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Post by November KS on Aug 29, 2014 23:01:58 GMT -6
I'm surprised he hasn't had more health problems between his lack of sleep, stress and drug/steroid abuse.
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Post by Danny Busch on Aug 29, 2014 23:03:21 GMT -6
He probably sleeps in a hyperbaric chamber and has a dialysis machine for breakfast.
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Post by Optimisn on Aug 29, 2014 23:07:33 GMT -6
I'm surprised he hasn't had more health problems between his lack of sleep, stress and drug/steroid abuse. I'm not making a joke right now. I think he regularly goes to borderline illegal rejuvenation joints. He probably legitimately quit roids around the trial and switched to HGH. But I get your point. When they brought him to the back after the double quad deal, he didn't want to go to the hospital.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Aug 31, 2014 18:56:17 GMT -6
WWE Has Forgotten What Great Television Looks Like Mike Killam August 31, 2014 If a show stays on the air long enough, over time it’s inevitable that there will be rough patches, and times when the product is just plain bad. Take The Simpsons for instance. It’s been on the air since 1989 – over 550 episodes over the course of 25 seasons. There was a time when The Simpsons was must-watch television. Their rise and fall actually mirrors pro wrestling. There was the “Golden Age” right at the start of the ’90s, with viewership in the teens for several years. Then came the 5-6 years of stagnation, followed by a rebirth and their best ratings ever – the “Attitude Era” of Evergreen Terrace, if you will. It has since been on a gradual decline, and is currently sitting in the worst position its ever been.
I’m talking about The Simpsons because, in case you weren’t aware, the FXX channel has been playing every episode of the show from start to finish, for the last week.
There are fans that stuck with the show – the 5.6 million viewers that tuned in for season 25 – that either don’t know any better, or are still around for the nostalgia. Remind you of anything? What happens with any show that remains on air past its prime, is that the aforementioned hangers-on will defend the product, because over a long enough timeline, what’s “bad” becomes “good”, and what’s “good” becomes “great.” Human nature is to lower your expectations when presented with the same thing over and over again. Like a husband or wife that says they’ll clean the house every day while you’re at work, but rarely ever does. There are moments when that person can surprise you, but mostly you’ve grown comfortable in your mediocre, less than ideal situation, and have found a reasonable amount of contentment with your life. Newton’s First Law.
Monday Night RAW is just OK. Sometimes it’s GOOD, but it hasn’t been GREAT in a long time. Smark crowds can bring fun to a show once or twice a year, but they don’t leave any lasting enjoyment on the product. The fans with Stockholm Syndrome defend RAW, legitimately believing it’s GREAT, but with 6 hours of TV every week, how can it be?
I guess anything looks good in comparison to the vapidity of Honey Boo Boo and the Real Housewives. It’s always interesting to me to listen to people complain about the evaporation of the middle class, and the wealthy getting wealthier, and then see some of the same people watching TV shows about rich people being rich.
Game of Thrones is GREAT television. For three or four seasons, Dexter was GREAT television. It wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but LOST made its fanbase tune in every single week to experience – and that’s a key word here, “experience” – what would happen next. I don’t watch it, but the amount of people who do and rave about their fandom tell me that Walking Dead is probably GREAT television. I personally think The Newsroom is a brilliantly written show. I’m just now getting into it, but from the one episode I’ve seen, True Detective is INCREDIBLE television.
Monday Night RAW is OK television. It’s spinning its wheels trying to be a family sitcom, a reality series and a STARZ drama. It’s what happens when The Big Bang Theory meets Survivor meets Spartacus; all shows well past their prime, by the way. RAW is missing an identity. An identity that they clearly had during the Attitude Era. They don’t have a single target audience, so they can’t have a vision for meeting their needs, so they can’t produce a show with any semblance of decent writing. It’s just not possible. They’re trying to take all the soon-to-be expired ingredients in the fridge, throw them in a bowl, and call it salad.
I’m not just needlessly bullying WWE. There is a message behind my rambling. Almost every television show overstays its welcome. You can hardly blame them – when you’re making steady money, it’s hard to imagine stepping away and trying something completely different. House is a great example of a show that could have ended two years before it did, and went out as one of the best series ever written. I’m sad that there will never be another episode of Breaking Bad, but it’s one of the only TV series that took its leave before it ruined its legacy. Boardwalk Empire is another I hear is getting ready to do the same thing.
