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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 5, 2023 22:47:55 GMT -6
By the way, Tony Schiavone is great.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 5, 2023 22:51:45 GMT -6
That match was fucking crazy phenomenal.
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Post by randomone on Mar 5, 2023 22:52:44 GMT -6
Here you go fellas. I'm going to Flair flop and go to bed.
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Post by randomone on Mar 5, 2023 23:04:58 GMT -6
Opener was fun and I'm glad Starks looked strong Cage & Perry was far more captivating than I thought considering the stipulation My goodness the Trios match was packed Women's three way was good for the most part, I didn't like the post match at all. Why go through all that just to turn? Ruby was pretty over as a babyface, but she had to turn heel for the story, I get it Page & Mox was one of the best violent wars I've seen, both delivered huge Wardlow & Joe felt like just a match in the death spot Tag Titles felt like an 8 man tag than a 4 way mostly. Happy Top Guys are back to regain the titles soon Main event was one of the ages, as MJF proved he could hang.
WHY THE HELL WAS THE OXYGEN TANK JUST LEFT RINGSIDE? Also HOW DID BRYCE NOT SEE THAT? Those were literally my only complaints in the match and it came after the 60 minutes were up.
Fantastic show I thought. Next stop, All Out in May.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 5, 2023 23:17:53 GMT -6
Here you go fellas. I'm going to Flair flop and go to bed.
Maybe fix your initial write up of the women's match before internet nerds get mad. (The match itself had its moments of being pretty good stuff, but the post match took me out of it. I know Soho, despite being an over babyface, was inevitably going to join up with Hayter & Saraya, since she’s not an “AEW Original”, but to have it happen after a hard hitting triple threat was an odd choice to me.)
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Post by randomone on Mar 5, 2023 23:25:20 GMT -6
Shit, I’ve shut down everything too. Dammit. Oh well, I’ll fix it in the morning.
Good looking out! I appreciate it.
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Post by randomone on Mar 6, 2023 0:08:01 GMT -6
All Out 2022 Media Scrum = Brawl Out Revolution 2023 Media Scrum = MJF loves pickles
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 6, 2023 0:16:13 GMT -6
Eating pickles. Eating muffins.
It's all coming together for the Punk return.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 6, 2023 6:39:02 GMT -6
Apparently it wasn't water, but tequila. Oops.
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Post by randomone on Mar 6, 2023 6:53:00 GMT -6
They gave him signed merch, brought him backstage, gave tickets for Sacramento too.
Hell, I’d have a wrestler toss tequila in my kids face if that’s what the loot is!
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 6, 2023 7:05:44 GMT -6
I blame the mother.
And I hope MJF does too.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 6, 2023 7:06:32 GMT -6
They gave him signed merch, brought him backstage, gave tickets for Sacramento too. Hell, I’d have a wrestler toss tequila in my kids face if that’s what the loot is! I mean the loot is cool, but he has to go to Sacramento.
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Post by randomone on Mar 6, 2023 7:17:26 GMT -6
When Danielson hit the dive to the floor around that area, the mom should’ve dumped her drink on Max.
A rare time where throwing a drink at a wrestler would be warranted and she’d get away with it.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 6, 2023 7:36:36 GMT -6
Tony said about 140,000 buys for last night. Solid number for AEW, and it shows that AEW fans are gonna buy their PPVs regardless of build.
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Post by randomone on Mar 6, 2023 10:49:32 GMT -6
Here you go fellas. I'm going to Flair flop and go to bed.
Maybe fix your initial write up of the women's match before internet nerds get mad. (The match itself had its moments of being pretty good stuff, but the post match took me out of it. I know Soho, despite being an over babyface, was inevitably going to join up with Hayter & Saraya, since she’s not an “AEW Original”, but to have it happen after a hard hitting triple threat was an odd choice to me.)Fixed it
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Post by jackref on Mar 6, 2023 12:11:37 GMT -6
Tony said about 140,000 buys for last night. Solid number for AEW, and it shows that AEW fans are gonna buy their PPVs regardless of build. is this more or less than All Out buyrate? And if they average 800k viewers a week that isn't a bad conversion number.
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Post by jackref on Mar 6, 2023 12:59:53 GMT -6
I found it. www.itnwwe.com/wrestling/aew-ppv-buys/I think that number has to be disappointing compared to last 4 buy rates. I still think 1 out 6 regular viewers buying it is decent, but steep drop off from All Out and the 3 in between. EDIT - I can't read dates. that was old and didn't have the most recent ones EDIT 2 - Ok this is more recent. Looks like on par with past 2 including All Out.
