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Post by jwid on Jul 2, 2014 4:47:40 GMT -6
So I've been watching all the WWE PPVs in order since I got the network, I'm up to the middle of 2000, and I've started to realize that I totally get why Vince fires JR constantly, he's garbage juice as an announcer.
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I know it's not a popular stance, but go back and watch some of this and see how often he uses words that aren't words, calls a move incorrectly (JR is to the Tope what Michael Cole is to the powerslam) calls entire matches while referring to the people in them as completely different workers, or yells so loud his dumb drawl blows out the mic... it's brutal...
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 2, 2014 7:25:23 GMT -6
His WWF/E style has always been more loud and boisterous. I imagine that directive came straight from Vince. He may not have been the most sound announcer in WWE, but he lent an air of importance to the match that Cole and others just can't do.
Listen to JR in WCW. He was very good.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 2, 2014 15:25:43 GMT -6
The newest Countdown is Best Celebrity Involvement.
#1 is Mike Tyson
No argument.
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Post by jwid on Jul 2, 2014 16:07:49 GMT -6
Yeah I've had limited exposure to WCW JR so I'll give it a try.
And as far as celebs go, Tyson makes sense, Pete Rose should have been a lot higher. And sentimentality wants Barker moved up as well.
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Post by randomone on Jul 2, 2014 16:41:36 GMT -6
Jericho still wanting to fight Barker was my favorite part of the countdown.
Also I watched the Vickie Countdown. If you want to hear a bad music tribute, watch the last few minutes. The video isn't bad, it's the song, it's cringeworthy. Makes you really appreciate the Tell Me a Lie days in the mid 90s.
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Post by Optimisn on Jul 2, 2014 19:42:03 GMT -6
I had quite the network marathon today, and it will probably continue when I'm up all night tonight. I haven't gone this long without being able to consume water or food without turning it into a Vince skit.
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Post by jwid on Jul 2, 2014 19:58:56 GMT -6
Jericho still wanting to fight Barker was my favorite part of the countdown. This'll shock you, that's my favorite bit as well |
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Post by jwid on Jul 3, 2014 19:02:08 GMT -6
Punk winning second MiTB featured in next wrestlemania rewind on the network.
Internet, begin speculating wildly out of control now.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 3, 2014 19:08:51 GMT -6
THE ONLY REASON PUNK AGREED TO COME BACK WAS IF AJ WAS CHAMPION AND COULD TRAVEL WITH HIM. NOW SHE'S CHAMP. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU NOW SMART GUY?
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Post by jwid on Jul 3, 2014 19:43:40 GMT -6
THE ONLY REASON PUNK AGREED TO COME BACK WAS IF AJ WAS CHAMPION AND COULD TRAVEL WITH HIM. NOW SHE'S CHAMP. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU NOW SMART GUY? That you wanted to be logged in as VKM before you posted that? |
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 3, 2014 19:48:58 GMT -6
That was my Internet Smark post.
A guy like me could post lecherous dimwitted thoughts as a former billionaire.
Why not me?
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Post by Back To December KS on Jul 5, 2014 20:11:05 GMT -6
I think the only reason why the WWE Network isn't working is that it's only been around for a few months. I believe it needs time to push its platform. Time to work out the kinks, time to tap into just 10% of that passionate fan base.
With time, I think the WWE Network will be a major success. There are too many fans, there is too much content, and the value is just too good for it to fail. Ultimately, Vince McMahon may be thought of as a pioneer. If successful, the WWE may be the first of many companies that create a network so that customers can buy what they want, when they want.Read the full article here: www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/07/05/why-isnt-the-wwe-network-working.aspx
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 20:27:35 GMT -6
Random WWE Network watching...
They had on 2000 WCW Great American Bash on today. This led me to watch Bash at the Beach which was when the whole Russo-Hogan thing went down. This is a train wreck era of WCW, but it was interesting to watch knowing what we know now. I think Russo was dead-on with putting the belt on Booker. He actually booked the title matches fairly well after this from what I can remember. I know everyone shits on JJ, but he was over as a heel with the WCW fans. I think Steiner's push was warranted as well during this time period. The unfortunate part was other than Lance Storm's run, everything else Russo booked was basically trash. And his over-the-top 4th wall stuff was just too much. It never allowed me to get lost in the wrestling or story. Constantly wrestlers and announcers referred to backstage politics. It was actually in everyone's language to say during interviews or broadcast that "I will go over you tonight" or "Nash is looking to go over Steiner tonight." It just became too much. The next PPV after the Hogan/Russo shoot rant, Russo tries to do it again with Goldberg walking out of a jackknife powerbomb and leaving mid-match. It just killed me giving a shit about anything I was watching. I think Russo actually made the right decisions on who the players should be at the company. Unfortunately all the creative was so incredibly bad.
