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Post by randomone on Jan 12, 2019 15:06:51 GMT -6
Top 10, here we go!
10. Royal Rumble 2010 This is a great Royal Rumble as it had a solid group of guys, legit threats, a shock winner & return no one saw coming as early as it did, everything really. You get a hot start with Ziggler & Evan Bourne, then immediately we get to the CM Punk run as he’d cut promos about the Straight Edge lifestyle in between tossing job guys like JTG until we got to The Great Khali, who ultimately got eliminated by Beth Phoenix, who her herself got eliminated by Punk, who also destroyed Zack Ryder before going back to promo time. Then we got a Punk/HHH showdown and I dug it for the brief time we got it until Hunter got the shovel and eliminated (buried) Punk. Cut to #18 and HBK is out and we get DX going strong until Cena is out next, the big guns are out as SHAWN ELIMINATED HUNTER!! HBK had tunnel vision on wanting another match with Taker that he would let nothing stop him. I did like the odd spot of having R-Truth eliminate Big Show & Henry together. Those weird spots are something that’s missing in current Rumble matches. It was weird & I loved it. We had guys like Chris Jericho, Kofi, a returning Edge & Batista to cap off the entrants and that’s a loaded field for 2010. Edge got revenge on Jericho eliminating him to a huge pop as we then had HBK eliminated by Batista and the match and crowd come to a halt as HBK is heartbroken (pun intended) he’s not getting Taker (or so we thought). So pissed, HBK superkicks Lil’ Naitch and storms to the back. It’s down to Edge, Cena & Batista as we got our seeds planted for Mania as Cena tossed Batista, then Edge eliminated Cena to give him the shock win. This was a surprise because Jericho wasn’t World champ yet, so it was totally unpredictable that Edge would win this in his return. I loved it. This match set the stage for 3 of your major matches at Mania all in one match. Some slow spots, but aside from that, great Rumble match.
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Post by randomone on Jan 13, 2019 15:55:09 GMT -6
9. Royal Rumble 2018 (men’s) Boy there is an awful lot to complain about with the WWE product especially over the last few years. Their inability to book babyfaces, the constant beatings of anyone cheered by fans, breaking up duos who are over with the fans, dumb/silly storylines that make no sense, I could go on, however on this night, they got it right. The Rumble itself has more often than not fallen into the boring category over the years, it’s a match the crowd loves to shit on. Luckily Rusev & Balor were out to start which guarantees the crowd won’t boo either man. After a bit we get Andrade Almas, fresh off his Takeover match the previous night and until Nakamura came out at 14, not much happened aside from Tye Dillinger getting destroyed by KO & Zayn so Sami could have a spot in the match. Big names like Rollins, Cena, Orton, Miz, a returning Rey Mysterio and Adam Cole BAY-BAY all enter and it’s a pretty fun Rumble at that point. Yes it was slow to start, but it had enough juice to get through the slow parts. The momentum didn’t stop dead like previous years. However, Roman was out at 28 and the crowd booed heavily as per tradition. The Royal Rumble match is really the one match each year that causes Roman to be this massive heel whether they want him to be or not. Since 2015 he had been labeled as “the guy” so since the crowd didn’t want that, of course they’d boo him, he was screwed one way or another. Anyways Goldust at 29 and Ziggler, who, at 30, hasn’t had a strong Rumble showing since I think 2012 or 13 (I’m not looking it up)? Ziggler stays in for like 2 minutes and is dumped every year it seems. Anyways I loved the ending as Balor, Reigns, Nakamura, Rey, Cena & Orton remained. Orton was out, so no repeat luckily, Rey was next and then we get the crowd chanting that both Cena & Roman sucks. Cena tosses Balor, then Nakamura dumps Cena and we get a Shinsuke Nakamura & Roman Reigns face off. The crowd was nuts for this as it’s the guy they love vs the guy Vince loves. I did love the tease of Roman winning it, I’ll admit it, I’d been trained to be disappointed in this match, so I bit. Luckily Nakamura hit a Kinshasa and eliminated The Big Dog to take it. Say what you want about how boring the current product might be, but this was a highlight of 2018. One that gets overshadowed due to the historical significance of the 1st Female Rumble and the fact that Nakamura lost at Mania (and the entire feud with AJ).
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Post by randomone on Jan 14, 2019 13:37:17 GMT -6
8. Royal Rumble 2016
With the previous 2 years being absolute garbage in terms of giving the fans what they want, I was prepared for the absolute worst heading into this, especially since they put Roman in at #1. Luckily AJ Styles turned it around quickly at #3 and the crowd went ballistic. Then we got Chris Jericho at #6, so if you thought we’d see these 3 guys in the ring together heading into the night, well done, because I didn’t. I’ll be honest, we entered a slow period much earlier than we should’ve with guys like Kane, Goldust, Ryback, Kofi, Titus, but honestly the appeal of AJ Styles finally being in the WWE made up for it. Truth did his comedy spot thinking it was a ladder match, which I thought was funny. We got the Kofi spot where Big E caught him on his shoulders (BUT KEVIN DUNN MISSED THE SHOT OF HIM GETTING ELIMINATED!!) At this point the League of Nations (remember them?) took out Roman on the outside at Vince’s orders and he got taken to the back (TAKEN TO THE BACK IN A RUMBLE MATCH!!), which is dumb, but it got Roman out of the match for a bit so we didn’t have to hear constant booing, which had become the soundtrack to this match for the past few years. The match picked up once Kevin Owens came out and Sami Zayn showed up at 20 and they beat the crap out of each other before Sami got the best of him. Brock in at 23 and everyone gets beaten badly until he’d ultimately get eliminated by the entire Wyatt Family, which was pointless in the long run since the Mania match wasn’t Brock/Wyatt but Brock/Ambrose in the match where Brock didn’t try. There was a pre-show match where the winning tag team of a 4 team match got to be in the Rumble, which I actually really liked that idea. However, the teams were The Ascension, The Dudleys (who were so down on the card it was embarrassing), Darren Young & Damien Sandow (ok) and Jack Swagger & Mark Henry (why not?) and Swagger & Henry won. Cut to the match and they were in for a COMBINED 1:02. So that was a giant waste of time. Miraculously Roman returned from his breather before #30 comes out (how fitting) and starts eliminating guys until out comes Triple H to no one’s surprise. So it came down to Sheamus, Ambrose, Roman & Trips. The Celtic Warrior was out when he missed a Brogue Kick, then to the shock of everyone, Roman was eliminated by Hunter leaving it to Trips & Ambrose. We knew there wasn’t a shot in hell Ambrose winning, so ultimately Hunter won the match & the title setting up Roman/Trips at Mania. The match was slow in spots, but AJ being in there like I said, made up for it. The rest of the match was entertaining and I actually liked the finish (if they were going with Roman/Trips at Mania, this was how to do it, regardless of whether I wanted that as the main event or not). Roman should’ve been in the match the whole time because having him take a breather made him look like a wuss, like when Mr. McMahon took time off in 1999 and won. Austin was taken out mid Rumble that same year, but he was taken out in a friggin ambulance, not helped to the back walking with refs! Maybe I ranked this one higher than it should due to how awful the last few years had been, but the positives far outweighed the negatives in this one.
