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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Apr 3, 2023 6:39:38 GMT -6
To me, it's the chance to cement in front of the largest possible audience that THIS is now the guy. For the next 5 or 10 years, THIS is the guy you can count on. You can't always recreate that moment later on. In reality, though, you're probably right that it doesn't matter. At least to the core WWE audience. I think they have that guy and his name is Roman Reigns. I hear what you are saying. I’ll push back on that though. Can they trust on Cody? Is Cody really the guy the next 5-10 years? Who’s to say he isn’t going to get bored with this and what to do something else. He and his wife have tremendous entrepreneurial spirits. Cody does not strike me as a lifer. Roman absolutely is. As for the eyeballs, people exposed to the product the first time or first in a long time probably weren’t going to continue following along with wwe after Cody won. What else is there to see? The movie they watched had a clear ending with the good guy winning. For the lapsed fans and potential new fans that may have watched with friends who follow, now the thought or discussion is “well what happens now? Is that it? He cheated to win. Will that get addressed? Do I tune in to the tv programming to see how this is rectified?” If anything you get as many eyeballs to watch to see how many you can possibly get to continue the journey with you. Putting smiles on potential newer fans at the end probably doesn’t sell the next ticket anyway. If they were to do Cosy again at Summerslam, they’ll do the same media blitzes across mainstream shows and fans that barely know anything but saw that match might go “hey i remember that. That guy got fucked over. He’s getting another shot? Oh it’s free on peacock? Maybe I’ll check that out.” They may not go that route but I think when you have the most eyeballs possible when you have weekly running shows, it actually makes more sense to leave them wanting more. Doesn’t work for everybody and I get that. My own fandom was bummed but they have a chance to keep building the story and allow something even bigger to take place.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Apr 3, 2023 6:53:59 GMT -6
I think Roman is actually winding down and looking to not work as much. That's why this was surprising. The rumor has been that he would be taking time off soon.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Apr 3, 2023 7:06:30 GMT -6
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Apr 3, 2023 7:17:35 GMT -6
Wow
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Post by randomone on Apr 3, 2023 9:04:54 GMT -6
Note to self
Don’t have someone chuck a ladder right at your head
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Apr 3, 2023 9:35:14 GMT -6
Haha. Part of me enjoys this person's misery.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Apr 3, 2023 9:54:18 GMT -6
Is there any chance that they do a rematch tonight and have Cody win?
I wouldn't think so, but I can never tell what these guys are thinking.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Apr 3, 2023 10:17:11 GMT -6
WWE is weird. I didn't watch Mania, but I'm reading a lot of the fallout. Having Cody lose was like one of those Vince Russo "They'll never see it coming" finishes. Being unpredictable for the sake of being unpredictable just leaves everyone scratching their heads. Sometimes the most obvious finish is still the correct one.
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Apr 3, 2023 11:00:44 GMT -6
Don’t be surprised if you see top talents like Roman and Brock heavily protected from any loss anytime soon because of the upcoming merger. We’ve seen some recent vulnerability with Brock but that’ll be it for a long time.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Apr 3, 2023 11:13:38 GMT -6
Well maybe...
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Post by randomone on Apr 3, 2023 11:56:38 GMT -6
Give me Brock vs. Gunther at Summerslam (please not at Saudi, I want to actually watch this match) and put Gunther over. You want to make a new main event level star, here's your chance.
Roman shouldn't lose anywhere but Summerslam or Mania, which, at this point, probably only Mania. I don't want The Rock being the one to beat him, since it would make zero sense not only to have Rock win, but to put the title on him at this age of his career.
You had your chance with Cody, you had your chance with Sami. You've literally beaten everyone else multiple times to the point of who could care if they challenge again. Rollins escaped and didn't lose, so he's a possibility. Uso or Solo could be the one with the built in story, but do you really want to pass the torch to the next main event level guy one of them? Or then again, maybe Gunther?
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Apr 3, 2023 12:33:15 GMT -6
I’m not sure why we all are acting like Cody’s story is over. Have we not witnessed anything like this in the last 35 years? Heels win mania main events. Heels win by cheating in mania main events. And sometimes redemption for the loser happens months or a year later. Off the top of my head: It took Bret Hart a year later Yokozuna. It took the Rock a month later Against Triple H.
