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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2022 21:17:37 GMT -6
Gonna be a long night in Chicago on Sunday, 4 Buy In matches, 11 main card matches. I'm looking forward to nearly all the matches. I don't care about Sammy/Tay vs. Ruby/Ortiz for the third time in the span of 2 weeks, that was unnecessarily added. Rest looks solid.
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AEW World Title Jon Moxley vs. CM Punk
AEW Trios Titles Kenny Omega & The Young Bucks vs. Hangman Page, Alex Reynolds & John Silver
AEW Interim Women's Title Britt Baker vs. Toni Storm vs. Jamie Hayter vs. Hikaru Shida
AEW Tag Team Titles Keith Lee & Swerve Strickland vs. The Acclaimed
AEW TBS Title Jade Cargill vs. Athena
Casino Ladder Match Claudio Castagnoli vs. Wheeler Yuta vs. Penta El Zero Miedo vs. Rey Fenix vs. Rush vs. Andrade El Idolo vs. Dante Martin vs. ?
Ricky Starks vs. Powerhouse Hobbs
Wardlow & FTR vs. Jay Lethal & The Motor City Machine Guns
Jungle Boy vs. Christian Cage
House of Black vs. Miro, Sting & Darby Allin
Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Jericho
Buy In AEW All Atlantic Title PAC vs. Kip Sabian
FTW Title Hook vs. Angelo Parker
AAA Mixed Tag Team Titles Sammy Guevara & Tay Melo vs. Ruby Soho & Ortiz
Tomohiro Ishii vs. Eddie Kingston |
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 2, 2022 21:28:01 GMT -6
I've set myself up to believe MJF will return. I probably shouldn't do that, but I'm already committed. I will likely be disappointed.
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Post by jackref on Sept 2, 2022 21:59:51 GMT -6
On paper, this card sucks. They boxed themselves into a corner with some of this stuff but this really shows they have way too many guys and gals on the roster. I'm sorry but Alex Reynolds and John Silver are not putting asses in seats. Keith Lee, Swerve, and the Acclaimed is one of the worst builds for a tag title match. I honestly don't know why Lee and Swerve have them. Why is the ROH champion in a ladder match? Wardlow and FTR vs Lethal and MCM is just stupid. Seriously. 99% of the AEW audience has no fucking idea who MCM are and 99.9% don't even care. The only real builds have been Danielson vs Jericho, Jungle Boy vs Cage, Starks vs Hobbs, and Moxley vs Punk - which was built in the worst way possible. Those 4 matches aren't worth the price of admission.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 2, 2022 22:16:01 GMT -6
I agree for the most part, though I don't hate the trios story as much as others do.
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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2022 22:23:16 GMT -6
How Hangman got in the tournament was a little wonky, but the storyline of him siding with Dark Order over The Bucks is perfect long term storytelling.
Tag Title match I can’t defend, aside from maybe they were so focused on the trios tourney they were like oh shit we need a tag title match.
I’d say they should’ve just done FTR vs StrickLee but they should’ve built that more. At least that 6 man will be a good wrestling match.
Cole being the Joker and MJF helping Punk both make sense
I also hope Miro is wearing face paint
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 2, 2022 22:25:48 GMT -6
How Hangman got in the tournament was a little wonky, but the storyline of him siding with Dark Order over The Bucks is perfect long term storytelling. Tag Title match I can’t defend, aside from maybe they were so focused on the trios tourney they were like oh shit we need a tag title match. I’d say they should’ve just done FTR vs StrickLee but they should’ve built that more. At least that 6 man will be a good wrestling match. Cole being the Joker and MJF helping Punk both make sense I also hope Miro is wearing face paint Oh God, please no. |
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Post by jackref on Sept 2, 2022 22:26:56 GMT -6
I don't hate the Trios story, it just isn't a PPV match on this card. This is their Mania. This card just feels rushed and haphazard.
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Post by jackref on Sept 2, 2022 22:29:58 GMT -6
Oh and MJF shouldn't be anywhere near this. He legit shitcans Tony and the company, disappears for 4 months, and then should be part of this and a main angle going forward? No. And I like MJF. I want to see him back but not be rewarded for being a shitstain and get a spot on your top card.
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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2022 22:55:38 GMT -6
If you want to go all in on heel Punk, whose the most disgusting heel he could associate with? That’s my reasoning. I’d be fine if he doesn’t show up, but enough is enough, he needs to be back after his little “fuck” promo on Tony.
Something big needs to happen to put AEW into their next few months of bookings. Punk cheating to win on his own doesn’t seem great by himself.