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Post by randomone on Jan 15, 2019 15:13:16 GMT -6
7. Royal Rumble 2003 This was such an enjoyable Rumble from start to finish as you started off with the heated Jericho/HBK feud as Christian posed as Y2J to distract Shawn long enough for Jericho to beat the living shit out of him and bloody him up before tossing him FIRST. It was a shock that HBK would be eliminated immediately in a match he’d won twice, but it brought the heat on Jericho for their feud and I loved it. You had some young guns like Mysterio, Edge, Christian, Chavo, then a few lower card guys like Dreamer, Hugh Morrus, B2 (BOO-YA!!), then pick it up again with RVD, Eddie and The Hardys. It was the perfect balance and it wasn’t at a time when the Rumble was this long drawn out deal or watered down by surprise/comedy entrants. Both RAW & Smackdown had a pretty evenly balanced roster for this match and I liked how they were spread out in this. Some notable moments were the Jericho/HBK spot, poor Chris Nowinski having his face smushed by a mistimed Edge/Mysterio top rope dropkick, Tommy Dreamer put a massive welt on Jericho’s face with a kendo stick shot (Jericho got him back with a brutal shot to the head), John Cena doing a rap prior to his entrance ("you can't approach this, I'll be choking you like Sprewell be choking coaches" was my favorite line), Maven thinking he eliminated Taker two years in a row, but failed miserably this time. Brief glimpses of future heavy hitters like Cena and Batista, then have Brock Lesnar win it, last eliminating Taker to stamp his ticket to face Kurt Angle in a Mania classic. This whole show really gets remembered for how epic Benoit/Angle was and how comically bad Steiner/Triple H was, so the actual Rumble tends to get forgotten, but it shouldn’t. It's a really enjoyable Rumble match, one that should be talked about far more than it does, which is barely ever.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Jan 15, 2019 15:59:29 GMT -6
23. Royal Rumble 1990 This could be another entry were I just write Hogan Must Pose and move on, but unlike the 91 Rumble, there was a major occurrence that happened in this, the highly anticipated face off between Hogan & Warrior, something that set the stage for the Ultimate Showdown at Mania. I loved the irony of them clearing the ring leading to the face off and Shawn Michaels was one of them quickly tossed, one of the future GOATs was in for like 12 seconds. The face off was everything you'd want because for the most part, they never swung or anything, instead they opted for running the ropes (testing cardio, really? With Warrior??) and then hit double clotheslines on each other. That was it, but it was all that was needed to make the fans want this showdown at Mania, so that was the only thing this Rumble needed to accomplish. I always wished Mr. Perfect had won this match, it meant nothing for Hogan to win, but would've meant a lot for Perfect. You could've have Warrior & Hogan tumble out together and have them eliminate each other. Instead the show must end with Hogan posing, so I get it, I didn't like it (at the time I loved it, don't get me wrong), but I understood.
I know I'm late to this party, but Rumble '90 is my personal favorite of all time. I think the roster in 1990 is even deeper than the likely #1 entry on your list. I've heard a lot of fans championing Mr. Perfect winning here but honestly, being a Warrior mark, I always felt like Warrior winning would have made the most sense here. I feel like the Royal Rumble winner should be the guy getting the rocket push, and in January 1990 Warrior was damn near God status. I love Mr. Perfect, but Vince never had any intention of pushing him past the IC Title level, so a Rumble win would have been wasted on him. Plus, this is during the era where pay per views pretty much always ended with a babyface victory celebration. If I were booking, I'd have Warrior, Rude, Hogan, and Perfect as the final four. Have Hogan eliminate Perfect. Perfect jumps back on the apron and pulls Hogan out for the elimination then runs away, leaving Rude and Warrior as the last two. Since Rude and Warrior already have history from the previous year, the crowd would likely be apeshit. Have them go at it for a bit, with Warrior hulking up after taking a Rude Awakening. After Warrior's comeback sequence, Warrior press slams Rude over the top rope for the win. Meanwhile, you can show Hogan in the isle jealously glaring in the ring at Warrior as if to say, "You stole my win, brother." That would be a good way to foreshadow WrestleMania 6.
