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Post by Terry's Peeps on Feb 27, 2020 14:35:17 GMT -6
What was the point of the Brock-Ricochet "match"? Maybe 2 minutes where Ricochet gets destroyed while getting no offense in and looks like a nobody. To be fair, O'Shea is literally a nobody. But he shouldn't be. Oh well. I sometimes forget why I stopped watching WWE for the most part.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 27, 2020 14:36:26 GMT -6
What was the point of the Brock-Ricochet "match"? Maybe 2 minutes where Ricochet gets destroyed while getting no offense in and looks like a nobody. I'd be pissed if they were actually booking Ricochet well, but they aren't. Hell before he won the shot at Brock, I had just watched him on Main Event vs Cedric. So I knew this would happen. Just sad because of how big Ricochet was at a time and now he's just another dork. If Ricochet had ever bothered learning how to emote even slightly past robotic in his promos, he might be in a better position.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Feb 27, 2020 14:38:02 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on Feb 27, 2020 14:42:15 GMT -6
He's never been a good promo, I'll give you that. I'll go one better and say he's flat out terrible. NXT should've helped with that, but they didn't.
However when you're 188 pounds and given the catchphrase "I'm here to prove that superheroes...they are real!", you're already fighting from behind.
We all know he's one of the best wrestlers in the world. But he works for a company that is run by a guy who gets boners (at this age Blue Chew aided) from big body guys and doesn't care about the tiny dudes.
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Post by jackref on Feb 27, 2020 14:45:04 GMT -6
Fuck Goldberg. Seriously who wants to watch him wrestle these days when you have so much ACTUAL talent on the roster. Let alone have him be champ - fuck that.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Feb 27, 2020 14:50:20 GMT -6
They want the belt on Roman, and Roman beating Goldberg at Mania will go over way better than Roman beating Bray.
It's that easy.
Of course they don't care that it kills the current guy having him lose to the part time guy.
Has Kevin Owens recovered from losing to Goldberg a couple years ago when he was on fire? I don't think so.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 27, 2020 14:56:19 GMT -6
They want the belt on Roman, and Roman beating Goldberg at Mania will go over way better than Roman beating Bray. That's another issue too. This whole "Roman wins the big one at 'Mania" story...we've seen this shit before. It didn't exactly move the needle.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 27, 2020 14:59:04 GMT -6
I'm thinking fuck WrestleMania at this point. I will watch Drew McIntyre's coronation and maybe Becky vs. Bazsler, but I could not give a flying fuck about anything else they're doing right now.
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Post by Positivity KS on Feb 27, 2020 15:01:48 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on Feb 27, 2020 15:06:03 GMT -6
Meltzer said Mania is slated to be a 14 match card as of now
Brock vs Drew Edge vs Orton Cena vs Wyatt (assuming) Goldberg vs Roman (assuming) Charlotte vs Rhea Becky vs Shayna Taker vs Styles Bayley vs someone (Lacey?) Miz/Mo defend their tag titles in a multi team I assume Rollins vs Owens in some sort of stip match? Andre Battle Royal Women's Battle Royal Braun vs Sheamus (purely guessing) Andrade vs someone for the US Title (maybe Black?)
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Post by All Drop In on Feb 27, 2020 15:13:55 GMT -6
That is not a bad card.
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Post by randomone on Feb 27, 2020 15:17:40 GMT -6
Zero ideas on what you do with guys like Bryan
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Feb 27, 2020 15:24:23 GMT -6
I'll enjoy following along on Twitter.
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Post by randomone on Feb 27, 2020 15:26:46 GMT -6
Yeah I'll watch Takeover the night before, which should be fucking great.
Not spending 7+ hours for Mania.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Feb 27, 2020 18:06:57 GMT -6
The Culk is NOT HAPPY!
