry was a solid champ until he started having to feud with Kane & Big Show, ugh. William Regal’s run as IC champ & his strange pairing with Layla I thought was great as well. There’s not much Regal has done that’s unentertaining in his career & this time was no different. Shelton was a ping pong ball during this time, because towards about the last 2-3 years of his run, he bounced around from Smackdown & ECW, having a couple feuds & that was it. One of the best pure wrestlers they’ve had, but he wasn’t a good talker & lacked charisma IMO. Legacy was a very underrated trio (before Manu & Deuce were added), a group that I thought really benefitted Cody & Dibiase as well as making Orton look strong as a head of a faction. Despite Dibiase not being in this, Cody & Orton teamed incredibly well & were the two survivors.
45. Earthquake, Haku, Dino Bravo, Barbarian (1990) I would’ve absolutely placed this team higher had the original member, Ravishing Rick Rude, not been replaced by Haku, who don’t get me wrong, is awesome, but c’mon, it’s Rude. Having him team with Quake, Bravo & Barbarian, especially to take on the team of Hogan, Duggan, Tugboat & Bossman, would’ve been great. To see Hogan get hit (and then no sell I’m sure) the Rude Awakening would be so awesome. Instead, we get the continuation of the Quake/Bravo feud with Hogan/Tugboat & Barbarian was there to fill the muscle dude spot. It was one of those missed opportunities because Rude left the WWF, but I would’ve liked to see the Bossman/Rude feud actually. He’s in my Top 10 all time favorite wrestlers, so Rude not in this match bummed me out, but even had he competed in this match, they wouldn’t have won sadly. Regardless, these 4 teamed well & The Natural Disasters team was one of my underrated favorites.
44. Seth Rollins, Rusev, Kane, Mark Henry, Luke Harper (2014) I absolutely hated the fallout from this match, but the build wasn’t entirely awful. I’m ranking this team as high as I am because Rollins was absolutely on fire during this time (still is in terms of in ring wrestling), Rusev was destroying people & not made to look like a total boob. Kane was fine, boring, but fine. Luke Harper is a fucking machine. Then there was Mark Henry, who I could’ve done without, luckily he was eliminated quickly. So these remaining 4 were pretty strong, you had Rollins able to hide behind these 3 monsters, while picking apart the others. The ending of this match was so incredibly well done it was ultimately heartbreaking that they dropped the ball the way that they did. I know they tend to fuck things up more often than not, but this one really stuck with me, not just because it was this past year, but because it was a different finish with Ziggler going over on Rollins.
43. HHH, Edge, Batista, Gene Snitsky (2004) Remember when Snitsky punted a toy baby? Remember when he caused Lita to have a miscarriage with Kane’s baby? Damn that’s some Days of Our Lives shit right there & not the bullshit Ziggler/Rusev/Lana/Summer dumb soap opera stuff today. How much more messed up could you make a guy right out of the gate? Perhaps the first bad decision on Snitsky was naming him Gene. I know it’s his real name, but there’s nothing about the name Gene that strikes fear into opponents. He had a good, psycho look to him and around this time he was new & still a beast. The foot fetish freak we’d know later wouldn’t be anywhere near this kind of match, so that’s a good thing at least. Edge was newly heel & about this time I’m sure he was helping Lita cheat on Matt Hardy. He wasn’t necessarily dirtbag Edge yet, but he was bitter heel Edge, which I was fine with. Batista was in the midst of breaking out from Evolution, but was being held back by Flair & Trips, you could see the dissention was forming between Batista & his running buddies, but he looked ridiculously strong in this. Trips I hated at this time, he was having World title reigns just for the sake of bumping up his overall number of reigns. Completely pointless. Great team though.
42. The Dudleyz & The Hardyz (2000) It’s scary to think what the tag team division would be like in the WWF had it not been for the Hardyz, Dudleyz & Edge and Christian. All three revolutionized the division & were always the teams they could count on for great matches. When these four dudes teamed up in 2000, they were still both super over, but again, poor showings by Matt & D-Von, who were eliminated rather quickly by Edge & Christian. Ultimately Jeff Hardy survived, which was incredibly odd, because they weren’t tag champs, nor were they challenging for them soon (I looked it up, they did wrestle for them at Rebellion, the UK only PPV), so other than to just get the face pop, I can’t explain why they felt Jeff of all people needed to go over. Regardless, when you had Matt, Jeff, Bubba & D-Von all together as a team, that’s a strong team, especially when they were at their hottest.