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Post by randomone on Jan 16, 2019 16:06:44 GMT -6
6. Royal Rumble 2002 This might be the Rumble that’s rated higher than it should, but I’ve always loved this one. From the returns, the shocking moments, the big names, the end, I loved it. Hell, even though Kid Rock is all kinds of awful, I did like that Cocky was the theme as the video package leading up with all the heavy hitters in the WWF showed you just how stacked this show was with talent. Goldust, Val Venis, The Godfather & Mr. Perfect all returned after being gone for a while (some much longer than others) & I loved how Perfect made the final 4, thought it was funny how Godfather spent his whole 2 minutes bringing ladies out, only to get tossed quick, Val was fine & Goldy was as well. Then we got to Maven, the Tough Enough winner who had the most shocking elimination ever in Rumble history. Undertaker was a damn badass here as his Red Devil gimmick, he had just destroyed nearly the entire 1st 1/4 of the field, then The Hardys & Lita, so we just assumed Maven would be next on the hit list, but instead, we get Maven hitting a perfect dropkick eliminating Taker. JR on the call made this even better and it still remains one of my favorite eliminations. We’d then get the Stone Cold run eliminating a handful of guys until Triple H came out. I don’t think there’s been a better series of vignettes building for someone’s return from injury than the Triple H/U2 videos. I love U2, so seeing this video set to Desire was absolutely perfect. Cut to the MSG return and the crowd was insane, so it made complete sense for Trips to win this whole thing. The Hurricane looking to eliminate both Austin & Hunter will always be a hilarious visual too. I do like how they saved a ton of heavy hitters for the 2nd half as you ended the match with guys like Austin, Angle, Trips, RVD, Booker, Show, Kane and while some of them didn’t last long, I do like them getting all the lower level guys out of there first. Sure Triple H was the obvious choice, but its better he has to win it against the best instead of winning against 1 or 2 of the best, if that makes sense. The pop was huge, the ending with Angle was well done & despite having a dumb storyline for Mania, Trips won the title to cap off a historic return.
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Post by randomone on Jan 18, 2019 11:11:00 GMT -6
Skipped a day yesterday, my fault. You guys get 2 today.
5. Royal Rumble 2004 This is another Rumble where the story was about one guy and how he’d be able to defeat the odds that were stacked against him. Chris Benoit was on the outs with Paul Heyman on Smackdown, so Benoit was given the #1 spot and had to prove he could win the big one to earn a shot at the main event of WrestleMania, so having RAW’s young gun in Randy Orton as number 2 was perfect. I did like how we got these two alone from time to time after they had dumped guys like Mark Henry, Bradshaw & Rhyno, we did get a ridiculous amount of RAW guys after that (7 of the next 9 guys were RAW) and they weren’t threats that stuck around long. Cut to around entrant 19 when Kurt Angle came out and we got Benoit/Orton/Kurt tossing fools like Ernest Miller, who had a dance break with his buddy Lamont, which, I’d be lying if I said I didn’t laugh my ass off when Lamont got tossed over the top by Benoit, but not before Benoit launched Lamont’s wig into the crowd first by mistake. Tazz was going nuts on commentary, which I thought was hilarious. Anyways, Mick Foley attacked Test backstage to get his spot in the match and go after Randy and then we got heavy hitters for the most part to end the match. With the exception of poor Nunzio, who was hiding a majority of the time, only to get murdered by Goldberg, who would himself get tossed by Brock to set up their Mania stinker. I did like the final four of Jericho, Kurt, Show & Benoit. Of course it had to be Big Show that Benoit had to get passed to win this thing and grabbing a guillotine, pulling Show over the top was pretty great at the time and I really liked the finish. For obvious reasons this match is never referenced, but it doesn’t take away that it was an excellent Rumble match that told a fantastic underdog story. Not to mention keeping that story going throughout the match made the few down moments not as boring as most Rumble's go.
4. Royal Rumble 2007 It’s weird, I’ve read some reviews of this show and some have said they didn’t enjoy this Rumble all that much and I couldn’t disagree more. I liked damn near everything about this one. We start with Flair & Finlay, two of the most respected veterans on the roster and then we get Kenny at 3, the cocky upstart who had been feuding with Flair. We get Matt Hardy & Edge next to reignite their feud, we get some ECW guys and Sabu is there to set up a table just so Kane can chokeslam him through it perfectly. The ECW guys not named CM Punk really didn’t last long as Sandman lasted 10 seconds, but really, you’re there for his awesome entrance, so I was fine with it. I liked how The Hardys & Rated RKO went at it, with the heels getting the upper hand tossing them both out. We get another lull with The Vampire, Viscera, Hardcore Holly, then get saved by HBK, as the crowd is on fire for him as he goes on an elimination spree in his hometown. Once The Great Khali comes out and chucks guys like Miz, Benoit, Punk, Holly, RVD, Carlito, Chavo, I mean, he tossed 7 guys in under 3 minutes using primarily only chops. This was back when Khali was still considered a threat and not a comedy act, so Khali clearing the ring in order for Taker to come out at 30 to eliminated The Punjabi Playboy was fine by me. We had Orton, Edge, Taker & HBK as the final four, easily the four top guys in this thing. We get a really fun back and forth and teases before HBK eliminates both heels and we’re down to Shawn & Taker. Now, this is why I’ve ranked it so high because instead of a few back & forth seconds, then a finish, no, we get an actual match between the two with the crowd really behind Shawn. I loved this as it’s really something we never got before, at least not with this caliber of wrestlers. Both guys teased getting eliminated as they fought on the apron, on the ropes, then Shawn hit his usual moves, but Taker blocked the Chin Music with a chokeslam. Taker went for a Tombstone, but HBK wiggles free, wham Sweet Chin Music, goes for it again and gets eliminated by going to the well one too many times. While the fans wanted Shawn and didn’t like Taker winning, I loved every seconds of this finish, I think the best finish in Rumble history. I honestly don’t care if the crowd was pissed, give me a break, it’s Undertaker (and he's from Texas too!), not to mention Shawn was primed for Cena anyway since Triple H got hurt the previous show. So Taker and HBK both got their Mania title shots.
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Post by Optimisn on Jan 18, 2019 14:16:51 GMT -6
The 2004 Rumble is definitely worth watching again. Also the Prichard Show topic this week.
