What to do at Survivor Series

A heel turn at Survivor Series for Cena would never happen. If he ever turns (which he won't), it would have to be at Mania.

I'm sticking with Sheamus to be the one to turn. Rusev is now your US champ (put him with Ryback after this PPV), Ziggler is going to be busy with Harper (hopefully for a while, I dig that feud), the Authority has a new heel to get behind in Sheamus & throw out there all the time. Rollins, Kane, Sheamus and then Cena, Orton & Reigns comes back. You could do that for a while. Henry & Show just go aimlessly.

Rusev vs Ryback
Henry vs Show (ugh)
Rollins vs Orton
Cena vs Sheamus
Harper vs Ziggler
Wyatt vs Ambrose

Those are my picks for the TLC PPV. I know they have another Brock/Cena match to do. I have no clue what they'll do with Brock before Mania.

What will that really do for them though?

Will it draw new viewers? You could argue it would drive the kids who root for Cena away.

Will it draw more Network subscriptions? I'd say the people who want a Cena heel turn are the hardcore longtime fans who most likely are already subscribed.

Will it draw more money in merchandise? It would probably lose them money as Cena is the biggest merch seller by a wide margin.

So other than to appease people they have basically said they don't care about, there really is no reason to turn Cena.

Now if there are others who surpass him in the next few years and Cena is the 4th or 5th guy, then a Hoganesque turn could make financial sense.

Face it.

We do not matter to the WWE.

We are a minority of the audience.

In an old school wrestling way, yes I want to see Cena turn heel. But all of Speeps points are valid. It's possible they're laying the seeds for a future turn. Hunter started indirectly referencing Hogan in that promo. Hogan wasn't the only draw, and was getting booed out of southern buildings. I understand Cena has been getting booed for eight years. But this isn't 1996, 1986......hell, it isn't even 2006.

That is the one reason I can never see it happening though Vince probably only cares solely about the bottom line.  You can't build him up into the hero of all of these sick children and then rip that away from them.  I would rather he just become a part time wrestler and increase his out of the ring work and stay the hell away from the main event stage. 

I agree that something big has to come out of this PPV. This will be the most watched PPV/Network and is a chance to draw snd hook subscribers with an event.

I just don't think turning Cena is even on the WWE radar. Their thinking will probably lead to a debut of NXT guys again.

Well sure but I don't think that would be a significant enough happening to grow network subscriptions.

The Indy fan in me says, Steen, Generico, KENTA & Devitt, bring them up and lay everyone out! But they did that already with The Shield. So sadly I don't see that as an option. Also considering Devitt & KENTA are just getting started in NXT & Steen's vignettes are being shot now. Plus The Authority is their faction right now & I see that lasting until Mania when their champion Lesnar is defeated by whomever. I'm assuming Reigns.

More realistically this whole Authority thing has involved top guys, so anything less than that would be pointless. The kids love Sheamus, he still draws a strong reaction. So having him turn on the fans wouldn't be a major blow to merch since he doesn't sell a ridiculous obscene amount. Kids will be bummed, but they could also play the whole "when HHH faced Sheamus at wrestlemania, he was a killer, but somehow, someway he lost that drive, that killer instinct & that's exactly what he has back now". He did nothing but get lost in the shuffle when he was cheered by the fans.

Turning Sheamus is just a big enough turn that they can work off of for the next few months to get them to Mania. Not as pointless as a Henry turn would've been & not nearly as big as a Cena turn. Right in the middle.

Have The Authority win, get their next soldier on their side & absolutely dominate the next month. Have the commentators stop making puns for 2 seconds & put over how The Authority are now absolutely unstoppable. Who can beat them? Then have Orton come back. Then have Reigns come back. Now you have even sides heading into or right at the Rumble into Mania.

Thinking this much about the current product knowing full well they'll either fuck it up or do nothing at all makes me tired.

You know what really sucks? Nowhere in this thread was Cesaro mentioned. Stupid E.

I don't see them releasing him, I don't think WWE is that stupid (then again they're plugging Grumpy Cat, so you never know). I still have hope that he'll get a push, it just won't be any time soon. He'll keep doing what he's doing, putting on fantastic matches & lose every one of them.

I'd say it's because of his Cena/Orton comment, but he wasn't doing much even before then. Those comments sure didn't help though.

Henry & Show have no reason to be in that match. I would've gone Swagger & Cesaro, but both guys have pretty much stalled since they got pushed. It's not like they don't get a reaction. Swagger was the most over I've ever seen him against Rusev, now he's forgotten.

I would say Hogan was pretty essential in the nWo...

You're serious? Wow.

i love Scott Hall and Nash is fine by me but I'd say without the Hogan heel turn it doesn't get as over as it does from a mainstream standpoint which is exactly what drives merch over the top of a regular seller. 

I think Hall and Nash were clearly the cooler guys but Hogan once again was the difference in terms on the mainstream factor. I was talking simply moving merch, not in-ring or promo ability at that point.