41. IRS, Diesel, Rick Martel, Adam Bomb (1993) This was the perfect 1993 team to me, ridiculous gimmicks, solid wrestlers & guys who I felt should’ve been pushed more as heels during this time where gimmicks ruled the world. IRS I’ve said before was a very underrated heel, who made this character absolutely work. His name was IRS & he was a tax man, yet, at least for me, I just saw him as a really good bad guy, doing his job to perfection. Same could be said for Rick Martel, who would take breaks from time to time & wouldn’t really get highlighted like he should’ve. The two guys I want in the WWE Hall of Fame are Rick Rude & Rick Martel, both are amazing athletes & with Martel, even with the Model gimmick, he was incredibly entertaining. Adam Bomb was the stupid, yet entertaining characters the mid 90s were based on. Was he ever going to win the title? Hell no, but whatever his character was, the guy from 3 Mile Island, I thought was good for what it was. On this night, Diesel was nowhere close to being Big Daddy Cool, he was just a dude in leather who was the bodyguard of HBK. He was less than a year removed from WCW, yet he didn’t look out of place at all. Really dug this heel team.
40. Batista, Rey Mysterio, JBL, Lashley, Randy Orton (2005) Team Smackdown I preferred more in this match as it was a group of more established guys (Carlito & Masters on RAW were relatively new) as Orton came out this match looking like a stud, only to then run into Taker as the show drew to a close. Perhaps the most memorable image of this match to me was the Smackdown roster was celebrating with Orton in the ring & The Dicks (remember that team? No, it’s ok) had him raised up on their shoulders. That was a pretty fitting image for the time, because Orton himself, was a dick to most people. Back to the team, Batista was in the middle of cementing himself as the top face on Smackdown, while JBL was still a top heel. You had a young gun in Lashley, who fit right in with these guys. Then Rey, who, again, was healthy in November & was as popular as ever. I really dug this match & both teams were solid, I just liked Smackdown more.
39. HHH, Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio, Kane (2007) Apparently Matt Hardy was supposed to be on this team, but couldn’t compete due to “injury” at the time. I’m completely fine with that, because he would’ve been the 5th wheel on this one, as this team was pretty much to showcase Triple H & Jeff Hardy. Both Kane & Mysterio were eliminated relatively early, but the reason I put this team so high was because of the absolute dominant performance by Trips & Hardy. They were at a 5 on 2 disadvantage & ran through their entire opposition. This was during the time where Triple H was slumming it on Smackdown, during a time, where I really enjoyed him. I was always a bigger fan of Smackdown in terms of wrestling, so he was having some pretty darn good matches as champion on that brand (minus the Great Khali feud). This was also the time where Jeff Hardy could be called the most over guy in the company. He was absolutely on fire during this time & would be a month away from winning the World title. Could be the most dominant performance by a two man team in history. ******Apparently I was completely off & was a year off of everything I thought happened. Triple H was on Raw still, Hardy was IC champ & a year away from winning the World title. Oh well, still a rad team & quite frankly, I wrote this up & don't want to re-write another one.******
38. Brock Lesnar, Big Show, Matt Morgan, Nathan Jones, A-Train (2003) This could be the biggest hoss team in Survivor Series history. While Nathan Jones & Matt Morgan’s WWE runs was a complete bust, they were visually impressive when they came in as Heyman’s Henchmen, but aside from that, they contributed absolutely nothing. Jones left the company a week or so later saying the travel was what made him quit. Meanwhile you had Matt Morgan, who had a lot more potential than Jones did, kind of get shafted during this run, because he was a henchman, nothing else. Then again, so was A-Train, but he was a more established henchman. Sadly A-Train was terrible in this match, lasting less than a minute. Pretty much Brock & Show carried this team, as Show, despite being pretty out of shape for the time, was the new US champ & had just destroyed Eddie Guerrero for the title. Then you had WWE Champ Lesnar, who was in the middle of having a pretty unforgettable heel run. I never really bought the 2nd Brock heel turn. This team however, in terms of visually, could be one of the best, but in terms of overall performance, eh, not so much.
37. Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Koko B. Ware, Hillbilly Jim, Hercules (1988) Let’s face it, this was a 2 man team. They could’ve put The Mega Powers against all 5 other dudes & they both would’ve survived. Hillbilly Jim & Koko were doing absolutely nothing at this point and were just there to fill the role of gimmick guys. Hercules actually sort of had some reasoning to be in this match, as he was in a little feud with Ted Dibiase, so you could explain that at least. This was, yet again, the Hogan show, only this time; it was also Randy Savage as well. I loved the Mega Powers as a kid, Macho Man was my guy & I really started watching wrestling as a kid a few years after this. So when I discovered The Mega Powers, my mind blew up as a child. The pure awesomeness of the two biggest stars in the company was great. Only thing that annoyed the shit out of me watching this again, was Savage got the shit beat out of him, Hogan un-cuffs himself with help of Elizabeth, then makes the save for the win. My annoyance of Hogan put aside, seeing the Mega Powers together was great, so they get the bump.