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Post by randomone on Jan 19, 2019 14:58:32 GMT -6
3. Royal Rumble 2001 Another Rumble where there were a couple real contenders to take this thing and we’re at such a loaded point of the WWF roster that it really was anyone’s guess as to who would take it, could Stone Cold make his comeback complete and win this to go to Mania? Could The Rock win this? Maybe The Undertaker? Then there’s Kane, who set an all time record of eliminations at the time and became a real threat too. Of course the other threat was Drew Carey (or Drew Curry if you’re Tiger Ali Singh, who found out one of Lo’Down was being replaced by Drew), one of my all time favorite celebrity appearances ever. The brief interaction with Kane was fantastic as Drew didn’t take a bump, yet still made the most of his cameo, including waving bye to the crowd before bailing as soon as Raven saved him from Kane's clutches. We had a brief hardcore brawl with guys like Raven, Blackman, Al Snow, Saturn, but they all got crushed by Kane as well, which I loved. As did The Honky Tonk Man, who made his return for one night. Then we got down to business for the second half as The Rock did work, Big Show returned, we got poor Scotty 2 Hotty getting obliterated by The Brothers of Destruction, Haku popped up despite still being WCW Hardcore champ I think, then we had Triple H bloody Austin badly before his entrance, stacking the deck against Stone Cold even more. I honestly thought Austin/Trips would be at Mania, so The Rock was my pick when I watched this live, I thought they’d go back to back. So I was surprised to see Austin pull this out and outlast Kane, who had dumped out The Rock. He had to slay the monster who had seemingly ran through damn near everyone up to that point. I dug this whole Rumble, it was fun, set the stage for one of the best WrestleMania main events ever (at least one half, since The Rock would win the title the next month). I was totally fine with Austin winning for the 3rd time in 5 years. 97 was a heel stealing one, 98 was a mega star in the making, 01 was the comeback of the franchise of the WWF. Each one had a different story behind it.
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Post by randomone on Jan 20, 2019 10:51:45 GMT -6
2. Royal Rumble 2008 This might surprise you, but this was a lot closer than you’d think with the final 2 on this list. After re-watching this Rumble again within the last few weeks, I was blown away by how entertaining it was. You only hear about the huge return at the finish, but the rest of the match I loved. You start with the final 2 from last year in HBK & Taker, after a bit of comedy to follow (Santino, Khali), you get another heavy hitter in Batista a few guys later and we get a pretty enjoyable Rumble after that (if you discount the Hornswoggle stuff, but at this point it wasn’t played out yet, so I’m fine with it). We got a final face off with Jimmy Snuka and Roddy Piper at MSG, the match stopped as the guys in the ring just watched 2 legends go at it for a minute. Shawn got revenge for the previous year and tossed Taker, only to get eliminated by Mr. Kennedy immediately after. The only real dumb part of the match was Finlay coming out a little early to save Hornswoggle from getting beat up & was thus DISQUALIFIED, one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. They said it was from “jumping the gun” which is so dumb since we’ve had guys do that before, not to mention people have used weapons before. I’m spending way too much time bitching about this, so let’s move on. You had Triple H enter at 29 and thought it was his match to lose at this point as he eliminated 6 guys ultimately, but then you got arguably the biggest surprise in Rumble history as John Cena enters at 30 to blow everyone’s minds. This wasn’t a spoiled return, this was completely unexpected as Cena was supposed to be out for MONTHS longer, but instead, we get a legit shocking return. You don’t have many of those anymore in pro wrestling as everything is spoiled, but I remember watching this live at the time and having a legit Holy Shit reaction. Trips & Cena had a good back & forth before Cena ultimately won it. I really loved everything about this match. There was minimal down time, only a brief moment of “WTF? That makes no sense”, it was bookended by 4 of the all time greats & the highlights were wonderful. It just doesn’t compare to the #1 Rumble in history.
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Post by randomone on Jan 21, 2019 23:02:21 GMT -6
1. Royal Rumble 1992 Those of you who know me should’ve known this was coming as soon as you saw I was making another Countdown. I’ve said countless times that 1992 was my favorite year in the WWF as it was the year I really became an obsessed wrestling fan as a kid. There’s not a better way to kick off the year than by having not only the greatest performance in Rumble match history, but the greatest play by play. I honestly don’t know if this would take the top spot if Gorilla & Bobby weren’t on the call. Heenan was on another level in this one as it was the best I had ever heard him as Flair was his boy & had to jump through every possible hoop to win the big one. That’s exactly what he did as Naitch went through guys like the Bulldog, HBK, Tito, Tornado, Valentine, Boss Man, Piper, which was all in the first half of the match. Brain thanking Roddy for saving Flair “it’s not a skirt, it’s a kilt!” then two seconds later “you skirt wearing freak!”. Cut to the second half and Jake, Duggan, Undertaker, Savage, Slaughter, Sid, Hogan all were left to come. It might not have seemed like it at the time, but this was arguably the most loaded Rumble in history as over half the field are current Hall of Famers and I’d say a few more should be in the HOF by now (Bulldog, Martel, IRS). I loved that Flair went through everyone to get there, but kind of wished he had eliminated Hogan, but understood why he didn’t because it was Sid’s spot. I know you couldn’t say half the things The Brain was saying on commentary about guys (“making guacamole out of El Matador” and also saying Virgil went through everyone’s bags in the back before he got to the ring), but dammit was he great. I still was confused though in what the hell they expected the crowd to do when Hogan pitched a little fit and helped eliminate Sid, who just tossed him. It made Hulk look like a whiny baby & of course some of the crowd would boo him after the match was over. Still confused as to how this was supposed to ultimately make Sid the heel at this point. Anyways back to Flair, after all this time, you got a villain to win it all and end the show. Bobby Heenan had his redemption after all those years of falling short of his guys winning the big one. He got to celebrate with Flair & Perfect to end the show and it was a thing of beauty. “With a tear in my eye, this is the greatest moment in my life.” You can think of all the catch phrases you want with Ric Flair, but that line will always be my favorite (next to “put that cigarette out!”). This was a flawless Royal Rumble, one I can watch every day if I had to. That’s why it’s the greatest Royal Rumble match in history.
Last part of the Rumble Rankings will be compiling The Ultimate Royal Rumble match, which I'll explain tomorrow.
