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Post by Optimisn on Apr 15, 2014 23:05:14 GMT -6
watching MainEvent... Is 'swoggle replacing Slater in 2.5MB? or is this a one off waste of how entertaining they might be able to be if given the chance? Hornswoggle needs more TV time. That's right, I said it. He's entertaining, and he's a little person. Wonderful combo for professional wrestling. |
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Post by jwid on Apr 15, 2014 23:05:32 GMT -6
watching MainEvent... Is 'swoggle replacing Slater in 2.5MB? or is this a one off waste of how entertaining they might be able to be if given the chance? Or more likely now that I've seen the whole segment, Hornswoggle v. Torito HIAC @ Extreme Rules. Book it. |
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Post by November KS on Apr 15, 2014 23:07:52 GMT -6
watching MainEvent... Is 'swoggle replacing Slater in 2.5MB? or is this a one off waste of how entertaining they might be able to be if given the chance? Hornswoggle needs more TV time. That's right, I said it. He's entertaining, and he's a little person. Wonderful combo for professional wrestling. Take that back. |
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Post by jwid on Apr 15, 2014 23:11:14 GMT -6
watching MainEvent... Is 'swoggle replacing Slater in 2.5MB? or is this a one off waste of how entertaining they might be able to be if given the chance? Hornswoggle needs more TV time. That's right, I said it. He's entertaining, and he's a little person. Wonderful combo for professional wrestling. get 6 more, set up a tournament, and give one of those world titles to the minis division!! |
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Post by Optimisn on Apr 15, 2014 23:11:53 GMT -6
I will not. Also, I spent roughly 35 minutes yesterday with a WWE Network tech. I think she said her name was Alice, but I'm pretty sure she knew Great Khali. We didn't get the main issue figured out, but at least the network works again.
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Post by jwid on Apr 15, 2014 23:13:26 GMT -6
Hornswoggle needs more TV time. That's right, I said it. He's entertaining, and he's a little person. Wonderful combo for professional wrestling. Take that back. Hey, this Heel turn means he's had more character development in the last year than the Miz, who if I remember correctly (like he's ever going to let us forget long enough to misremember) beat John Cena in the main event of WrestleMania 27.
#Heelswoggle
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Post by Optimisn on Apr 15, 2014 23:13:32 GMT -6
Hornswoggle needs more TV time. That's right, I said it. He's entertaining, and he's a little person. Wonderful combo for professional wrestling. get 6 more, set up a tournament, and give one of those world titles to the minis division!! I was telling Keeping Score I won't take my thoughts back. I'll set up a midget tournament Michael!!! I'd love to see those little bastards fly all over!!! |
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Post by November KS on Apr 15, 2014 23:14:41 GMT -6
I would be fine with Hornswoggle if he never ran through an imaginary tunnel in the wall, or held court in an imaginary court under the ring, or actually went over people.
Unfortunately, ALL of that has happened.
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Post by jwid on Apr 15, 2014 23:16:00 GMT -6
You don't find him a credible Cruiserweight Champion?
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Post by Optimisn on Apr 15, 2014 23:21:14 GMT -6
I would be fine with Hornswoggle if he never ran through an imaginary tunnel in the wall, or held court in an imaginary court under the ring, or actually went over people. Unfortunately, ALL of that has happened. Your dancing hatred made everything come full circle for me with your thoughts. You're not going to have everyone be a worker. Santino, Hornswoggle, etc. segments are necessary to elevate others. If every match is "super serious important" people get confused. I loved when people were complaining about the Divas match being the "co-main!" No. It was a chiller. Imagine how dead the crowd would be for the Main if Taker had just lost. They were already dead! Hornswoggle did end up with a little too much of a role four or five years ago. But I'd hire him. |
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Post by November KS on Apr 15, 2014 23:23:43 GMT -6
I can barely talk about Hornswoggle. It's one of my worst experiences of my life. The night when he was introduced as Vince's bastard kid instead of Mr. Kennedy. Score Jr and I were there in Green Bay.  |
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Post by jwid on Apr 15, 2014 23:24:46 GMT -6
speaking of Divas... is AJ gone???