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Post by randomone on Jul 7, 2014 9:43:44 GMT -6
I didn't like how they had Booker lose to Kanyon earlier in the night & Book comes out and beats Jarrett for the title. I also didn't like the constant World title changes each week the months leading up to this show. I actually watched a bunch of Nitro/Thunders someone posted on YouTube a few months back in a row & calling it a clusterfuck is an understatement. I know people get pissy about the Arquette thing still, but putting that aside, the title changed hands every week for about a month.
Not to mention the constant heel turns, just binge watching the eps, it was hard to keep up. It was way too much. Absolutely agree that Storm was really the only good part for a while. Until they added a HEEL Hacksaw Jim Duggan to join him. And Storm didn't have shit for feuds though. Mike Awesome (Fat Chick thriller/70s Guy), The Cat (who I hated in the ring) & Hugh Morrus (who was fine, but they did the dumb General Hugh G. Rection garbage)
Bright spots were incredibly rare to find in WCW in 2000. Norman Smiley Hardcore title run & Stacy Keibler's legs were my favorites. And dancing Tank Abbott (screw you all, I thought that was funny)
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 7, 2014 15:12:35 GMT -6
Monday Night Wars Preview Tonight
As a reminder, WWE will be airing a preview of the upcoming Monday Night Wars series on the WWE Network immediately after Raw tonight at 11pm EST.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 7, 2014 15:19:42 GMT -6
Complete Content Schedule for Free Network Trial
As we previously noted, WWE will be offering another free Network trial beginning today, and the following is information regarding new WrestleMania Rewind and WWE Countdown content, plus the complete schedule for the free trial:
Monday, July 7
Raw Pre-Show – 7:30 p.m. ET
Raw Pre-Show gives fans an inside look at the Monday Night Raw storylines.
Money in the Bank 2014 Special 90-Minute Encore Presentation – 8:00 p.m. ET
The special 90-minute encore presentation includes the traditional Money in the Bank ladder match plus the eight man ladder match for the vacant WWE World Heavyweight Championship.
The Monday Night War SNEAK PEEK – Following Monday Night Raw – Approx. 11 p.m. ET
One night only, WWE Network offers a sneak peek at the new original series, Monday Night War. Coming this August, available only on WWE Network, this 20-episode original series documents the epic television ratings battle between sports entertainment icons Vince McMahon and Ted Turner. On Mondaynights in the 1990s, Turner’s World Championship Wrestling and McMahon’s Monday Night Raw aired head-to-head in primetime, defining a power struggle that rewrote the rules of television, and forever changed the face of sports entertainment.
Tuesday, July 8:
WWE Main Event – 8 p.m. ET
Now available only on WWE Network, WWE Main Event features incredible in-ring action from the WWE Superstars and Divas of Monday Night Raw and Friday Night Smackdown.
WrestleMania Rewind: Breaking the Bank – 9 p.m. ET
The Straight Edge Superstar, CM Punk, has been raging against the system ever since his WWE debut in 2006. Now, see the 'Voice of the Voiceless' shatter the glass ceiling in WWE through his performances in not one, but TWO Money-in-the-Bank ladder matches. Relive both high stakes matches from WrestleMania 24 and 25 in the entirety, and witness the rise of the 'Best in the World,’ CM Punk.
WWE Countdown: Thunderous Returns – 10 p.m. ET
WWE Countdown's Thunderous Returns takes you back to the top ten returns that are sure to give you goose bumps. From John Cena to the immortal Hulk Hogan, find out which return was voted by the WWE Universe as the most Thunderous of all time!
Wednesday, July 9:
Legends’ House Three Episode Mini Marathon – 8 p.m. ET
These men started the phenomenon known as WrestleMania and now, 30 years later, come together for the ultimate reunion. 8 WWE Legends, all under one roof, where friendships will be tested, rivalries pushed, challenges undertaken, while the laughs and tears flow.