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Post by randomone on Jan 22, 2019 16:04:23 GMT -6
The Ultimate Royal Rumble
So I wanted to do something different to go along with the Rumble ranking & World Title rankings, so I thought about making The Ultimate Royal Rumble match. I don’t mean your dream Rumble with 30 all time greats, but the 30 best guys to enter at each number. That took a friggin while to compile the list of guys who entered at each number. Might sound a little confusing, but here are my rules, hopefully it’ll be easier to understand. I'll do 5 a day with the final 5 coming on Sunday.
Rules: -The best entrant at each number will be chosen -You can only be in it once (though I can pick guys from the same Rumble) -2011 entrants will only count to #30 despite it being a 40 man Rumble -Greatest Royal Rumble isn’t included
1. Chris Benoit (2004) We start things off with a very obvious choice as Benoit going the distance makes him the best #1 entrant ever. While HBK did it in 95, his competition was nonexistent with probably 28 of the 30 guys being dudes who didn’t stand a chance. Benoit had legit threats like Orton, Cena, Angle, RVD, Jericho & Big Show. Not to mention this was a longer Rumble match, unlike the 95 one, which thankfully was only 1 minute intervals.
2. Rey Mysterio (2006) Looking back on Rey winning this year’s Rumble, he did do an awful lot of sitting in the corner during the match, but I gave him the spot here due to the pure emotion surrounding him winning it and dedicating it to Eddie. His time is still the longest in Rumble history (if you don’t count the Greatest Royal Rumble) and I’m happy they had him win it at an early number. The story really wouldn’t have been as great if the greatest underdog ever won the Rumble at 27 or something.
3. Ric Flair (1992) I said Benoit was one of the obvious choices, but Flair could be THE most obvious as the #3 slot is historically linked forever to the Nature Boy and his legendary run in the 92 Rumble. Add to that the Bobby Heenan commentary and it’s a thing of beauty. Despite being in a new promotion, Flair stuck by his motto of “to be the man, you got to beat the man” as he outlasted everyone, every heavy hitter the WWF had. I loved every second of it.
4. The Rock (1998) Spoiler alert, I’ll be talking about Stone Cold later in this list and it’ll be from this Rumble as the 98 Rumble was essentially designed for Austin to take it. However, there was a thorn in his side that’d try his hardest to prevent him from stamping his ticket to WrestleMania and it’s the guy who he’d been feuding with for the previous few months, The Rock. While we hadn’t been introduced to The Great One or Brahma Bull quite yet, we were right at the beginning of the arrogant cocky asshole Rock we’d all come to love. It was the perfect final hurdle for Austin to jump as The Rock had the ironman spot in this one going over 51 minutes. While only 3 eliminations, The Rock hung tough to the very end and it was a great showing from The Great One.
5. Edge (2007) While Steve Austin had a much more dominant run in the 97 Rumble at the #5 slot, I went with a different number for Austin like I said, so next up was Edge, who at this point wasn’t in his Smackdown World Title run yet, but he was Rated RKO Edge as he was well on his way to being the top guy. With the exception of The Great Khali clearing the ring towards the end of the match, Edge was the Ironman and had 5 eliminations. He lasted 44 minutes, teamed well with Randy Orton once he entered, got the best of both Hardys and made it to the Final 4, technically Final 3 as the Rated RKO boys were eliminated about the same time by Taker & Shawn. It was a very strong showing from the Rated R Superstar.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Jan 22, 2019 23:02:43 GMT -6
Randomone, you are putting in some serious work my friend. Great job on these write-ups. Admittedly, several of these Rumbles I have not seen (2007-2014). I'll definitely have to go back and check out some of the better ones I missed.
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Post by randomone on Jan 23, 2019 12:41:51 GMT -6
6. Kane (2001) Could there be a better choice here? Kane steamrolled damn near everyone in this match and he did it throughout the entire thing. From annihilating the Hardcore division dudes, to interacting with Drew Carey, forming a brief reunion with Taker, to eliminating The Rock, he made it to the Final 2 and the story told with the Big Red Machine in this one was excellently done. It was fitting that the last monster Stone Cold had to get passed was Kane who ruled this match.
7. Diesel (1994) Yes Braun Strowman in 2017 was more dominant at tossing guys out, but he was already an established monster. Diesel on the other hand, came out of nowhere with this performance of eliminating 7 guys in the early part of this Rumble. Sure they were lower card guys like Virgil, The Smokin Gunns, Bob Backlund, Kwang, then Owen Hart & Scott Steiner, but this was still early in the Rumble history, so performances like this weren’t seen by many & when they were, it was by guys like Hogan or Warrior. This was a star making performance for Diesel, even if his main event push didn’t come until the end of the year.
8. Randy Orton (2009) There really wasn’t a better heel in the WWE in late 08-early 09 than punt happy Randy Orton. Luckily in this one, the match, like I mentioned in the Rumble match rankings, was focused on Orton, Legacy & Triple H and their struggle to win the match. It’d become rare that a heel would win the Rumble, but luckily Orton did this year (despite a giant swing & miss at Mania). 48 minutes and always had Rhodes or Dibiase to save him from trouble, then at the end have a 3 on 1 advantage over Triple H, it was a no brainer for Orton to take this. Despite only 3 eliminations, they were Triple H, Kane & Big Show, so at least he made it count. Strong showing from The Viper on this night. Much better Rumble win than his other one in 2017.
9. Big Boss Man (2000) Obviously the Big Boss Man wasn’t anywhere near a legit World Title contender at this point (despite getting a World Title match the previous month that went all of 3 minutes), but when you have a list of guys at #9 like Danny Davis, Kwang, Pierroth, David Otunga, Hornswoggle, Husky Harris & Zack Ryder, you’ll understand why I went with Boss Man on this one. He lasted quite a while in this one and eliminated a few guys as well. So while it’s nowhere near a ground breaking or memorable performance like you’d expect for an Ultimate Royal Rumble spot, this was by far & away the toughest/weakest spot in the entire Rumble history. To show you how unmemorable this was, the only picture I could find when I googled 'Big Boss Man Royal Rumble 2000' was this one of The Rock beating him up.