Monday Night RAW, I believe, is the one exception to the rule. That’s because it isn’t a normal TV series – it’s professional wrestling. It will have its ups and downs, but it could still be around in 50 years with enough care and dedication from great writers, creative minds, and intelligent members of senior management. But that doesn’t mean it gets to skip all the other laws that every good TV show must follow. It must have a key demographic. It must have a clear, attainable goal and vision. It must have an identity that allows its fans to have a real, ongoing “EXPERIENCE” – there’s that key word again – that will keep them coming back.
Right now WWE is trying to promote a brand, and not a television show. The “WWE” brand is a higher priority than Monday Night RAW. That is, in a very concise nutshell, why the show isn’t great anymore. Ratings in the Attitude Era were high because of a number of reasons, but if you actually strip away everything, at its core the WWF vision was to bring people to Monday Night RAW at all costs. It wasn’t to sell PPV – that’s putting the cart before the horse; if RAW is good enough, people will buy the PPV.
WCW Nitro kept them on that course. They had to be a great TV show, or they would lose the war. Competition breeds success. Now they have no competition just because there are no legitimate wrestling companies on TV that approach their ratings. But when you try and act like pop culture, and not wrestling, your competition is EVERYONE. Now they spend all their time promoting a brand that’s about to be dropkicked off the stock exchange.
The WWE’s vision now is to promote a brand by slapping their logo on everything possible, and getting people to pay for it. The problem with that is the product behind the brand just isn’t great anymore. They seem to have forgotten that Monday Night RAW is the driving force behind their entire business model. Now the equation is backwards. They’re banking on a PPV not to suck, in hopes the RAW ratings are decent the next night.
I really hope people don’t mistake this for a rant condemning any of the performers in the WWE currently. The roster is actually at a point where it has more potential than I’ve seen in a decade, if you include a dozen names in NXT, and the recent batch of new acquisitions. There’s a talent pool in WWE that could put on the best show you’ve ever seen in your life, if given the opportunity to succeed. But until Monday Night RAW returns to the focus of their business model, I really have no interest in the company’s future, no matter who they sign to a contract.
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 1, 2014 11:23:36 GMT -6
Hahahahahahaha.
Former TNA star and current IWGP Heavyweight Champion AJ Styles recently spoke with Slam Wrestling and mentioned WWE’s stock issues and budget cuts when saying it might not be a good time to go to WWE right now. He said:
“It sure doesn’t seem like the right time to be going to WWE. I think the best place for me right now is New Japan. I’m happy with everything that’s going on there right now.”
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 1, 2014 15:52:40 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 2, 2014 12:17:37 GMT -6
Brodus Clay Shoots on Hornswoggle: “He’s a Bully…He’s Just a Little Evil Guy”
September 2, 2014
YouShoot will be releasing a shoot interview with former WWE star Brodus Clay, during which Clay, now known as Monster BC, shoots on a number of topics.
You can watch the official trailer below, and the following is what Clay had to say about Hornswoggle:
“He’s a bully, he is a bully. He is a verbal assassin. He picks, he judges… he’s just a little evil guy.”
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Post by November KS on Sept 2, 2014 16:52:10 GMT -6
Richard Gray @wnwdotcom 1m #WWE is bringing Jerry Springer to #Raw next Monday to "moderate discussion" between Nikki & Brie Bella.
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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2014 17:28:31 GMT -6
Ugh, who do you think is the writer who pitched this?
Can't believe Hippie & Stephs feud was so over it was ending episodes of RAW with the crowd going crazy. Now this dumb feud gets even worse. Bravo WWE, you turned a red hot feud into wrestlecrap in the span of 2 weeks.
How happy do you think Bryan is that he's on the DL now & doesn't have to be apart of this shit?
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 2, 2014 17:35:17 GMT -6
I'm guessing Michael Sam turned them down?
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Post by Danny Busch on Sept 2, 2014 18:10:03 GMT -6
Michael Sam got him a jobby job with jery jones.