She was the champ a week ago and haven't seen her since, no mention of her rematch, and she didn't appear in the #1 contenders match that had "every diva in the locker room"
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Post by November KS on Apr 15, 2014 23:29:16 GMT -6
I would be fine with Hornswoggle if he never ran through an imaginary tunnel in the wall, or held court in an imaginary court under the ring, or actually went over people. Unfortunately, ALL of that has happened. Your dancing hatred made everything come full circle for me with your thoughts. You're not going to have everyone be a worker. Santino, Hornswoggle, etc. segments are necessary to elevate others. If every match is "super serious important" people get confused. I loved when people were complaining about the Divas match being the "co-main!" No. It was a chiller. Imagine how dead the crowd would be for the Main if Taker had just lost. They were already dead! Hornswoggle did end up with a little too much of a role four or five years ago. But I'd hire him. I can only be insulted so much though. There JUST CANT be an imaginary tunnel in a brick wall that people go through. There JUST CANT be a Little People's Court under the ring. Now granted, those weren't his ideas - I hope - but I still take it out on him. It's unacceptable. And seriously, he can NEVER go over anybody unless it's another little person. That's my problem with him. Some comedy in wrestling is good, as long as it's not Cena's or something corny/completely unbelievable. But I'm cool with jobbers etc. There should be more of it. Kenny Jaye and ScrapIron Gadaski were very much appreciated by a young KS. |
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Post by November KS on Apr 15, 2014 23:43:32 GMT -6
speaking of Divas... is AJ gone??? She was the champ a week ago and haven't seen her since, no mention of her rematch, and she didn't appear in the #1 contenders match that had "every diva in the locker room" I'm sure she is (gone). Perhaps she can be talked into a rematch dealio but I doubt it. I said it somewhere recently on here that I don't give her more than 60 days left with the E. The reported engagement to Punk - if true - pretty much sealed the deal for me. Neither one of them have a very proven track record of lengthy relationships and 300 days a year away from each other just SCREAMS of something that wouldn't work. Plus the ladies are usually VERY LOYAL to their guys when there's a dispute of any type. So I can't see her continue to work 300 days a year for people and amongst people that many of which Punk can't stand. Apparently. |
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Post by jwid on Apr 16, 2014 4:05:25 GMT -6
More talk of HHH wanting the WWE to put on a WarGames match at some point, and apparently a lot of fans want to see it too... Can anybody tell me why?? Those matches were garbage. The 2 rings took up a ton of space, having a normal cage around them looked stupid, any time you have a match where one team gets a numbers advantage just due to the rules of the match saying it's so just looks stupid, and when they can't take advantage and just take complete control LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU HAD 2 PRO ATHLETES BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF SOMEONE, they look weak and incompetent.
WarGames blew in WCW, it blows when TNA tries to bastardize the rules and call it "Lethal Lockdown", and it'll blow in WWE, especially with how quickly fans get bored and just turn on terrible, boring matches.
Over under is set at 1.5 minutes before the fans start chanting for an announcer, ref, or just a straight boring chant.
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Post by Bob Loblaw on Apr 16, 2014 6:16:22 GMT -6
Just yesterday, a script for this past Monday night's episode of Raw was leaked that showed both AJ Lee and CM Punk listed as "injured". Naturally, fans reacted in wonder regarding what this means about the status of both. Bryan Alvarez addressed as much in the latest edition of the Bryan & Vinny Show at the Wrestling Observer:
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"For those of you asking about why AJ and CM Punk were listed on the injured reserve (on the leaked Raw script), that list does not necessarily mean 'injured'. It is a place that you put people and by putting them in the injured reserve list, people ask fewer questions. That's how it was described to me. I believe that AJ asked for time off. She's not hurt, and obviously CM Punk is not hurt. Punk, like I said, I don't expect to see him back. AJ will probably be back but she's also engaged to CM Punk and you never know. Far more likely she will be back but right now she's on hiatus."