10. Daniel Bryan (2015) A year prior the crowd revolted against creative & Vince for not having Bryan in the Rumble, so the following year, the crowd lost their shit when his music hit and out came DB at 10, this was the redemption they wanted for the previous year, which was filled with awful booking & untimely injuries, cut to 10 minutes and 36 seconds later and after ONE elimination…….Bryan was the 12th man eliminated in the Rumble. You might be asking, why the hell did I pick Bryan in this spot? It’s simple, the crowd reaction. Sometimes the crowd reaction is more memorable than anything else and this show, the crowd revolted, except instead of just the last 10 or so minutes in 2014, they revolted the entire rest of the match. This was a terrible Royal Rumble match in 2015, but the most memorable part about it was the crowd not getting Daniel Bryan for more than 10 minutes. For that reason, I went with him at this spot.
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Post by randomone on Jan 24, 2019 13:02:43 GMT -6
11. Sheamus (2013) While the 2013 Rumble was pretty much a setup for The Rock & John Cena to eventually clash again at Mania, the Rumble match itself had little highlights in terms of performances, but the exception was Sheamus, who put on a hell of a showing in this one. He made it to the Final 3 with Cena & Ryback (the two most over guys in the match), tossed 5 guys and lasted 37 minutes. Despite guys like Randy Savage, Chris Jericho, Owen Hart, CM Punk all entering at the #11 spot in other Rumbles, their showings were well below what they should’ve done. Sheamus was the strongest choice here.
12. Road Dogg (1999) This was probably the most difficult one of the bunch honestly. Looking back at the guys who had entered at this number, it was filled with guys who I had picked already for this or guys who did absolutely nothing at the spot. Road Dogg however, super over at the time, had a nice little showing in his 10 minutes in the 99 Rumble. He eliminated Edge, Al Snow & Gangrel and was pretty much the guy doing work before Kane came in and cleaned house for the 1 minute he was in. While it was nothing flashy or memorable, it was the strongest performance from the #12 spot and it went to the Dogg.
13. Vader (1996) We had heard commentary talk about the Rocky Mountain Monster debuting at this Rumble and while he only was in for 11 minutes, Vader made them count. He showed off what he was all about, beating up dudes left and right, exactly what he was known for. He beat up HBK in the process, eliminated 4 guys (pressing Doug Gilbert clear over his head and launching him) and made an impact in an otherwise lackluster Rumble. In 1996, that’s about as solid of a debut as you can get, especially for a guy who was so well known in the rival promotion.
14. Shinsuke Nakamura (2018) I was debating about giving this spot to the British Bulldog in 1991, but opted for Nakamura instead. Bulldog had a very strong & underrated showing in his as he had 3 eliminations (Mr. Perfect, Haku & the ironman of the match Rick Martel), lasted 36 minutes and made it to the Final 4. However I went with Nakamura from 2018 due to the fact that despite also having 3 eliminations, those people were Roman Reigns, John Cena & Sami Zayn. Add to that he lasted 45 minutes and won the thing, it’s a no brainer. I don’t want to rely just on people winning getting the nod, so even had he not won, eliminating Cena & Reigns especially, that’d been enough for me to give Nakamura the nod.
15. Roman Reigns (2014) 2014 was a weird year looking back in regards to the Rumble. Roman became major player in the Rumble chucking out 12 guys (technically 11 guys and 1 bull with Torito), breaking Kane’s record of 11. Again, I’m still counting that as the current record, despite Braun having 13 at the Greatest Rumble. By the end of the Rumble, the crowd was so furious they actually wanted Roman to win simply because they didn’t want Batista as he wasn’t Daniel Bryan. Take all the bullshit out of this match and Roman was the only highlight of this really. It’s a no brainer; he’s the strongest guy who has entered 15.
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Post by randomone on Jan 25, 2019 18:45:25 GMT -6
16. Kofi Kingston (2018) The reason behind this one is simple; I need a highlight reel moment, so I turn to Kofi. While I don’t like the pancake gimmick with New Day, I do remember tweeting they should use pancakes as stepping stones to help Kofi stay in. While they didn’t do exactly that, he did step on one pancake to save himself and proceeded to literally get launched clear back into the ring from the floor by Woods & Big E. They don’t always have to have dominating runs, I need a little bit of comedy and Kofi is a never ending supply of memorable moments in the Rumble match.
17. Braun Strowman (2016) As much as I really wanted to pick Owen Hart from the 96 Rumble, with the exception of hitting another enzugiri on HBK & lasting 20 minutes, he only eliminated Hakushi & Barry Horowitz, so I opted for Strowman, who, despite still being a year away from being the “monster among men”, was a 2016 version of Diesel, eliminating Kane, Big Show, Sami Zayn, Mark Henry and had a hand in eliminating Brock Lesnar. So the list of guys was pretty impressive as with the exception of Sami, Braun got rid of virtually every other monster in the match. For only being on the main roster for a few months, Braun looked very strong in his debut Rumble appearance.
18. Shawn Michaels (1996) Another no brainer here as HBK dominated the 96 Rumble and unlike the previous year, it at least had a few threats for him to get passed. 95 Rumble was filled with so many lower level guys, at least this one had guys like Vader, Yokozuna, Diesel, Owen Hart, The British Bulldog and Shawn eliminated all of them. Add to that he tossed the 123 Kid, Isaac Yankem & Jerry Lawler on his way to winning it all. Like I said in the other rankings, this match was made for HBK, so of course he gets this spot.
19. John Cena (2013) When a year where the Rumble was pretty much set up for you to win, I’m actually pretty surprised that Cena ONLY eliminated 4 guys in this year. Like I’ve stated in the Rumble rankings, this was the most predictable Rumble in history, so it’s amazing Cena didn’t legit eliminate 29 other guys. Instead he tossed Cody, Cesaro, Heath Slater & finally Ryback to win it. Not a murder’s row or anything, but Cena was one of (if not the only) dominant guy in this Rumble. Stone Cold had another strong showing at this number in 2002, but he’s coming up at a different spot. Another, which I legit was going to go with, but didn’t, was the One Man Gang from the original Rumble in 1988, who tossed 6 guys, but that was really a trial run Rumble more than anything. Cena gets the nod.
