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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 23, 2024 22:12:30 GMT -6
I don't think he has the work ethic to do anything other than WWE.
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Post by Ryansback on Sept 24, 2024 8:45:58 GMT -6
It seems like they brought Lana in for him I didn't even add that part. AEW has pretty much everything he could have wanted for him. This is silly on his part or there's some backstage shit he caused or something he didn't like. |
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Post by Ryansback on Sept 24, 2024 8:46:37 GMT -6
I don't think he has the work ethic to do anything other than WWE. Currently he's healthy and doing nothing in AEW. This is about as easy as it gets. |
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Post by November KS on Sept 24, 2024 12:25:44 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 24, 2024 12:34:48 GMT -6
Oh Darby. You've lost KS now.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 24, 2024 12:45:28 GMT -6
Speaking to his larger point, though, as long as everyone is on the same page then being the super niche guys is awesome. Book for your fans. Everyone has to understand that you aren't going to be a mainstream draw, including your TV and media partners.
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Post by randomone on Sept 26, 2024 9:36:13 GMT -6
I can already hear the eyes roll from damn near every one of you, haha
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 26, 2024 9:47:42 GMT -6
Good for Shane to keep taking pictures with fans.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 26, 2024 10:09:30 GMT -6
Good for Shane to keep taking pictures with fans.  |
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Post by November KS on Sept 26, 2024 12:52:02 GMT -6
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Sept 26, 2024 14:41:34 GMT -6
They are kind of like unicorns, wouldn't you agree KS?  |
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Post by November KS on Sept 26, 2024 14:43:44 GMT -6
I can't stand you.
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Post by Ryansback on Sept 27, 2024 7:08:29 GMT -6
Apparently Tony Khan said this last week that long term booking is dead in wrestling? Can someone confirm this before I add this to my list of why Tony sucks as a wrestling booker?
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 27, 2024 8:56:48 GMT -6
randomone's boss Bryan said that Tony said it. I don't know if it's true.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 27, 2024 8:59:13 GMT -6
Uncle Dave is saying Tony is tacking on nearly a year of injury time to Fenix's contract so he won't be able to go to WWE.
Really sad he'd do that to a guy who did nothing but work his ass off for AEW.
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Post by randomone on Sept 27, 2024 9:09:57 GMT -6
randomone's boss Bryan said that Tony said it. I don't know if it's true. Bryan is a colleague. My boss is actually Lance Storm. Get it right. |
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Post by randomone on Sept 27, 2024 9:13:29 GMT -6
On one hand, Tony should’ve probably just let Fenix go when their deals are up. AEW said they’re different from WWE, who, let’s be honest, would NEVER allow a talent to go to a competitor without tacking on “injury time” (Brodie Lee being a huge example).
On the other, maybe Tony is/was pissed that the Lucha Bros were negotiating while still under contract? That’s not cool.
In any case, I would let them go, but I understand why he’s keeping Fenix. Even if I disagree with the reasoning.
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Sept 27, 2024 10:25:43 GMT -6
Why wouldn't they negotiate while under contract? That is a normal thing. When you change jobs you don't wait until you are done with one before you start looking for another.
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Post by randomone on Sept 27, 2024 11:12:15 GMT -6
Hasn’t it always been frowned upon in wrestling, no matter the promotion? I know guys have done it (Hall/Nash immediately come to mind), but I just figured it’s a wait til you’re up to start negotiating.
If Tony actually is adding on more time (again, I don’t think he should), then he needs to use Fenix on TV then. Having him iced for a year is ridiculous. He’s under your contract, use him.
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Post by randomone on Sept 27, 2024 13:29:44 GMT -6
Apparently they didn’t negotiate with WWE yet and weren’t legally able to do so.
If that’s the case, again, let Fenix go. If not, use him then. Get matches out of him while he’s healthy. Icing him a year puts a bad light on Tony & AEW and you don’t need that kind of publicity.