Thursday, July 10:
Total Divas – 8 p.m. ET
Total Divas gives fans an inside look at the electric personalities, unique lifestyles and incomparable in-ring performances that have helped make WWE programming so entertaining. In this episode titled “Planet Funk Is Funked Up,” Trinity and Jon Uso must face-off in the ring; Nikki is upset when Brie wants to move to Phoenix, and JoJo's boyfriend makes her choose.
WWE NXT – 9 p.m. ET
The future is here. WWE’s hottest up and coming Superstars compete to prove they’ve got what it takes. More than just evolution, it’s a revolution! Witness the entertainers, the leading men and women, the Superstars of tomorrow – this is NXT!
Warrior: The Ultimate Legend – 10 p.m. ET
Charismatic, Loner, Enigma; Warrior has been described many ways, but above them all is Legend. Examine the most outspoken and intense WWE Superstar of all time in this revealing encore presentation of a documentary which examines the life, career and final days of The Ultimate Warrior.
Friday, July 11:
Beyond The Ring: Stone Cold Steve Austin – 8 p.m. ET
He’s one of the most popular Superstars in the history of sports entertainment with a resume that includes six WWE Championship reigns, three Royal Rumble victories, a King of the Ring Championship, and an unprecedented run of raising hell throughout WWE. Stone Cold Steve Austin continues to be both popular and controversial. With his continued movie career, the 'Texas Rattlesnake' is still a pop-culture force and there has never been a comprehensive biography done until now.
WrestleMania 13: Austin v. Hart – 10:30 p.m. ET
At WrestleMania 13 in Chicago, Stone Cold Steve Austin would experience a defining moment in his career as he took on Bret "The Hitman" Hart in a submission match. Watch as the rattlesnake goes from defiant villain to valiant hero in the span of one night, in a match that would help shape his career.
Saturday, July 12:
Saturday Night’s Main Event Three Episode Mini Marathon – 8 p.m. ET
From 1985 to 1992, Saturday Night's Main Event was a late-night staple on NBC and later Fox. WWE fans would scour the television listings each month; making sure they didn't miss the highly anticipated special that replaced network staple Saturday Night Live on occasion. Relive WWE Superstars squaring off in pay-per-view caliber matches.
8 p.m. ET: May 11, 1985
Hulk Hogan defends the WWE Championship against Bob Orton. What roles will Mr. T and Roddy Piper Play in this match? Iron Sheik and more.
9 p.m. ET: October 5, 1985
Hulk Hogan defends the WWE Title against Nikolai Volkoff in a Flag Match. Paul Orndorff battles Roddy Piper. Andre the Giant and much more.
10 p.m. ET: November 2, 1985
Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant face King Kong Bundy and Big John Studd. Tito Santana vs. Randy Savage. Terry Funk, Roddy Piper, and more.
Sunday, July 13:
WrestleMania 30 Encore Presentation – 8 p.m. ET
WWE descends upon New Orleans with its annual pop culture extravaganza, WrestleMania 30. Superstars, Divas, and Legends let the good times roll with a celebration thirty years in the making. Featuring Daniel Bryan, John Cena, The Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, Randy Orton, Batista and Triple H.
Monday, July 14:
WWE Countdown Four Episode Mini Marathon – 8 p.m. ET
WWE Countdown settles the great debates across WWE history. Who was the greatest tag team? Who was the most dangerous Diva? Who had the best catchphrase? The WWE Universe has the final say in this interactive show as their votes determine the rankings of the top 10 moments in each category across this 20-episode series.
8 p.m. ET: Coolest Catchphrases – encore presentation
WWE Countdown’s Coolest Catchphrases tells the story behind the success of the Ten Greatest Catchphrases ever recorded by a WWE Superstar. From Daniel Bryan’s Yes! To Ric Flair’s Woo! Find out which catchphrase was voted in by the WWE Universe as the coolest of all time!
9 p.m. ET: Awesome Entrances – encore presentation
WWE Countdown’s Most Awesome Entrances takes a look at ten of the most Awesome Superstar Entrances ever seen in the history of WWE. From Undertaker’s symbolic slow walk into the arena to the Ultimate Warrior’s mad dash to the ring, find out which Superstar’s Entrance was voted by the WWE Universe as the most awesome of all time!
10 p.m. ET: Biggest Trash Talkers – encore presentation
WWE Countdown's Biggest Trash Talkers ranks the top ten biggest trash talkers ever to hold a mic in WWE History. From Jake 'The Snake' Roberts mind games to the in-your-face persona of CM Punk, WWE Countdown's Biggest Trash Talkers highlights both current and former WWE Superstars to find out who the WWE Universe voted as the Biggest Trash Talker of all Time!