AJ had her near 300-day title reign abruptly come to an end when she was pinned in short order by a debuting Paige on the April 7, 2014, episode of Raw the night after WrestleMania 30. When she failed to appear on SmackDown, Raw, and then a number one contender battle royal was held on Main Event last night and she wasn't a part of it, questions were raised.
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Apr 16, 2014 6:34:01 GMT -6
More talk of HHH wanting the WWE to put on a WarGames match at some point, and apparently a lot of fans want to see it too... Can anybody tell me why?? Those matches were garbage. The 2 rings took up a ton of space, having a normal cage around them looked stupid, any time you have a match where one team gets a numbers advantage just due to the rules of the match saying it's so just looks stupid, and when they can't take advantage and just take complete control LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU HAD 2 PRO ATHLETES BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF SOMEONE, they look weak and incompetent. WarGames blew in WCW, it blows when TNA tries to bastardize the rules and call it "Lethal Lockdown", and it'll blow in WWE, especially with how quickly fans get bored and just turn on terrible, boring matches. Over under is set at 1.5 minutes before the fans start chanting for an announcer, ref, or just a straight boring chant. I agree. I would rather see a Survivor Series style match. |
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Post by Bob Loblaw on Apr 16, 2014 6:37:56 GMT -6
Exactly. Survivor Series is definitely they way to go. If they have to have a cage of some sort, use the Chamber with it fitting six.
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Post by cij79 on Apr 16, 2014 7:21:11 GMT -6
They should just do a tower of doom match and completely kill the company.
Hi WCW how you doing?
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Apr 16, 2014 7:50:00 GMT -6
BRING BACK THE PUNJABI PRISON MATCH!
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Apr 16, 2014 7:55:03 GMT -6
But seriously, an Elimination Chamber match is the same basic concept as the Wargames match. A new guy enters every 5 minutes.
And the early Wargames matches in WCW were great. The Horsemen vs. Dusty, Road Warriors, Nikita Koloff/Sting always were presented as huge deals.
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Post by Optimisn on Apr 16, 2014 9:11:40 GMT -6
But seriously, an Elimination Chamber match is the same basic concept as the Wargames match. A new guy enters every 5 minutes. And the early Wargames matches in WCW were great. The Horsemen vs. Dusty, Road Warriors, Nikita Koloff/Sting always were presented as huge deals. I agree with everything here. Unless they do a Punjabi Prison with Stephanie on a Pole match. |
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Post by Bob Loblaw on Apr 16, 2014 9:29:37 GMT -6
Sadly, I saw the Batista vs Khali punjabi match at the allstate in 07 in think..?
I don't think they'll do a War Games match based solely on the fact they won't get rid of the seats (income) on the floor to make room for 2 rings. Pissing away too much $$.
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Post by Hawg Ass on Apr 16, 2014 10:39:02 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Apr 17, 2014 15:04:48 GMT -6
The HHH documentary was very good.
I said it.
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Post by Optimisn on Apr 17, 2014 15:49:53 GMT -6
The HHH documentary was very good. I said it. It's very good. I've heard people say liberties are taken with his overall impact as a performer. Perhaps people made the boss a touch above reality. But it was still solid. |
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Apr 17, 2014 16:49:17 GMT -6
It's one of the only times Taker appears out of character, which adds to the dvd.
And the stuff with his and the McMahon family was cool to see.
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Post by November KS on Apr 17, 2014 21:54:46 GMT -6
How was Legends House? Anybody see it or everybody watching Sox/Blackhawks?
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Post by cij79 on Apr 18, 2014 7:37:16 GMT -6
Heard on Twitter that it was beyond bad.
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Post by jwid on Apr 18, 2014 11:08:51 GMT -6
I watched it! it was ok, the first episode of shows like that is always pretty bad because nobody knows how the show is structured or anything yet. I love Piper, Hart, Okurland, the Fink, and the rest I don't know a lot about so that's a nice balance. Now if they just do a better job having a reason to get in a fight they'll be good to go, but last night they'd just go from the first thing said, right to the top of the fight, so we don't see how it escalates... we'll see, no verdict until at least week 3.
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