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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 11, 2016 6:44:27 GMT -6
 Someone FINALLY vists the Wyatt Compound. It should have been Cena 3 years ago, but New Day could work. |
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Post by Danny Busch on Jul 11, 2016 18:01:34 GMT -6
Nothing Vince does tonight can be as bad as listening to Berman do the HR derby.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 18:11:53 GMT -6
Miz is the best commentator right now...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 18:12:41 GMT -6
Is this Darren young first match since the vignettes? If so he had to win right?
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Post by Optimisn on Jul 11, 2016 18:13:18 GMT -6
They really seem to be projecting an Uso singles run. Don't care.
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Post by randomone on Jul 11, 2016 18:16:34 GMT -6
Darren Young has been wrestling Miz on house shows. Plus, Backlund is with him.
He's definitely winning this.
Groan.
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Post by randomone on Jul 11, 2016 18:17:48 GMT -6
They should've had Backlund come to the ring after the battle royal. Pretty much a dead giveaway having him out there with him.
Please don't have Darren Young become IC champ heading into the brand split.
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Post by Optimisn on Jul 11, 2016 18:20:46 GMT -6
Darren Young chants from the Detroit crowd. Why not? Did you see Backlund run when Darren went in for the hug?
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Post by randomone on Jul 11, 2016 18:25:05 GMT -6
Keeping kayfabe here.... Maybe Vince is coming to Raw tonight to tell his kids to stop fucking taking vacations so close to the draft?  Feels like it's been 5 weeks since we've seen Shane. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 18:25:55 GMT -6
Darren Young has been wrestling Miz on house shows. Plus, Backlund is with him. He's definitely winning this. Groan. I don't mind this for the simple fact that they were patient with the vignettes. Even if they were dumb and I hate Backlund, it was a throwback to how they used to do things. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 18:26:26 GMT -6
The Rollins Report!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 18:28:11 GMT -6
Oh cool. They are going to do a RAW segment on Battleground.
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Post by Optimisn on Jul 11, 2016 18:28:27 GMT -6
They are doing a good job of making Orton seem like a pretty big deal.
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Post by randomone on Jul 11, 2016 18:29:43 GMT -6
I'm fine with it, but I've just never been a fan of Darren Young as a wrestler. Backlund is the only good thing about this.
Backlund & Maryse interaction should be funny at least.
Hope it isn't a multi-month feud though.
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Post by Steely Don on Jul 11, 2016 18:31:38 GMT -6
Lesnar/Orton right now is a stupid match no matter what happens.
It doesn't do anything for either one regardless of who wins, and it sure doesn't help the guy that puts the other one over.
Dumb as dumb gets.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 18:34:38 GMT -6
Lesnar/Orton right now is a stupid match no matter what happens. It doesn't do anything for either one regardless of who wins, and it sure doesn't help the guy that puts the other one over. Dumb as dumb gets. Totally disagree. It's a wrestlemania main event type match. There's nothing wrong with just having two of your all-time greats go at it. They both deliver 95%+ of the time on the pay per view stage. Not every match has to elevate someone. This is a spectacle match. I'm very much looking forward to it. |
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Post by Steely Don on Jul 11, 2016 18:34:50 GMT -6
Nothing Vince does tonight can be as bad as listening to Berman do the HR derby. You tell me how the two boobs babbling like coked-up teens right now during Stanton's appearance are better than Berman. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 18:37:02 GMT -6
Rusev trimming up for the wedding?
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Post by randomone on Jul 11, 2016 18:43:11 GMT -6
Who else would you put Brock against that hasn't been done a bunch before?
The Shield Boys he's already had matches with.
Cena he's destroyed
Taker he's destroyed
Big Show he's destroyed
Triple H he's destroyed
Jericho? As much as I'd love the promos, I don't want that.
Kevin Owens? I would love that, but they haven't positioned KO as a main event guy yet
Wyatt? He's already mowed over every Wyatt Family member prior to Bray's injury. Now he's in a tag title feud.
Orton honestly makes the most sense and like I've said before, it's new. Someone Brock has never wrestled on PPV, EVER. I'm all for it.
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Post by Steely Don on Jul 11, 2016 18:43:47 GMT -6
"(It's) like calling a match in a kaleidoscope." lol
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 11, 2016 18:49:23 GMT -6
Lesnar/Orton right now is a stupid match no matter what happens. It doesn't do anything for either one regardless of who wins, and it sure doesn't help the guy that puts the other one over. Dumb as dumb gets. Totally disagree. It's a wrestlemania main event type match. There's nothing wrong with just having two of your all-time greats go at it. They both deliver 95%+ of the time on the pay per view stage. Not every match has to elevate someone. This is a spectacle match. I'm very much looking forward to it. Disagree. You have Brock Lesnar being viewed as BROCK LESNAR again. You push him to the moon and make him your biggest fucking draw again. That unfortunately puts Orton in a bad spot because Brock should roll through everyone. |
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Post by Steely Don on Jul 11, 2016 18:53:29 GMT -6
I don't know .... feed him Del Rio .... play up his MMA time too (was he some low-level champ?) .... move Brock away from Suplexing everyone and give it a more grappling feel .... I don't know.
