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Post by randomone on Mar 24, 2022 16:39:06 GMT -6
I’ve been jumping around.
I’ve watched Hogan, Sasha, Flair & now Orton. I’ll watch the rest tomorrow night.
I’ve been enjoying these. The choices for some of the people who they interview is weird though. Dr. Phil, Sam Roberts, Mike Golic, Michelle Beadle, etc. They aren’t on super long or anything, but it’s just odd choices.
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Post by Optimisn on Mar 24, 2022 17:21:00 GMT -6
The Miz episode is incredible. As I'm watching this, there's money in a Miz/Bron Breakker feud. "You had everything handed to you! Your dad is Rick FREAKING Steiner. My dad is George."
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Post by Optimisn on Mar 24, 2022 18:05:03 GMT -6
I'm probably being silly, but these Heels documentaries have the potential to be a big deal. Let's say you kind of mock wrestling but were bored. You liked Cena's show so you give these a shot. How do you not at least get it? I'm not saying watch every week and listen to podcasts. But just say "OK, I kind of understand this now."
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Post by randomone on Mar 24, 2022 19:52:33 GMT -6
Orton one was really good stuff. Early background, early fuck ups in wrestling with his attitude, how he fixed it and how he can play a proper villain.
They do randomly cut to the Fiend bullshit that I could’ve done without since that’s been his weakest storyline ever, but the rest was excellent.
Brothers of Destruction is everything you’ve seen and heard already. Which isn’t surprising since they’ve done about as much on them as you can.
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Post by randomone on Mar 24, 2022 19:53:20 GMT -6
This here, like how has Randy only done one movie? This is top notch stuff.
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Post by randomone on Mar 25, 2022 11:20:22 GMT -6
The Miz episode is incredible. As I'm watching this, there's money in a Miz/Bron Breakker feud. "You had everything handed to you! Your dad is Rick FREAKING Steiner. My dad is George." I'm 1/2 way through it. It's been really good.
But did you notice when they showed the clip of him beating Orton for the title, they edited out all of Michael Cole's commentary? They ramped up the boos and dubbed him with someone else, I think Jimmy Smith. Even some weird squeeky noises whenever Miz would kick Orton's leg. It was really strange.
But hey, editing out Michael Cole commentary is something I'll never be against.
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Post by Optimisn on Mar 25, 2022 11:45:14 GMT -6
I did not notice.
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Post by Optimisn on Mar 25, 2022 16:34:57 GMT -6
What's funny about these EVIL docs is they're pulling back the curtain more than ever but making it seem more real in the process.
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Post by randomone on Mar 25, 2022 17:01:24 GMT -6
The Roman one was excellent. Only tiny part I didn’t like was, (correct me if I’m wrong) did fans boo Roman relentlessly in his Mania match against McIntyre when he came back from leukemia? I don’t remember that being the case at all. They edited it like he was booed out of the building. I certainly don’t remember it that way. Also they dubbed calling Afa & Sika the Samoan Swat Team in WWF when they were the Wild Samoans. I’m nitpicking I know.
Little things like that here and there on these eps with the overly dubbed boos/cheers is just a very minor complaint on an otherwise very enjoyable series.
I highly recommend checking it out for those who haven’t. Solid binge watch.
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Post by randomone on Mar 30, 2022 11:15:01 GMT -6
I for some reason popped on the Raw in 93 when the Quebecers beat the Steiners for the tag titles in Quebec Rules.
That match sucked. First 4 minutes with Steiners running wild was great but then the heat on Scott came and Jacques & Pierre were slow, sloppy, gassed for like 15 straight minutes. It went through 3 commercials and went like 23 minutes. Not to mention Earl Hebner was at his absolute worst as bumbling official.
It got me thinking, the Steiners run in WWF wasn’t that great. Despite working pretty much every team (Shrinkers, Bodies, Money Inc a bunch), their push in the tag division pretty much ended right after Summerslam. Yet they were there until like May/June of 94 weren’t they? I remember Scott losing a KOTR qualifier to IRS I think.