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Sept 27, 2024 14:25:22 GMT -6
I'm gonna need an internet lawyer to explain this to me. Obviously the Lucha Bros cannot sign a contract with WWE while under AEW contract, but why would they not be able to discuss terms ahead of time to see if it is even going to happen? or worth it for either side. Its not tampering as WWE is waiting for the expiration of their current deal and they aren't trying to get out of their current deal. Maybe wrestlers just need agents.
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 27, 2024 15:49:29 GMT -6
I'm gonna need an internet lawyer to explain this to me. Obviously the Lucha Bros cannot sign a contract with WWE while under AEW contract, but why would they not be able to discuss terms ahead of time to see if it is even going to happen? or worth it for either side. Its not tampering as WWE is waiting for the expiration of their current deal and they aren't trying to get out of their current deal. Maybe wrestlers just need agents. I believe there's a negotiation window where it isn't tampering. |
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 27, 2024 17:18:31 GMT -6
Swerve seemingly changing his story in regards to tampering and contact with WWE.
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 27, 2024 18:09:13 GMT -6
As I understand it, most if not all of these people have some sort of representation at this point. It's not like Nick Khan is cold texting a contract to Ricky Starks. Plus all of them know each other. If you want to get a message to someone it's not that hard without "tampering" with a contract.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 27, 2024 18:17:23 GMT -6
Sure. Swerve insinuated a month or so ago that he had text messages showing tampering and contact from WWE on his phone. This was when Tony was on his "WWE is screwing with me" kick.
Now he seems to be backing off those claims.
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Post by randomone on Sept 28, 2024 22:22:49 GMT -6
Miro is just a guy complaining apparently. He can get fucked. Wanna go back to Miro for a sec because I just saw an insane stat. He’s wrestled 35 times in AEW (not including 1 battle royal). Want to know his win/loss record? 34-1. Think about that. And this wasn’t a “oh, he just won a ton of matches on Dark” either, he won 6 of them there. So if he’s ever complaining about booking burying him, he’s crazy. Many rumors of him refusing to lose or do programs with certain talent. He was out with injuries, they brought in his wife, he bitched online, so much. But 34-1. Fuckin A. |
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Post by Ryansback on Sept 29, 2024 6:43:27 GMT -6
Miro is just a guy complaining apparently. He can get fucked. Wanna go back to Miro for a sec because I just saw an insane stat. He’s wrestled 35 times in AEW (not including 1 battle royal). Want to know his win/loss record? 34-1. Think about that. And this wasn’t a “oh, he just won a ton of matches on Dark” either, he won 6 of them there. So if he’s ever complaining about booking burying him, he’s crazy. Many rumors of him refusing to lose or do programs with certain talent. He was out with injuries, they brought in his wife, he bitched online, so much. But 34-1. Fuckin A. Yep. That’s part of the reason I went back but didn’t have the exact record stat. It’s absurd. So it’s a personal backstage thing on why he wants out. |
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Post by Ryansback on Sept 29, 2024 6:45:51 GMT -6
Apparently Tony Khan said this last week that long term booking is dead in wrestling? Can someone confirm this before I add this to my list of why Tony sucks as a wrestling booker? Waiting for randomone to defend this mindset but was ignored instead. I’ve said this many times before, this has been a part of my problem watching AEW as it went along and I became less interested. And unfortunately when they’ve had some, the people involved or story sucked. But to now just flat out say that seems crazy. My guess it was taken out of context, but I’m dying to know the context because my gut tells me he’s still wrong. |
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Post by randomone on Sept 29, 2024 8:54:35 GMT -6
And you asked for someone to confirm him saying it. If you can find the clip, then I’ll criticize it. Find Tony actually saying it, not Bryan saying he heard that Tony said it. I’m not saying Tony didn’t say this, I’ve just never seen/heard him.
For now I’d simply argue that statement because some of the best storylines AEW has had has been long term (what’s the cut off for declaring something long term?). The Swerve & Hangman story, the Hangman build to the initial World Title, Punk/MJF, hell all of Sting’s run.
There’s been some stinkers no doubt, some due to storyline, others due to injuries (Devil).
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