It just seems pointless, on top of the 'what's the benefit of going over' issue, because for a first-ever (on ppv) 'spectacle match', 13 days out neither person appears on TV to work, cut a promo, shit in a bag, whatever.
I don't hate the match, I hate the booking, but that's not new for me. I'm old and hate everything anyway.
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Post by randomone on Jul 11, 2016 18:54:46 GMT -6
Exactly, Brock rolls through Orton. But the fight & effort that Orton puts up will make him still seem like a threat once the match is over.
Make Orton push Brock to his fucking limit. Last time Cena fought Brock, Cena got squashed. Ambrose got steamrolled. Wyatss got steamrolled.
Have Orton get the best of him during the match, put up a hell of a fight, but Brock ultimately wins.
Orton gets the rub. It benefits him IMO.
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Post by Steely Don on Jul 11, 2016 18:55:59 GMT -6
How does a person obtain footage of themselves that they recorded themselves?
I went out and obtained my car this morning.
But, you've owned that car for 7 years.
True, and I obtained it this morning to go get a hooker.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 11, 2016 18:56:03 GMT -6
Exactly, Brock rolls through Orton. But the fight & effort that Orton puts up will make him still seem like a threat once the match is over. Make Orton push Brock to his fucking limit. Last time Cena fought Brock, Cena got squashed. Ambrose got steamrolled. Wyatss got steamrolled. Have Orton get the best of him during the match, put up a hell of a fight, but Brock ultimately wins. Orton gets the rub. It benefits him IMO. See I think Orton should get treated like Cena did a couple years ago and get mauled. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 18:56:39 GMT -6
Totally disagree. It's a wrestlemania main event type match. There's nothing wrong with just having two of your all-time greats go at it. They both deliver 95%+ of the time on the pay per view stage. Not every match has to elevate someone. This is a spectacle match. I'm very much looking forward to it. Disagree. You have Brock Lesnar being viewed as BROCK LESNAR again. You push him to the moon and make him your biggest fucking draw again. That unfortunately puts Orton in a bad spot because Brock should roll through everyone. You can have Brock beat the shit out of Orton but still have the match go 12 minutes. Let's not forget just a couple summers ago we watched John Cena get his ads kicked in a squash match. Or they can have Orton continue to take a beating but just not got quietly into that good night. Make Orton look strong while Brock still wins. We need to keep in mind they need to sell network buys. Orton-Lesnar hasn't happened. I'm not really for sure what you guys are looking for right now but this makes the most sense right now. To me they are making this match appear as if it's as unpredictable as an MMA match. There are winners and losers and in UFC it doesn't matter who is supposed to win. I feel like they are doing that here with the big match feel. It's not about elevation. It's about draw. Sometimes we need to just enjoy pro wrestling and the actual match. This has potential to be the best match on the card. If that's the case, you still believe it's a bad idea? I think shitting on this before giving it a shot is very grumpy of you all. |
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Post by Steely Don on Jul 11, 2016 18:57:36 GMT -6
Orton coming off an injury for how long now, in his first match back, pushes the baddest person on the planet to his limit?
This makes good sense kayfabe how?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 18:59:12 GMT -6
Orton coming off an injury for how long now, in his first match back, pushes the baddest person on the planet to his limit? This makes good sense kayfabe how? You have vignettes showing him training for the match of his life. We still have like 6 weeks before this match. I think it can be done. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 19:00:16 GMT -6
I don't know .... feed him Del Rio .... play up his MMA time too (was he some low-level champ?) .... move Brock away from Suplexing everyone and give it a more grappling feel .... I don't know. It just seems pointless, on top of the 'what's the benefit of going over' issue, because for a first-ever (on ppv) 'spectacle match', 13 days out neither person appears on TV to work, cut a promo, shit in a bag, whatever. I don't hate the match, I hate the booking, but that's not new for me. I'm old and hate everything anyway. It's not 13 days out. It's like six weeks. |
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Post by randomone on Jul 11, 2016 19:00:36 GMT -6
Exactly, Brock rolls through Orton. But the fight & effort that Orton puts up will make him still seem like a threat once the match is over. Make Orton push Brock to his fucking limit. Last time Cena fought Brock, Cena got squashed. Ambrose got steamrolled. Wyatss got steamrolled. Have Orton get the best of him during the match, put up a hell of a fight, but Brock ultimately wins. Orton gets the rub. It benefits him IMO. See I think Orton should get treated like Cena did a couple years ago and get mauled. I wouldn't mind that either, but you have to think, Brock will leave again & Orton is still there, presumably as a top face/heel on whatever brand he is on. You could build off "how I pushed Brock to his absolute limit!" to at least make Orton strong in defeat & not just another casualty.
I think they did that with Cena because they needed Brock to look like a monster champion. It did the trick. Not necessary for that now, seeing as everyone knows it again.
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