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Post by jackref on Feb 27, 2020 18:18:31 GMT -6
Brock vs Drew - Cool Edge vs Orton - Awesome Cena vs Wyatt (assuming) - don't care about Cena at this point Goldberg vs Roman (assuming) - fucking barf Charlotte vs Rhea - meh Becky vs Shayna - cool Taker vs Styles - wtf why? Bayley vs someone (Lacey?) - don't care Miz/Mo defend their tag titles in a multi team I assume - don't care Rollins vs Owens in some sort of stip match? cool Andre Battle Royal - don't care Women's Battle Royal - really don't care Braun vs Sheamus (purely guessing) - sadly don't care Andrade vs someone for the US Title (maybe Black?) - ok Strictly my opinion IF those are the matches - not shitcanning your proposed matches
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 7:12:17 GMT -6
What a joke. Second year in a row I won’t be watching.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 10:05:47 GMT -6
Meltzer said Mania is slated to be a 14 match card as of now Brock vs Drew Edge vs Orton Cena vs Wyatt (assuming) Goldberg vs Roman (assuming) Charlotte vs Rhea Becky vs Shayna Taker vs Styles Bayley vs someone (Lacey?) Miz/Mo defend their tag titles in a multi team I assume Rollins vs Owens in some sort of stip match? Andre Battle Royal Women's Battle Royal Braun vs Sheamus (purely guessing) Andrade vs someone for the US Title (maybe Black?) Pretty good card. I'm glad Goldberg won the title; Bray doesn't need the title to be effective.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Feb 28, 2020 10:20:35 GMT -6
I agree Bray doesn't need the title. What he does need is to not be destroyed by a 55 year old part time guy.
Bray never should've cared about the title. He should just be the monster causing havoc and destruction.
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Post by randomone on Feb 28, 2020 11:10:04 GMT -6
Exactly. His quest should've been getting revenge on those who wronged him in the past. The feud with Rollins really started the downfall (which was literally his second feud after Balor).
You build a guy up for nearly a year. Make him unstoppable. Then have him lose to an old guy with a half ass suplex.
100% agree Wyatt didn't need the title. But I hate the fact that he dropped it to Goldberg.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 28, 2020 11:16:41 GMT -6
I don't know why more WWE fans haven't abandoned ship in recent years. The company as a whole has been in a creative nadir since 2017. How would a person even describe the current era? Maybe The Blah Era?
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 28, 2020 11:20:04 GMT -6
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
The expanded roster is not necessary. There is too much dead weight, but they've long since passed the point of no return. WWE should have scaled back their roster and gotten rid of the two-show model over a decade ago.
If the NXT roster from 2015 til now had been the actual main roster, this would be the best five year stretch in WWE history.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 12:52:42 GMT -6
Exactly. His quest should've been getting revenge on those who wronged him in the past. The feud with Rollins really started the downfall (which was literally his second feud after Balor). You build a guy up for nearly a year. Make him unstoppable. Then have him lose to an old guy with a half ass suplex. 100% agree Wyatt didn't need the title. But I hate the fact that he dropped it to Goldberg. Goldberg losing the title to Reigns won't result in Reigns getting booed out of the building; Bray losing would. That is creative's fault but this is their only option.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 12:54:47 GMT -6
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The expanded roster is not necessary. There is too much dead weight, but they've long since passed the point of no return. WWE should have scaled back their roster and gotten rid of the two-show model over a decade ago. If the NXT roster from 2015 til now had been the actual main roster, this would be the best five year stretch in WWE history. I agree about the expanded roster. Maybe if they cut a bunch of people, they would invest it in creating entrance sets that make every PPV feel different instead of the generic set. I feel like I'm watching a Raw/Smackdown Supershow when watching a PPV.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 28, 2020 15:05:12 GMT -6
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The expanded roster is not necessary. There is too much dead weight, but they've long since passed the point of no return. WWE should have scaled back their roster and gotten rid of the two-show model over a decade ago. If the NXT roster from 2015 til now had been the actual main roster, this would be the best five year stretch in WWE history. I agree about the expanded roster. Maybe if they cut a bunch of people, they would invest it in creating entrance sets that make every PPV feel different instead of the generic set. I feel like I'm watching a Raw/Smackdown Supershow when watching a PPV. You hit on something there. Almost everything looks, feels, and is presented the same.
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Post by randomone on Feb 28, 2020 16:00:23 GMT -6
Honestly had they handled it better and not rushed it for the Rumble, they could've had a cool build for Bryan finally overcoming Wyatt to win the title at Mania, but that's just me fantasy booking. I know since Roman had a year off of the main event picture, Vince wants him back in there.
I think Roman gets booed. Not out of the building, but beating Goldberg (who, regardless of his age, gets cheered) will get him booed, especially at Mania.
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Post by All Drop In on Feb 28, 2020 16:43:27 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity KS on Feb 28, 2020 17:01:59 GMT -6
I finally found the unedited Goldberg concussion promo.......
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