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Post by November KS on Sept 5, 2014 23:04:17 GMT -6
Smackdown is staying on Friday nights apparently.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 6, 2014 17:00:07 GMT -6
Top WWE Name Reportedly In Line for a Title Shot After Brock Lesnar
Nick Paglino September 6, 2014
According to F4WOnline.com, Big Show is in line for a title shot after John Cena’s Night of Champions rematch against Brock Lesnar.
Fuckin Vince...
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Post by Danny Busch on Sept 6, 2014 17:04:39 GMT -6
Cena wins and then faces the big show later?? Is vince just taking his ball sac and dangling it on every fans face with this?
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 6, 2014 17:06:56 GMT -6
It sure seems like it.
There is no way anyone can seriously think Big Show would be compelling.
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Post by randomone on Sept 6, 2014 20:50:26 GMT -6
Why do I fear this will be at the expense of Bray Wyatt? Show just mows over the Wyatt Family, making himself look like a "contender"
I realize Vince thinks wrestling (sorry, sports entertainment) fans attention spans are incredibly short (and to an extent they are), but how can people forget Brock beating the piss out of Show at the Rumble.....this year already!!! I mean c'mon, for fuck sake, I hope his time to get a shot is coming, but seriously, why not Cesaro? People wouldn't expect him to best Brock, but it'd be a new fresh name for Brock to face, work the Heyman angle & boom, PPV match. Fans would get behind him. A hell of a lot more than they'd get behind Show.
Show is fine in the spot he's at, hoss team with Henry. No more, no less.
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Post by Danny Busch on Sept 7, 2014 22:10:59 GMT -6
I am listening to LAW because i am awake and have no tv.
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Post by November KS on Sept 8, 2014 12:54:12 GMT -6
And the WWE just happens to be in Baltimore tonight.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 8, 2014 12:58:44 GMT -6
And the WWE just happens to be in Baltimore tonight. I can't wait for Raymian Ricedow!
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Post by November KS on Sept 8, 2014 14:38:41 GMT -6
Looks like the few remaining CM Punk items are going ultra cheap if you're in the market for that kind of thing: shop.wwe.com/CM-Punk/cmpunk,default,sc.html
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Post by November KS on Sept 8, 2014 14:41:09 GMT -6
That link didn't work too well but you get the idea. WWEShop, Search, CM Punk
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 8, 2014 15:18:05 GMT -6
Vince Russo Debuts New Feature Titled “Russo’s Road Stories”: What Officially Kicked Off the Attitude Era?, Vince Reveals Off-the-Wall Celebrity Tidbits & More September 8, 2014
Vince Russo will be writing a new series every week, exclusively on WrestleZone.com, entitled “Russo’s Road Stories”. With 23 years in the wrestling business, Russo has seen and heard a lot of things that have never been told before…until now. Visit Vince Russo’s new website at this link, and follow him on Twitter at @pyroballyhoo. Also, be sure to use the hashtag #RussoRoadStories when tweeting about this new exclusive column.
RUSSO’S ROAD STORIES: WHEN CELEBRITIES ENTER THE “SQUARED CIRCLE”
Throughout the years, the use of “Hollywood Superstars” has helped add to the glitz and glamour of the pageantry known as sports-entertainment/professional wrestling. As a matter of fact, dating all the way back to the first WrestleMania on March 31, 1985, it was that touch of Tinsel Town that made the extravaganza stand out as a wrestling event to the likes that we had never seen before.
Today, things aren’t much different. Pro wrestling still relies on “outside” entertainment to try and garner any mainstream press they can get. (See: WWE’s original invitation to Michael Sam, or Jerry Springer’s actual appearance on RAW tonight.)
Over the years I’ve had both the honor and privilege of working with many celebrities who came in and out of my world as I served as a writer for the better part of 20 years. This column is dedicated to some of my fondest memories as they occurred when celebrities entered the squared circle!
Jennie Garth
My first memory in dealing with celebrities who crossed over into our world for whatever reasons – whether it be the publicity, payday, or their love of the sport — occurred many years ago at WrestleMania X when we were “graced” with the presence of Jennie Garth.