20. Rob Van Dam (2006) This was a tough one as you had some serious superstars at this spot like Kurt Angle, John Cena, Undertaker, but they either had super underwhelming showings (Angle in 2005, in for 37 seconds) or were just more dominant at other spots (Cena in 2018 wasn’t nearly as good as 2013 at #19, while Undertaker in 1992 seems memorable, but only had 1 elimination), so it fell on The Whole F’N Show. With the exception of Rey & Triple H who went the entire 1 hour plus and had 6 eliminations each, the one with the most eliminations after them was actually RVD with 4 (Animal, Carlito, Goldust & Super Crazy). So while he was only in for 24 minutes, he did work while he was in there and made it to the Final 4 as well. So Mr. Monday Night takes the spot and with pretty good reason.
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Post by randomone on Jan 26, 2019 12:11:06 GMT -6
21. Ultimate Warrior (1990) I’m going to cover Hogan at the 25 slot in this too as that’s where I have him ranked. This was really the Hogan/Warrior showdown that made this match so memorable. The crowd went absolutely ape-shit and commentary was almost at a hush as they were letting us soak in the moment. We got the top 2 babyfaces in the company ready to come to blows after clearing the ring of guys (a young Rockers Shawn Michaels was in this match for like 14 seconds). I always got a kick out of both these guys doing a criss/cross and running the ropes getting gassed out after their showdown. They didn’t throw punches; they made you wait for that, which was smart. You had the crowd feeding into this moment and it was perfect. Sure Warrior didn’t have this legendary showing, nor did he make it to the end of the match, but the face off was the beginning of making him the next top guy. This moment was pivotal and that’s not something you can say about other guys in this slot.
22. Triple H (2002) I should just write U2 Beautiful Day and go to the next spot, but I won’t. The build for Triple H’s return could be my all time favorite vignettes ever for a returning star. You took a hated heel and made him a babyface all from showing him busting his ass at rehab, all to the tune of Beautiful Day by U2. Leave it to Bono to be the reason why I loved this so much. Once Hunter entered the 02 Rumble, the crowd went crazy and we got a face off with Stone Cold as shit was on. Of course we had a hilarious Hurricane spot briefly, but Austin/Trips was the perfect showdown needed for Hunter to return to. Now, granted a lot of the remaining guys in this weren’t legit threats to win, you had pretty big names that Trips had to get passed like Booker, RVD, Kane, Show, Angle & Mr. Perfect of all people. They saved a lot of the major guys to the end (as you should) and having Triple H vs Kurt at the end was very fitting considering a year earlier they were fighting for the title. Once he clotheslined Kurt out, it was a great culmination of all those vignettes as Hunter was headed to Mania.
23. Lex Luger (1994) Was the Lex Express as strong as it was in 1993 at this point? No. Had the wheels completely fallen off? No. (different story the following year) So we’re in that weird time where the fans wanted Bret Hart to win, but Luger had enough gas left in the Lex Express to get cheered when he came out. Lex lasted 22 minutes, eliminated 6 guys and despite the whole co-winner nonsense, put up a strong showing. He eliminated Mr. Fuji’s hired guns in Kabuki & Tenryu, Adam Bomb, Shawn Michaels, Bam Bam & helped eliminating Crush. Bret was busy selling the injury from Owen earlier in the night (after Owen kicked Bret’s leg out of his leg) to put up much of a showing, so if you think about it, Luger had the better showing in this Rumble than Bret, despite Bret blowing Lex out of the water in their Mania performances. What seemed like a clever idea probably at the time definitely doesn't hold up & over time looks just dumb.
24. Steve Austin (1998) Looking at the 98 Rumble, there wasn’t another option to go with to win the match, actually there wasn’t another main eventer in the entire match, so this was a match designed for Austin to just beat the shit out of everyone and that’s exactly what he did. Once he came out he whooped everyone’s ass and that was really about it. You’re not going to find a more dominant showing from a Rumble winner. There’s really nothing more to say. He took care of business and last eliminated the guy he was feuding with at the time, The Rock, which was a fitting end. 7 eliminations total ended up being less than his 1997 win, but this year meant so much more than the 97 win, so I had to go with Austin here and not #5.
25. Hulk Hogan (1990) I’ll keep this short since I covered most of his run in the Warrior blurb. We’re in the Hogan Must Pose time, so as much as I wish Mr. Perfect would’ve won this match, I understand why Hogan took it. Warrior wasn’t “the guy” quite yet, so Hogan winning this made sense and having him eliminates his top rival at the time in Perfect was fitting as well. Hogan was dominant in this and it was really a no brainer how this show was going to end.
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Post by randomone on Jan 27, 2019 16:29:51 GMT -6
26. Kurt Angle (2002) So part of me wanted to pick Big Show from 2000 at this spot, but I went with Angle instead simply because Kurt had more competition in his match and he ultimately didn’t look weak at the end. Technically Show had won his match, Rock’s feet hit the floor with Big Show, but Rock just jumped back in the ring and got the win. With Kurt, while he did lose clean, he was last in there with Triple H, Austin, RVD, Booker, Perfect; it was just a higher level. Plus let’s not kid ourselves; I’m picking Kurt over almost anyone if I had to. Simply put, Kurt makes an Ultimate Rumble more intense. It’s True, It’s True.
27. Yokozuna (1993) I was somewhat surprised that Yoko got the win at the 93 Rumble and honestly, I shouldn’t have been, early 90s, huge dude, that’s about the only requirement you needed to be a main event guy for Vince. Yoko was still only a few months into his run though, despite guys like Savage & Undertaker really being the only other threats (Flair too, but he was wrapping his time up literally that week), as a kid, I was cheering for Savage to take it. Yoko was a deserving winner though as he was dominant as soon as he got in the match, tossing out guys like Owen Hart, Earthquake, the “youngster” Carlos Colon (as Gorilla called him on commentary), Bob Backlund & finally Randy Savage. I just wish they didn’t make Savage seem like a bone head trying to pin Yoko which led to the final elimination. This is about as strong of a performance from a rookie in a Rumble ever.