Next 10 coming probably on Tuesday, depends on how boring RAW gets. Who am I kidding, next 10 will definitely be on Tuesday.
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Post by scorejr on Oct 11, 2015 11:11:21 GMT -6
Randomone Sir, you are a force of nature.
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Post by randomone on Oct 13, 2015 19:26:47 GMT -6
36. Randy Orton, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Maven (2004) This team, for the most part, was a 3 man team, as Maven had gotten his ass kicked prior to the match by Snitsky, but he made it down to the ring eventually…..only to get beaten up again by Snitsky. Only other disappointment of this team was Benoit, who, despite having a great World title run earlier in the year, was the first one eliminated off his team, just 7 minutes into this thing. So pretty much Jericho & Orton were the ones fighting for their team. Orton of course was meant to look like the star in this one, despite his title reign being totally shit upon by Triple H a few months prior. This should’ve been a higher ranked team, but 2 of the 4 guys had poor showings. Can’t give them anymore help.
35. Edge, Randy Orton, Johnny Nitro, Mike Knox, Gregory Helms (2006) Mike Knox had one good thing going for him, he had 19 year old smoking hot Kelly Kelly as his girlfriend. He lasted I think 10 seconds tops in this match in a pretty funny spot with HBK hitting Sweet Chin Music & asking if the ref had even started the match. It was an odd, but high profile spot for Gregory Helms, who didn’t really look out of place in this match at all, except for the fact that his heel character was as generic as it gets (his titantron is historic for being the best/worst titantron ever, watch that shit immediately). Nitro was still going strong in the IC title picture with Melina by his side, teamed very well with Rated RKO, the best heels on the Raw roster during this time. I really enjoyed the Edge & Orton team, they were great dickheads on their own, but together, it was even better. Overall this team for the most part was great, but their opponents, like I’ve said quite a few times before, were on a whole other level of awesome during this time.
34. Nation of Domination (1997) Faarooq, D’Lo Brown, Kama Mustafa & the newly named Rock. Right before this time the now former Rocky Maivia had changed his name to The Rock & the rest is history. I loved the Nation of Domination during this time, sure as hell liked them more than the D.O.A. & Los Boricuas and the 4 man group was my favorite because Mark Henry & Owen hadn’t come into the picture yet. Don’t get me wrong, I liked them in the group, I just thought the 4 man group was stronger. The Rock really started getting going during this time & it wouldn’t be until a month or two later where he’d start moving Faarooq out of the leader role. Faarooq was still the talker, so Rock would only get to throw in a couple jabs here & there, which was fine at the time. Kama & D’Lo were great backup before they started actually getting characters of their own.
33. Razor Ramon, 123 Kid, British Bulldog, Fatu, Sionne (1994) The good guy team was named The Bad Guys & I really did like this team, unfortunately, they all ran into a fucking truck named Diesel & the night belonged to him. We’ll get to them later, but for this team, the Kid & Razor had become buddies, so they teamed well. Bulldog was back in the picture with his new long hair that always kind of creeped me out. Then you have Fatu & new Headshrinker Sionne, who, I loved they never even mentioned was previously The Barbarian. I mean it had only been 2 years & I know he wasn’t super memorable, but on the other hand, Barbarian was a decent heel from 88 til 92. Going from a beard to a goatee & a name change isn’t enough for even a young kid like me to not know it was him. C’mon Vince, give the fans a little credit, you weren’t a dick yet, at least not on TV. Anyways, this was a good team, but they never stood a chance.
32. Big Bossman, Akeem, Ted Dibiase, Haku, Red Rooster (1988) One of these things is not like the other……looking at you Red Rooster. I don’t know what Vince was thinking when one, making Terry Taylor the Red Rooster (Caw…Caw…Caaawwww) and two, making him heel & putting him with the best manager in the history of the business, Bobby Heenan. I know, gives him instant credibility being associated with top heels, but man, when you cluck, you’re fucked. It’s not like Terry Taylor is a bad wrestler, if anything, he’s underrated, but this gimmick screwed him over from the start. He went with it, to his credit, but damn. On the contrary, you look at the One Man Gang, make him the African Dream, you’d assume it’d be stupid, but it’s one of my all time favorite characters from the 80s. The Twin Towers were an incredibly underrated team, who did amazingly well for the time they were together, but I thought they should’ve been tag champs at some point (not Andre & Haku). Haku you could always rely on for putting on solid matches & it doesn’t hurt being the toughest wrestler ever. Bossman was a beast, but it did seem like Ted Dibiase was a complete afterthought on this team. He was feuding with Hercules, big whoop. Giant step back from feuding for the WWF title. The way Bossman was eliminated was a joke, counted out for handcuffing Savage? Akeem’s elimination was an even bigger joke, eliminated for double teaming Savage. What a bullshit way for Savage & Hogan to survive. A running trend for the Hulkster.