Garth was one of the hottest young starts on television at the time due to her show 90210, which was the current talk of Hollywood. I can clearly remember how Jennie was so disgusted by being in the presence of wrestlers that she refused to leave her locker room for the entire evening, until it was time for Burt Reynolds to walk her down to the ring. Even Burt, an avid wrestling fan, was upset by the stuck-up starlet’s actions and made it be known to everyone.
Little Richard
Another clear memory I had of WrestleMania X was witnessing first-hand Vince McMahon getting down in the ring with Little Richard as he prepared for his moment in the spotlight. Vince was the ultimate mark for the legends of music, and made no bones about it when they dared to enter our world.
Pamela Anderson
The following year at WrestleMania XI, as editor of the WWF Magazine, I actually had the opportunity to be in a room ALONE with the stunning Pamela Anderson, who was more or less still under the radar at that time. I can clearly remember interviewing Pam and not even being able to look her in the eyes because her RAW beauty (at the time) was just intoxicating AND mesmerizing!
Pete Rose
I worked with baseball legend Pete Rose at WrestleMania XIV and XV, and the one aspect that was so entertaining when working with “Charlie Hustle” was the fact that whatever you wanted him to do had a price but was negotiable. It was the equivalent of working with a used-car salesman, and I know that we’ve all experienced that joy in our lives.
A few off-the-wall celebrity tidbits:
Aaron Neville was the biggest Bret Hart mark I had ever seen and would have done anything for the “Hit Man”.
At the Survivor Series in 1994, EVERY SINGLE ONE of the boys wanted to get laid out by Chuck Norris.
Sean Waltman called it the highlight of his career when he had the opportunity to sing with his idols and rock star legends, Motley Crew, on an episode of Monday Night RAW. I remember Sean coming up to me after the show, and he couldn’t be thankful enough.
We barely got the late and great Hank “The Angry” Dwarf of “Howard Stern Show” fame from the green room to the arena, because he had somehow managed to get himself BOMBED out of his mind during the day.
Jeff Jarrett’s antics brought much entertainment backstage. Then-internet icon Cindy Margolis was almost in tears because she was scared to death of Double J putting her in a Figure-Four. We had to practice endlessly in the back.
Ben Stiller, who had just released “Mystery Men”, dropped by to take yet another Figure-Four from Jeff. When it was time to rehearse during the day, I couldn’t find Ben, only to learn later that he was somewhere behind a trailer smoking the wacky-tabacky with Road Dog and X-Pac.
This one may be one of my all time favorites: Jeff Jarrett was so afraid that Howard Stern’s “Beetlejuice” wasn’t going to sell his guitar shot right, that let’s just say – Ol’ Double J made SURE he did. Don’t know if I ever saw anyone hit so hard in my life!
Last But Not Least…Mike Tyson
Perhaps the greatest use of a celebrity in wrestling of ALL-TIME was Mike Tyson at WrestleMania XIV. If you remember, there was a window of opportunity for Vince to use “Iron Mike” because he was suspended from boxing, and “The Boss” jumped all over it.
As far as I was concerned, that whole storyline between Tyson and Austin OFFICIALLY kickstarted what we all now refer to as “The Attitude Era”.
Here’s what you probably don’t know though: At the time, Vince had assigned his son Shane to stay with Tyson 24/7. There was no doubt in my mind that Vince was looking to do bigger and better things with the ear-biting champion. In fact, I truly believe Vince McMahon wanted to manage Tyson’s career!
#RussoRoadStories Every Thursday
I’ll be following up this article on Thursday this week, which will be the normal day for my new weekly series, “Russo’s Road Stories”, right here on WrestleZone.com. Because of this double-column week, I’m going to continue with the “celebrity” theme for my second column, and share with you perhaps the most controversial way a celebrity was used in the business. Plus, a SHOCKING celebrity story that I guarantee you have never heard before!
Thanks again to WrestleZone for allowing me the opportunity, and thanks to those of you who decide to read my work each week.
Want to see me write a backstage/road story about YOUR favorite superstar? WWE/F, WCW, TNA – if I worked with them and you’d like like some stories, let me know on Twitter by using the hashtag #RussoRoadStories.
Until Thursday, thanks for reading.