11 p.m. ET: Riveting Rivalries (Sneak peek at Tuesday Night’s episode)
WWE Countdown's Most Riveting Rivalries takes a look back at ten of the Biggest Rivalries ever to transpire in WWE History. From Undertaker vs. Kane to The Rock vs. John Cena, find out which rivalry was voted by the WWE Universe as the Most Riveting of all time!
New Video on Demand Content:
Saturday Night’s Main Event – The Eighties Part I (13 episodes)
Featuring such memorable moments as Hulk Hogan defending the WWE Title against “Cowboy” Bob Orton, Intercontinental Champion Tito Santana battling “Macho Man” Randy Savage, Andre the Giant and Hulk Hogan squaring off against King Kong Bundy and Big John Studd and Jake “the Snake” Roberts taking on “Macho Man” Randy Savage for the Intercontinental Championship, Mr. T facing off against “Cowboy” Bob Orton in a Boxing Match, and the Hart Foundation squaring off against the British Bulldogs for the WWE Tag Team Championship. Hosted by Vince McMahon and Jesse Ventura.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:55:10 GMT -6
Go to Smackdown Replays, Year 2003 and there is the greatest match of Smackdown sitting right there for you to watch. Ironman Match: Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar. Had no clue it was on here. Watching now.
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Post by jwid on Jul 9, 2014 21:59:22 GMT -6
I'm on the trek to watch all the wwe ppvs in order, I'm getting close to Vengance 2001, a night the great Y2J beat the rock cleanly in the middle of the ring, and then in the same night stone cold cleanly in the middle of the ring to become the first (you hear me Cole. First.) Undisputed champion of the world. I'm very excited
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Post by Back To December KS on Jul 9, 2014 22:10:25 GMT -6
I'm on the trek to watch all the wwe ppvs in order, I'm getting close to Vengance 2001, a night the great Y2J beat the rock cleanly in the middle of the ring, and then in the same night stone cold cleanly in the middle of the ring to become the first (you hear me Cole. First.) Undisputed champion of the world. I'm very excited  Probably, no not probably, DEFINITELY the greatest day in the history of pro wrestling. |
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Post by jwid on Jul 13, 2014 5:09:26 GMT -6
Re-watching the Y2J WrestleMania Rewind (Shocker)
Now, as an orioles fan, I love Gary Thorne and his peanut butter mixed with velvet voice (Fuck you Joe Buck) but as a wrestling fan, I've gotta say I really wish that they would get someone else to do the voice work. Gary doesn't seem to even be a fan, I'm fairly positive he just called Snuka "Jimmy Superfly Sundee"
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 24, 2014 15:07:13 GMT -6
The next wave of Network subscribers comes out next week.
This could be bad. Like real bad.
If the numbers aren't at at least 900K, Vince might be looking at another $100+M in losses.
FWIW I think the number will be about 925K. Whether that's real or not I don't know.
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Post by Back To December KS on Jul 24, 2014 15:11:46 GMT -6
They've done (or somebody has), a great job at eliminating sites like Nutjob, WHSports etc..... Enough in fact, that I'm now a subscriber.  The one thing that I don't know how they combat, is that all anybody needs is a Network valid email to sign in. Score Jr tells me that various people just use the same email. I don't know all the details or validity to that, but I wonder how they can overcome that kind of problem. |
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Post by jwid on Jul 24, 2014 23:18:27 GMT -6
They've done (or somebody has), a great job at eliminating sites like Nutjob, WHSports etc..... Enough in fact, that I'm now a subscriber. The one thing that I don't know how they combat, is that all anybody needs is a Network valid email to sign in. Score Jr tells me that various people just use the same email. I don't know all the details or validity to that, but I wonder how they can overcome that kind of problem. It can't be that difficult, Netflix accounts only work on 2 devices at a time, but the Network seems to have no limit on how many devices can be signed in at once. That's a problem they definitely need to fix. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 8:59:48 GMT -6
A couple of notes from my Network viewings...
I never watched RAW when it first started. It was right around the time I was not interested in WWF and barely interested in wrestling at all. I had switched to WCW for occassional watching. I've now seen the first 60 episodes. Obviously I didn't miss much. There was a lot of bad during this period as we all know. I'd like to touch upon some things that I did enjoy about the first 60. These are in no ranking order.