31. Cody Rhodes, Goldust, The Usos, Rey Mysterio (2013) Probably asking yourself, what the hell are you doing ranking a team with Mysterio on it from 2013? Answer is simple, everyone BUT him on this team was fantastic during this time. The Rhodes Brothers team was a personal favorite of mine, one that didn’t go nearly as long as it should, but damn was it fun while it lasted. Their rivalry vs The Shield made them red hot & add the Usos to the mix; it was a fantastic team, with one exception. It always seemed like Rey was healthy in November & December, outside of that, he was always hurt. Despite that, 4 out of the 5 on this team I was a huge fan of at the time (I’ve cooled on the Usos), had they had an awesome #5 on this team, I don’t see why I couldn’t have bumped them up a few spots more.
30. Miz, Drew McIntyre, Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger (2009) Say what you want about these guys now, but in 2009, this was a very impressive young gun team. Swagger was still fresh on the Raw brand, pre-MITB win & eventual World title run. Ziggler was solid on Smackdown, having just dumped Maria (stupid move). Sheamus was absolutely slaughtering guys & was the fresh destroyer coming over from ECW & the following month would win the WWE title. McIntyre hadn’t been completely ruined yet & was still The Chosen One. Then The Miz, who was team captain & was in the process of outshining John Morrison after their breakup. 4 out of 5 guys on this team would go on to hold the WWE or World Heavyweight titles & on this night they teamed amazingly well & you could tell they had young guys to work off of in the future. Did they all pan out? No & that’s unfortunate that WWE dropped the ball, but on this night, they were an incredibly entertaining team. Definitely go back & check this team out, because they totally outclass their opponents.
29. Randy Savage, Dino Bravo, Greg Valentine, Canadian Earthquake (1989) Macho King Randy Savage was a fantastic heel & having Sherri by his side was even better. Granted I know Savage & Elizabeth were awesome in their own right, but I really feel Savage & Sherri’s heel run together is overlooked, they were amazing. Then you had Dino Bravo, who, at that time, desperately needed a boost to his character & would get one in the newly dubbed Canadian Earthquake (subbing for the Widow Maker Barry Windham, who bailed), who was one of my all time favorite big men in wrestling. He moved around incredibly well & was a friggin’ monster, especially when he first came in & annihilated everybody. The guy sat on his opponents chest as his finisher for God sake, unless your name was Hulk Hogan, no one was getting up from that. Despite the odd pairing of Savage & these three, they all were fantastic together as a team. Only Valentine had to eat a stupid clothesline by Duggan, but other than that, Bravo, Quake & Savage all survived. Completely outclassed & outmatched their opponents, which wasn’t hard, since it was captained by Duggan (sorry Hitman).
28. Shawn Michaels, Ahmed Johnson, British Bulldog, Sycho Sid (1995) I miss the days when Ahmed Johnson was this powerhouse in the ring, didn’t talk much, just beat up other power guys like Bulldog & Yokozuna. That lasted until mid 1996, then he started in with the injuries & they gave him a microphone for promos & you would need subtitles to understand him. During his first year in the WWF though, he wasn’t bad at all & teaming him with established guys like this, only helped him out. He put on a strong showing, surviving & looked like he could pose as backup to Shawn Michaels if needed in the future. Sycho Sid did what he did best at this time, beat the shit out of Shawn. Bulldog as a heel with Cornette managing him was my favorite, he was hilarious jumping up & down with him like they had just won the World title after they survived. Pretty good Team #1 in the awkward, yet very entertaining Wild Card match of 95. Which leads me to……
27. Yokozuna, Owen Hart, Razor Ramon, Dean Douglas (1995) The losing team of said Wild Card match, yet the team I found more entertaining of the two. Dean Douglas was one of many who got dicked over by the Kliq, but during his time in the WWF, his feud with Razor brought on some good matches, so teaming them together was pretty entertaining for sure. Add to that the always awesome team of Yoko & Owen and you have Razor pretty much on the outside looking in, which I felt was great storytelling. How could Razor trust his teammates? How could they trust Razor? Ultimately they couldn’t as Razor would lead to Douglas being eliminated, again, burying Douglas quickly in the match, but for the time it lasted in this match, it was great. I wish they would do a Wild Card match again, but I don’t think it’ll ever happen.
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Post by November KS on Oct 13, 2015 20:45:27 GMT -6
Greatest thread of all time. Have you ever wrote for any site, randomone. You are unreal.
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