They could’ve done so much more in the year and half they were there
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Mar 30, 2022 11:35:43 GMT -6
I for some reason popped on the Raw in 93 when the Quebecers beat the Steiners for the tag titles in Quebec Rules. That match sucked. First 4 minutes with Steiners running wild was great but then the heat on Scott came and Jacques & Pierre were slow, sloppy, gassed for like 15 straight minutes. It went through 3 commercials and went like 23 minutes. Not to mention Earl Hebner was at his absolute worst as bumbling official. It got me thinking, the Steiners run in WWF wasn’t that great. Despite working pretty much every team (Shrinkers, Bodies, Money Inc a bunch), their push in the tag division pretty much ended right after Summerslam. Yet they were there until like May/June of 94 weren’t they? I remember Scott losing a KOTR qualifier to IRS I think. They could’ve done so much more in the year and half they were there The Steiners jumped to the WWF at the worst possible time. They missed the late-80s/early 90s wave of The Rockers, Hart Foundation, LOD, Demolition, Power & Glory, Nasty Boys, etc. But they were too early for the late-90s era of Bulldog & Owen, Outlaws, DOA, LOD, Boricuas, Furnas & LaFon, Nation of Domination, etc. When I think of the Steiners in the WWF, I think of tag team purgatory. |
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Post by randomone on Mar 30, 2022 12:34:06 GMT -6
It's that weird transition time from when the Natural Disasters broke up, Money Inc broke up, Nastys were fired. Beverlys broke up.
Only team the Steiners didn't wrestle were Men on a Mission and thankfully Bushwhackers. They did all the could, but like you said, it was slim pickens.
Man, fantasy book late 80s/early 90s Steiners in the WWF tag division would be great.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Mar 30, 2022 12:47:21 GMT -6
Mid '93 to late '96 is like the Twilight Zone for WWF tag teams.
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Post by randomone on Mar 30, 2022 13:40:34 GMT -6
I just watched a RAW where the Quebecers were supposed to wrestle Barry Horowitz and Barry Hardy. Horowitz got on the mic (you read that right) and said Hardy had the flu but would like a suitable replacement. He picked the 123 Kid. It was Barry & The Kid vs Quebecers for the Tag Team titles in 93! WTF? I don’t remember this at all.
Also Jacques was “knocked out” and stretchered out, so Pierre just won a handicap match with zero effort.
This post Summerslam 93 era is weird.
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Post by randomone on Mar 30, 2022 13:58:01 GMT -6
The episode when Crush turns on Savage, we had Savage stay quiet on commentary all night until he was prodded by Heenan. Finally Savage unloaded and shoehorned Hogan into it saying Hogan is a backstabber and a liar. Savage is worried Crush has been talking to Hogan, which made Crush have such a change in attitude towards Savage.
This was right after Savage lit up Hogan on Radio WWF.
I don't remember any of this happening on RAW, so while the action is pretty shitty, there's bits and pieces I have no recollection of.
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Post by realfrankdrebin on Apr 2, 2022 13:13:06 GMT -6
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Post by Optimisn on Apr 18, 2022 14:05:31 GMT -6
Always enjoyed these shows.
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Post by realfrankdrebin on Apr 29, 2022 12:05:29 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Apr 29, 2022 13:36:07 GMT -6
Pass.
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Post by Optimisn on Apr 30, 2022 7:23:06 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on May 5, 2022 14:57:01 GMT -6
Watching the 88 Survivor Series. This 10 team tag match that went 40 minutes.
It’s amazing we never got a Bulldogs vs Brain Busters match, but Arn & Tully came in around October of 88 and Davey & Kid were gone after the PPV.
Tully and Davey had a brief interaction in the match and it got me thinking of what could’ve been.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on May 5, 2022 15:15:57 GMT -6
Yeah, that fight with the Rougeaus earlier in the year pretty much sealed the Bulldogs' fate.
The Rockers also came in right in the summer of '88 and they kinda replaced the Bulldogs as the white-meat babyface team. The Rockers and the Busters had some of the best tag matches in wrestling in '88 and '89.
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Post by randomone on May 5, 2022 17:13:40 GMT -6
That whole tag match is so weird. It’s the most stacked talent of tag teams (Bulldogs, Arn/Tully, Harts, Rockers, Rougeaus, Stallions, Demolition, Powers of Pain, Bolsheviks & Conquistadors)
But the match is focused on the double turn with Fuji, Demolition & POP. The crowd seemed really confused by it all. I mean it’s cool they tried it, but fans confused whether to clap or boo Warlord & Barb when they’re hoisting Fuji on their shoulders was odd.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on May 5, 2022 18:27:55 GMT -6
Yeah, a lot of the fans read it as a Fuji face turn.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on May 19, 2022 14:35:56 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on May 19, 2022 14:44:49 GMT -6
Nick Khan has a Cody checklist but with McMahons on it until he gets to the top of the mountain.
Linda (check)
Shane (check)
Paul & his NXT (check)
Steph (check)
Vince ( )
One quick Tonya Harding attack on the old man and he’s the king of the castle!
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Post by Optimisn on May 19, 2022 14:55:19 GMT -6
The body language in this picture is amazing.  |
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Post by randomone on May 19, 2022 17:18:28 GMT -6
That didn’t take long. One to go, eh Nicky?
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Post by November KS on May 19, 2022 18:08:58 GMT -6
Is that Eli Manning in that pic?
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on May 19, 2022 19:25:23 GMT -6
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