Cody and Roman had an outstanding match last night. I think there’s plenty of story to go here if they choose to do so. Plus Cody lost by interference so one would have to think he’ll be granted another shot.
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Post by All Drop In on Apr 3, 2023 12:53:29 GMT -6
I’m not sure why we all are acting like Cody’s story is over. Have we not witnessed anything like this in the last 35 years? Heels win mania main events. Heels win by cheating in mania main events. And sometimes redemption for the loser happens months or a year later. Off the top of my head: It took Bret Hart a year later Yokozuna. It took the Rock a month later Against Triple H. Cody and Roman had an outstanding match last night. I think there’s plenty of story to go here if they choose to do so. Plus Cody lost by interference so one would have to think he’ll be granted another shot. I understand your point, but I don't know if we should use Mania 9 as an example for future success. I used to be the "let it play out" guy. Could this work? Could they have a real plan? Sure. Could it be a gut decision that's wrong and they have a sketchy plan at best? Yep. I can get behind this making Roman an even bigger deal. Maybe Cody turns heel to get the title instead of needing that turn to keep it? The best defense I've seen is the happy movie ending example. If Cody wins, you get your happy story payoff. Then what? Yes, I could come up with immediate contenders that make sense. They would be "great" matches with a bunch of 2 1/2 counts. But why do we care? If Cody wins, you tune in to see his speech Monday night (maybe), and go away until SummerSlam (at best). I've viewed MANY people really wondering where they go now. I guess we'll have to tune in to find out.
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Post by Terry's Peeps on Apr 3, 2023 13:30:14 GMT -6
The year is 2028. Wrestlemania 44.
Roman Reigns has surpassed Bruno's record and is in the main event against Negative One.
The world expects this is the final act of the 6 year story arc.
Vince: "Roman's keeping the title. The kid hasn't had his hardships yet pal."
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Apr 3, 2023 14:09:50 GMT -6
I’m not sure why we all are acting like Cody’s story is over. Have we not witnessed anything like this in the last 35 years? Heels win mania main events. Heels win by cheating in mania main events. And sometimes redemption for the loser happens months or a year later. Off the top of my head: It took Bret Hart a year later Yokozuna. It took the Rock a month later Against Triple H. Cody and Roman had an outstanding match last night. I think there’s plenty of story to go here if they choose to do so. Plus Cody lost by interference so one would have to think he’ll be granted another shot. I understand your point, but I don't know if we should use Mania 9 as an example for future success. I used to be the "let it play out" guy. Could this work? Could they have a real plan? Sure. Could it be a gut decision that's wrong and they have a sketchy plan at best? Yep. I can get behind this making Roman an even bigger deal. Maybe Cody turns heel to get the title instead of needing that turn to keep it? The best defense I've seen is the happy movie ending example. If Cody wins, you get your happy story payoff. Then what? Yes, I could come up with immediate contenders that make sense. They would be "great" matches with a bunch of 2 1/2 counts. But why do we care? If Cody wins, you tune in to see his speech Monday night (maybe), and go away until SummerSlam (at best). I've viewed MANY people really wondering where they go now. I guess we'll have to tune in to find out. Fair on 9. My point there was just because Cody lost didn’t mean his story was over. Wasn’t using Bret’s as a positive way but he did get there and over a long story arc got his title. When you think about it, it’s a little Daniel Bryanish in regards to all the hurdles he had to overcome to get it. Hogan stealing the spotlight, then Luger being anointed to replace him, then he had to have a match with Owen to start the night and then finally he was able to overcome Yoko who now also had GOD DAMN in his pocket. Cody has had to overcome so much just to main event mania. He might have to deconstruct that family over time to finally get that belt. And maybe the “deal with the devil” is the only way to get it. I actually love that idea Droppin. “I need that championship more than you’ll ever imagine Rock…” That actually makes a ton of sense with Rhodes. Dude, book this for us.
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Post by Rollins Meadows Ryan on Apr 3, 2023 14:13:03 GMT -6
Droppin Rhodes, thats exactly it. Because there wasn’t a happy movie ending payoff, this lapsed fan is tuning in to find out what happens now. This only works though if you’ve built a good story leading up to that point. The Bloodline stuff is the only thing that’s really piqued my interest that brought me to even think about watching (along with Cody returning and doing something no one has on their bingo card 5 years ago.
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