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Post by Positivity KS on Mar 6, 2023 16:14:52 GMT -6
Total plant
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Post by Positivity KS on Mar 6, 2023 16:33:25 GMT -6
This might best illustrate what I love most about AEW. It's fresh as fuck.
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Mar 6, 2023 22:28:08 GMT -6
This might best illustrate what I love most about AEW. It's fresh as fuck. With all due respect, didn’t Vince McMahon get shit on for bringing wrestlers from another company and making them job to his home grown talent? Not saying this is bad, but you can recreate this on multiple occasions. This isn’t unique to AEW
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 6, 2023 22:31:39 GMT -6
I mean, they could have been TNA and had Joe job to Kurt Angle right off the bat. So at least they're not TNA.
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Post by Positivity KS on Mar 6, 2023 22:45:57 GMT -6
I give up. I guess I can't just like what I like.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Mar 7, 2023 6:17:43 GMT -6
Of course you can.
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Mar 7, 2023 8:37:47 GMT -6
I give up. I guess I can't just like what I like. You absolutely can. But you made this sound like this was an AEW exclusive. Again, the AEW fans…good lord.
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Mar 7, 2023 8:40:22 GMT -6
I also said this wasn’t bad. I think it’s great that happened as well. I’m just reminding the AEW “never wwe” diehards that this isn’t a unique thing that just happened. This has happened for decades for all kinds of promotions.
Your reactions though remind me very much of MAGA folks when an independent voter lays out concerns, questions or historical facts. Or when an independent voter has said “I like trump’s policies but I don’t like the way he behaves” - that person gets blasted by MAGA. Very similar to when “I like that AEW exists, they do some cool things, mjf is cool, etc but I just can’t stand how the moves or rules don’t seem to matter.” My opinion isn’t black or white - and I’m certainly not on the wwe Vinny Mac bandwagon. There’s plenty of bitching about how they’ve done things. It’s just so odd that one can’t be critical of AEW. This is another reason that AEW becomes a turn off sometimes just like the Republican Party, the cult like backlash or response without listening, understanding or comprehending another persons view. I’m not telling you not to enjoy. I’ve told you in the past what I don’t enjoy.
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Post by randomone on Mar 7, 2023 23:04:15 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on Mar 10, 2023 15:36:02 GMT -6
Starks vs Jericho 4 stars Cage vs Perry 4 stars HOB vs Elite 4.75 stars Womens 3 Way 3 stars Moxley vs Page 5 stars Wardlow vs Joe 2.25 stars 4 way Tag Titles 3.25 stars MJF vs Danielson 5.75 stars
Highest star rating given to either Danielson or MJF in their career.
I’d have to watch Brock/Kurt again, but I can’t think of another Ironman match that was better than Bryan/MJF. Kenny/Okada have had longer matches but weren’t official Ironman matches.
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Mar 11, 2023 14:10:09 GMT -6
God damn Meltzer’s stupid ass five-star plus ratings. That said, I definitely want to check out MJF/Danielson.
Without seeing the Moxley match, I have to ask: do you truly believe it was five star? And before you get all excited, can we at least consider the past and what he determined to be 5 star? For example are you willing to say with a straight face that the Moxley match is on par with Bret vs Owen Summerslam 94?
AEW has even found a way for meltzers ratings to not mean anything anymore. That’s saying something since I don’t think much of the person to begin with. I know this has become a NJPW thing as well. It’s just I’ve seen him toss around these star ratings for a lot of free tv matches and I’m sorry, I just don’t buy it. He’s too invested in AEW.
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Post by randomone on Mar 11, 2023 14:27:22 GMT -6
Before I start, this is just one persons opinion. Dave’s ratings are so it gives people an idea of what to potentially seek out. It’s been raised to this higher level over the years that even Dave will admit, he’s just a guy.
For 94 Owen & Bret was 5 stars (it still would be today don’t get me wrong, my all time favorite Summerslam match). Would I argue if someone gave say AJ/Cena or Bryan/Cena 5 stars from Summerslam? No, it’s their opinion. But the level and quality of wrestling has increased so much over the years regardless of AEW or not. There’s been 7 stars, it’s only been increasing.
Me personally, I would’ve given Mox vs Page 5 stars. If violence cranked way up isn’t for you, then I could absolutely see a lower rating. But for what it was supposed to be, a violent war of a culmination, it delivered majorly and 5 stars.
If you look at an overall match though? MJF/Danielson could be the best Ironman of all time, so it deserves more than 5 since it (in my opinion) was better than Mox/Page.
It’s all based on different peoples opinions.
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Mar 11, 2023 14:39:06 GMT -6
Fair. Like I said I hadn’t seen either match so I’m willing to say the quality is there.
He has botched his star system though no matter how he spins it. What is a max star rating now anyway?
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