28. Batista (2005) As much as I wanted to give Batista’s win from 2014 the nod here for shits and giggles, I simply couldn’t do it. Instead I opted for the Rumble win that pushed Big Dave into the main event picture. I’d be remiss if I didn’t bring up how the ending completely fell apart as it wasn’t really supposed to happen the way that it went down. So after 5 eliminations, 11 minutes of ring time, 2 torn Vince quads, 1 botched finish and a couple restarts, this massive clusterfuck ultimately went to Batista, who up to that point eliminated Edge, Chris Jericho, Snitsky & Christian. I guess you can only count eliminating Cena once, even though you could count it a few times & wouldn’t get an argument from me. I wish it would’ve been a better ending, but it is what it is. The Animal won like he was supposed to and went on to Mania winning the title in dominate fashion.
29. Brock Lesnar (2003) Unlike others who have won the Rumble, Brock had to earn his spot by beating Big Show earlier in the night. I dug that little touch as it was another hurdle for Brock to jump to get to Kurt. Brock came in and did what he did best, even in 2003, beat guys up. He threw around Team Angle like rag dolls, launched Matt Hardy clear over the top with an F5, then ultimately found himself in the Final 4 with Kane, Taker & a young Batista. Of course it had to be Brock as they’d been building for him to finally get his shot at Kurt for a while now and finally with this win, he was going to get it. Granted Yoko had been in the WWF a shorter time before he won his Rumble, Brock, still in his rookie year, was more impressive considering the caliber of competition he faced on his way to winning this match.
30. The Undertaker (2007) All I’d really have to type is that Taker was the first man ever to win the Rumble at #30, so that’s good enough reason for me to give him the final spot. That’d be a pretty crappy way of ending all this wouldn’t it? The Dead Man came into the match at a time where almost everyone was eliminated by The Great Khali, so aside from a few others; it was the showdown between the two big men. Luckily Taker dispatched of Khali rather quickly and then tossed MVP, so then as HBK tossed Rated RKO, we got essentially our match with Taker & Shawn. It was so awesome as it was in San Antonio and the crowd really wanted Shawn, but after some fantastic false finishes, we had The Dead Man win it. What made this so special was we were always trained to think that the #30 guy, despite having the biggest advantage, never really had a strong chance of winning. So I was legit surprised Taker won not only at the #30 spot, but also because it was in Shawn’s hometown. With only 3 eliminations, the story of this one made this a no brainer.
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Again, like the end of every one of these... I'm tired.
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Post by Optimisn on Jan 21, 2022 19:50:50 GMT -6
27. Royal Rumble 1989 This was the most puzzling winner of arguably any Rumble in history. Big John Studd had made a comeback and this was really the only time he got to do anything before leaving again. Why in the world could Ted Dibiase or someone like that not steal this? There was nothing on the line & with Hulk already eliminated; there was no need for him to pose. You could've just had Dibiase talk shit on the microphone about the Mega Powers and have Hogan run him off or something, beat up Virgil, then pose, all while Macho is backstage pissed. Instead we got Studd waving to the crowd after winning it. The biggest moment came when the Mega Powers started to crack as Hogan “accidentally” eliminated Savage, which, again, I’ve said it before, who the hell could side with Hogan in this feud with Savage in 89? Hogan was a homewrecker and he also purposefully eliminated Savage, but he played it off like “what, I didn’t mean it!” Bullshit Terry, you know what you did to Macho. I was pretty shocked Hogan was ultimately eliminated by the Twin Towers though. Up to that point, the most surprising thing was Demolition drawing 1 and 2, something I wish happened more if a tag team is in a Rumble. The match itself is loaded with talent & Hall of Famers, but the winner left a lot to be desired, especially when you consider the field. It was fun at times, but after Macho & Hogan were gone, the momentum of the match stops dead and we're stuck with guys like Hercules, Studd, Beefer, Martel, Barbarian & Dibiase. Not exactly a strong finish in 89.
Watching this now. Really fun.
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Post by Optimisn on Jan 21, 2022 20:10:16 GMT -6
Jesse Ventura was Fox News before Fox News.
Jesse: Well then I guess we know who thirty is.
Gorilla: Yeah, the guy with the big bucks!
Jesse: Haha! You don't buy that he could have drawn that number?
Gorilla: No I don't. Did you see when he made the drawing? How upset he was?!?
Jesse: Well maybe he wanted to prove something? Maybe he wanted number one? So he could prove to the world!
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Jan 21, 2022 23:27:06 GMT -6
I love how Jesse saw through Hogan's bullshit when it came to Savage and Elizabeth. Savage was 100% the babyface in that situation.
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Post by randomone on Jan 21, 2022 23:38:21 GMT -6
It was only 3 years ago but I have no recollection of making the Ultimate Royal Rumble Match list or the research that went into compiling it.
Pretty clever idea if I do say so!
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Post by Optimisn on Jan 26, 2022 17:29:48 GMT -6
Our run of having tons of hall of fame guys in the ring definitely ends by 1995.
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Post by randomone on Jan 26, 2022 18:41:36 GMT -6
Our run of having tons of hall of fame guys in the ring definitely ends by 1995. Well Dunn Bushwhackers Heavenly Bodies Headshrinkers Smokin Gunns Men on a Mission Blu Brothers Nearly half the folks in that were tags. Smartest move ever making that Rumble every 60 second intervals. Duke Droese, Mantaur, Adam Bomb, Bundy, Crush, Henry Godwin, Rick Martel, Doink, Bob Backlund, Owen, Luger, HBK, Davey, Kwang, Aldo Montoya, Dick fucking Murdoch!! Half that lineup would be gone by Mania!
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Jan 26, 2022 19:23:19 GMT -6
That entire show is a mindfuck. From the 60-second intervals, to the wacky gimmicks all over the roster, to the Pamela Anderson involvement.
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