Oh and FTR vs MCMG is a fun TV match that could happen. I like how it’s essentially the X-Division 2008 and a Giant vs FTR & Wardlow.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 3, 2022 10:58:50 GMT -6
On paper, this card sucks. They boxed themselves into a corner with some of this stuff but this really shows they have way too many guys and gals on the roster. The ideal pay per view is 8 strong matches, all with proper builds, and maybe one or two pre-show matches. What we have here is Tony feeling obligated to get EVERYONE on the show. The result is a bloated card. Almost reminds me of those early WrestleManias where you'd have Dino Bravo and Ronnie Garvin in a random match for no reason. I will enjoy being there, but admittedly I'm not as excited as I was last year. |
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Post by jackref on Sept 3, 2022 11:07:37 GMT -6
On paper, this card sucks. They boxed themselves into a corner with some of this stuff but this really shows they have way too many guys and gals on the roster. The ideal pay per view is 8 strong matches, all with proper builds, and maybe one or two pre-show matches. What we have here is Tony feeling obligated to get EVERYONE on the show. The result is a bloated card. Almost reminds me of those early WrestleManias where you'd have Dino Bravo and Ronnie Garvin in a random match for no reason. I will enjoy being there, but admittedly I'm not as excited as I was last year.  |
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Post by jackref on Sept 3, 2022 11:08:34 GMT -6
If you want to go all in on heel Punk, whose the most disgusting heel he could associate with? That’s my reasoning. I’d be fine if he doesn’t show up, but enough is enough, he needs to be back after his little “fuck” promo on Tony. Something big needs to happen to put AEW into their next few months of bookings. Punk cheating to win on his own doesn’t seem great by himself. Oh and FTR vs MCMG is a fun TV match that could happen. I like how it’s essentially the X-Division 2008 and a Giant vs FTR & Wardlow. I don't think Punk needs anyone to go full heel. Plus they brought in Ace to tease or start it. Unless Ace does a double cross on him to help Mox... |
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 3, 2022 11:14:39 GMT -6
To be fair, the world always needed more Dino Bravo and Ronnie Garvin matches.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 3, 2022 11:57:18 GMT -6
To be fair, the world always needed more Dino Bravo and Ronnie Garvin matches. Owen Hart vs. Skinner is probably a better example of the most random match in WrestleMania history. |
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Post by randomone on Sept 3, 2022 13:03:04 GMT -6
Jump in on this and say Greg Valentine vs Earthquake or Tito vs Mountie
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 3, 2022 14:28:20 GMT -6
Jump in on this and say Greg Valentine vs Earthquake or Tito vs Mountie Really good ones indeed. |
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 4, 2022 6:00:08 GMT -6
Happy All Out Day!
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 4, 2022 9:31:20 GMT -6
One thing I don't understand. This show is supposed to be AEW's big show. Why do they consistently book a small building for it?
They have to try for a bigger venue eventually, right? Maybe just 20,000 or so. Get a buzz going again with a big crowd.
Right now, especially after yesterday, AEW just appears to be minor league.
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Post by randomone on Sept 4, 2022 9:57:32 GMT -6
This promo is fire and he doesn’t yell at all. So you can’t hate that part of it! Haha
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 4, 2022 10:29:27 GMT -6
Fuckit...I'm rooting for Moxley after that promo.
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Post by Positivity KS on Sept 4, 2022 10:39:59 GMT -6
I kinda feel like MJF will leave the arena as the new world champ tonight.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 4, 2022 10:43:18 GMT -6
I kinda feel like MJF will leave the arena as the new world champ tonight. I would be very happy if that happened. Jackref wouldn't like that very much though. |
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 4, 2022 11:06:36 GMT -6
It would be awful if that happened.
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Post by jackref on Sept 4, 2022 11:17:26 GMT -6
I kinda feel like MJF will leave the arena as the new world champ tonight.  |
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Sept 4, 2022 11:20:19 GMT -6
It would be Wrestlemania 9 main event bad.
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Post by All Drop In on Sept 4, 2022 11:38:30 GMT -6
It would be Wrestlemania 9 main event bad. Trying to figure out who gave MJF the black eye could go for a year. |
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Post by randomone on Sept 4, 2022 11:39:27 GMT -6
It’d be more clever for MJF to win the Casino ladder match and have a title shot that Tony can’t take away (kayfabe bro). Punk wins the title and MJF has his title shot.
Punk vs MJF at Grand Slam? I don’t know if I want MJF as AEW champion though, like, ever. He’s a great promo when he’s not resorting to cheap heat so early. But is he world champion guy? He’s the perfect thorn in the side guy.
Which makes me want Punk and MJF as a heel duo
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 4, 2022 11:40:04 GMT -6
Any MJF appearance would be fine with me, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by randomone on Sept 4, 2022 11:40:16 GMT -6
It would be Wrestlemania 9 main event bad. Trying to figure out who gave MJF the black eye could go for a year. Jet skiing accident, brother Or Money Inc hired some henchmen to rough him up |
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 4, 2022 11:43:44 GMT -6
I think MJF would be a great heel champion in the same way that Britt was. A slimy heel who just manages to hold on to the title by an eyelash, is a great old-school formula.
Anytime your main title storyline is "Who can beat this guy?", you have something good there. It's worked great for Roman Reigns.
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