Peace,
Vince Russo
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 9, 2014 9:41:52 GMT -6
Adam Rose’s Bunny There is talk within WWE right now to continue to use the bunny for Adam Rose to help him win. Then, they would reveal the bunny to be Darren Young.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 9, 2014 10:39:59 GMT -6
WWE Potentially Reacting to CM Punk 22 Page Royalty Letter, Punk Merchandise Removed from WWE.com
September 9, 2014
As we reported last week, CM Punk’s attorneys sent WWE a 22 page letter regarding non-payment of royalties Punk feels he’s owed, as the company continues to use his name and likeness, particularly where WWE 2k15 is concerned.
Interestingly, or perhaps coincidentally, WWE has pulled almost all the CM Punk merchandise from Punk’s WWEShop.com Alumni page. Only four items remain for Punk, with the most expensive being a set of CM Punk wrist sleeves for $2.99. A few of the other remaining Punk pieces are redirecting to an “item not found” page.
As we originally noted, the discrepancy stems from WWE feeling CM Punk was in breach of contract when he quit the company this year, and therefore feel they do not owe him anymore money. It should also be noted that Punk’s 22 page letter sent to WWE is not a lawsuit, it’s simply an attorney sent letter regarding what Punk feels are owed monies.
It takes a special kind of guy to ask for royalties after essentially violating your contract.
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Post by November KS on Sept 9, 2014 19:37:13 GMT -6
Pour one out for Sean O' Haire.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 9, 2014 19:40:32 GMT -6
I thought Jindrak and O'Haire were gonna be the next great tag team.
How wrong I was.
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 9, 2014 19:51:12 GMT -6
I almost got my ass kicked by Sean O'Haire. RIP.
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 9, 2014 20:11:23 GMT -6
I hope he hadn't actually turned his life around, only to have the past catch up with him. The guy I met a couple times was not what I would call a study in Buddism. Sean Christopher Haire, 43, of Spartanburg, SC, died Monday, September 8, 2014, at his home. Born February 25, 1971, in Atlanta, GA, he was the son of John Ernest Haire of the home and the late Sheila Scoggins Zeek. Sean was a former WWE (World Wrestling Entertainment) wrestler for many years as "Sean O'Haire". He was a very gentle and kind person that studied Buddism and was employed as a personal trainer at Exzel Fitness in Spartanburg. In addition to his father, he is survived by a sister, Erin Alverson Haire of Spartanburg, SC; brothers, Andrew Renny Lands of Spartanburg, SC, Shane Cecil Joseph Haire of Rock Hill, SC, Shan Ezra Haire of Statesville, GA; and Theodore the cat. A Celebration of Life visitation will be held 1:00-3:00 PM Saturday, September 13, 2014, at his home at 510 Hampton Drive, Spartanburg, SC 29306. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to The YMCA, 151 Ribault Street, Spartanburg, SC 29302 or online at www.spartanburgymca.org/give.php. Floyd's North Church Street Chapel
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Post by November KS on Sept 9, 2014 20:14:58 GMT -6
Only 1 person from the 1980 USA Men's Hockey Team has died. And it happened today. Just something to think about.
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 9, 2014 20:28:58 GMT -6
Imagine this guy being pissed because you and your friends are stealing the attention of every woman in the bar at 3:45 AM. I didn't want to be a mark, but I thought building his ego might save our lives. Drop In: Holy shit, Sean O'Haire? Sean O'Haire: *Grunt* Drop In: I'm sorry, I thought you were someone else. Sean O'Haire: No, that's me. Drop In: Dude, I'm a big fucking fan. He shook my hand. More realistically, he covered my hand. If you want to see what the definition of a pro wrestler looks like, it was that guy. I've never been so legitimately intimidated by someone in my life. He ended up with one of the girls we were with, as she knew him from the local scene. It seemed like it was going fine, until he yelled "go back over there with those guys you fucking c**t!" I'm again certain my friends and I are going to die. Luckily the bouncer was his friend, and he suggested he leave. But I did still have a decent talk with him. I see him one year later on the next Hilton Head trip. Hammered, I say "Sean, I still don't get how Vince could fuck up your run so much!" Sean O'Haire: WHAT? Drop In: I, ah, I'm ah, hey it's Scotty Riggs! (That was in high cartoon voice)
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