1. Johnny Polo: Almost every time he was on air he was entertaining. I'm not for sure what the wrestling historians thought of Raven's former alter ego, but I found him to be a classic heel with great heat. I loved his character. To me, he did everything you are supposed to do as a heel manager. I never really knew much about the Quebecers, but looking back now that whole ensemble was a bright spot for RAW IMO.
2. Vince McMahon and Randy Savage: OK, now this one is what I consider "Good-Bad." They both are actually a total disaster calling RAW, but I love their cold opens and closes to the show. Vince seemed to be genuinely happy in this era. You read about how he and Randy were actually pretty close at one time. At least on camera, it definitely comes off this way. They seem to be having a blast and entertaining each other at times. They have some moments on the show that crack me up.
3. Razor Ramon: If you had to name the wrestler that carried RAW week after week over the first 60 episodes, it was clearly Razor Ramon. Seems like he was on TV every week, usually in the best match of the show (which I know isn't saying much), and he just oozed charisma. I have a new found respect for him in his place in WWF history. I get inducting "Razor Ramon" even more now than I did before.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 26, 2014 18:18:19 GMT -6
Robbins Arroyo LLP, a California based law firm, announced Friday it filed a class action lawsuit against WWE in the U.S. District Court for the District of Connecticut.
The law firm says it is representing "all persons who purchased WWE securities between October 31, 2013 and May 16, 2014." The suit is against WWE and "certain officers and directors" who the firm alleges violated SEC Rules.
The complaint is based on alleged "false and misleading statements concerning the company's ability to double the value of Its U.S. Television License Agreement."
Robbins Arroyo cited WWE making several statements "regarding the ability of the Company to transform its earning profile through, among other things, the negotiation of a lucrative long-term television deal."
However, WWE's renewal with NBC Universal came in below expectations, prompting a sell-off of WWE stock in mid-May. Robbins alleges that WWE misled investors on the potential monetary value of WWE's TV renewal by omitting key factors of advertising rates and the effect of the WWE Network launch.
"These statements downplayed the fact that advertisers pay less to reach WWE viewers than traditional sports or other shows on the USA Network and the negative impact on the television license negotiations resulting from the Company's launch of its WWE Network," Robbins wrote.
The press release continues that shareholders have 60 days from July 25 to "serve as lead plaintiff" in the lawsuit against WWE if they choose to. Robbins aims to "seek relief on behalf of the named plaintiffs and all other similarly situated shareholders of WWE" during the period of Oct. 31, 2013 to May 16.
Robbins Arroyo LLP’s mission statement, as published on their website, is to "hold corporations and their fiduciaries accountable when their misconduct harms shareholders, employees, or consumers. Dedicated to plaintiff representation in complex litigation, our law firm’s practice areas include securities fraud, corporate mergers and acquisitions, shareholder derivative, antitrust, ERISA, whistleblower, consumer, and employment litigation."
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Post by Vincent Kennedy McMahon on Jul 26, 2014 19:27:47 GMT -6
HAVING PAUL HIRE AN NXT MIDGET TO BE RENAMED ARROYO ROBBINS.
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Post by Vincent Kennedy McMahon on Jul 26, 2014 19:54:38 GMT -6
ON MY WAY TO A FUCKPAD IN WISCONSIN. I KNOW. FOOL ME ONCE.......FUCK YOU. IF YOU NEED ME, I WILL HAVE MY PAGER. FUCK YOU.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 20:08:05 GMT -6
Opponent oho oh lhoikhhhh duck. Has we at never emevrverver getting back towhee the. You don't talk to we can talk totoibdont talk to me!! Look époque we at enevevemenr ever getting ducking bakcntmlt gethe t youdfuck you talus facility tou or he ass Taylor easier fuck yea duck you taller in the asshole giro king Taylor tkofick
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Post by Back To December KS on Jul 26, 2014 20:14:10 GMT -6
Opponent oho oh lhoikhhhh duck. Has we at never emevrverver getting back towhee the. You don't talk to we can talk totoibdont talk to me!! Look époque we at enevevemenr ever getting ducking bakcntmlt gethe t youdfuck you talus facility tou or he ass Taylor easier fuck yea duck you taller in the asshole giro king Taylor tkofick  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 21:11:01 GMT -6
Let sick tYlog.would duck ghi shut out of tZulor swift
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