Optimisn
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Post by Optimisn on Jul 28, 2015 17:42:30 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 17:51:05 GMT -6
I think that gentleman may wish he had kept his Hulkster gear.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 17:59:35 GMT -6
Who could've guessed that the symbol of racist America wasn't the Southern gang but the Northern embodiment of Americana?
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 18:11:04 GMT -6
I appreciate your opinion. Much better conversation than usually happens with your dad.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 18:13:18 GMT -6
Oh it's true.
It's damn true.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 18:14:01 GMT -6
Stunned there was no mention of why Hogan is gone on Tough Enough.
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 20:07:41 GMT -6
When you have no other instances of racism from Hulk, despite being in the very public eye for like 40 years now, I refuse to bury him for something he said in a 15 second snippet. You mean the content that was said when he thought no one was listening isn't as good of a barometer of someone's true feelings as content that is said knowing everyone is listening? Hmm... Yes, somewhat. Especially in this case.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 20:21:11 GMT -6
I wholeheartedly disagree.
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Optimisn
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Post by Optimisn on Jul 28, 2015 20:28:29 GMT -6
The latest episode of Total Divas was oddly entertaining.
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Post by Danny Busch on Jul 28, 2015 20:36:15 GMT -6
If the world got to hear the worst things everyone has ever said in private very few people would come out looking like saints.
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 20:42:48 GMT -6
I wholeheartedly disagree. One example I can think of, and I felt from the post you made this morning almost confirmed what I was sort of suspecting, not excusing but suspecting, is that Bubba and his fat whore wife were probably known to Hogan to be blatant racists, and it's possible (YES IT IS SPEEPS, JERK) that Hogan was just trying to fit into his environment. Because if I'm honest, and I always am (Even if y'all think my thoughts are crazy or whatever) but I've seen it hundreds of times in my lifetime. I've seen people get put in an environment of say racism, or hatred or whatever, and even though you've never seen or heard that person utter something racist or derogatory in your entire lifetime, all of a sudden there they are maybe saying a couple of things that almost floored you to hear them say. Because in that post of yours, Bubba seemed to be almost egging Hogan on.
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 20:43:09 GMT -6
If the world got to hear the worst things everyone has ever said in private very few people would come out looking like saints. ^This guy gets it^
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 20:44:48 GMT -6
I got more but I have some minor housekeeping to tend to. Come at me, Speeps.
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 21:00:55 GMT -6
The other thing is that there absolutely has to be some degrees to racism. Is Hogan as bad as some dude going to KKK meetings? Is he on the Riley Cooper level? Is he maybe on the Elmhurst Fuckstick level?
I mean, if the only time ANYBODY can recall that Hulk Hogan has made a racist remark or action is the one time 8 years ago while be secretly recorded and blackmailed by his best friend, then I'm willing to weigh that differently.
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Post by Danny Busch on Jul 28, 2015 21:09:25 GMT -6
I would say hogan is not hating anyone, hurting anyone or physically or financially attacking anyone........he is just using the absolute lowest hanging fruit to stereotype an individual he does not care for.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 21:18:54 GMT -6
I wholeheartedly disagree. One example I can think of, and I felt from the post you made this morning almost confirmed what I was sort of suspecting, not excusing but suspecting, is that Bubba and his fat whore wife were probably known to Hogan to be blatant racists, and it's possible (YES IT IS SPEEPS, JERK) that Hogan was just trying to fit into his environment. Because if I'm honest, and I always am (Even if y'all think my thoughts are crazy or whatever) but I've seen it hundreds of times in my lifetime. I've seen people get put in an environment of say racism, or hatred or whatever, and even though you've never seen or heard that person utter something racist or derogatory in your entire lifetime, all of a sudden there they are maybe saying a couple of things that almost floored you to hear them say. Because in that post of yours, Bubba seemed to be almost egging Hogan on. "Come on...be racist with me Hulk."
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 21:19:41 GMT -6
I would say hogan is not hating anyone, hurting anyone or physically or financially attacking anyone........he is just using the absolute lowest hanging fruit to stereotype an individual he does not care for. kesha, do you want me to call a firetruck for you because I think you're on fire?
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 21:20:49 GMT -6
One example I can think of, and I felt from the post you made this morning almost confirmed what I was sort of suspecting, not excusing but suspecting, is that Bubba and his fat whore wife were probably known to Hogan to be blatant racists, and it's possible (YES IT IS SPEEPS, JERK) that Hogan was just trying to fit into his environment. Because if I'm honest, and I always am (Even if y'all think my thoughts are crazy or whatever) but I've seen it hundreds of times in my lifetime. I've seen people get put in an environment of say racism, or hatred or whatever, and even though you've never seen or heard that person utter something racist or derogatory in your entire lifetime, all of a sudden there they are maybe saying a couple of things that almost floored you to hear them say. Because in that post of yours, Bubba seemed to be almost egging Hogan on. "Come on...be racist with me Hulk." Have you seriously never seen that in your lifetime? I've literally seen it HUNDREDS of times.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 21:21:20 GMT -6
I would say hogan is not hating anyone, hurting anyone or physically or financially attacking anyone........he is just using the absolute lowest hanging fruit to stereotype an individual he does not care for. I would say that when you say something like that in anger it shows what you really think. Why would it have to be n-word? If you were that mad at your daughter's fuck buddy, why make it about race? Calling him a cocksucker, an asshole, or a kirkwood is just as easy.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 21:23:32 GMT -6
The other thing is that there absolutely has to be some degrees to racism. Is Hogan as bad as some dude going to KKK meetings? Is he on the Riley Cooper level? Is he maybe on the Elmhurst Fuckstick level? I mean, if the only time ANYBODY can recall that Hulk Hogan has made a racist remark or action is the one time 8 years ago while be secretly recorded and blackmailed by his best friend, then I'm willing to weigh that differently. Sure. I don't think he's killing dudes. I could definitely see him on a horse. But he's definitely a racist. And to make excuses for it is silly.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 21:24:51 GMT -6
If the world got to hear the worst things everyone has ever said in private very few people would come out looking like saints. If you have to use race to vent about someone in anger, you are a racist.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 21:26:07 GMT -6
"Come on...be racist with me Hulk." Have you seriously never seen that in your lifetime? I've literally seen it HUNDREDS of times. I really haven't.
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 21:27:11 GMT -6
I would say hogan is not hating anyone, hurting anyone or physically or financially attacking anyone........he is just using the absolute lowest hanging fruit to stereotype an individual he does not care for. That's another thing. He's either just fitting in with his racist buddy or whatever, but it's exactly like kesha said. It doesn't hurt, offend or damage anybody if it wasn't being illegally taped and extorted. He also had a ton of nervous energy I would imagine because he was on the verge of doing Bubba's whore wife (who apparently isn't fat after Googling her image ) And he was pissed at Brooke for getting with dude. I'm fairly confident that if it was some white hickabilly that Hulk was upset with, he would've said the very same thing. (Hick, hillbilly, hilljack, etc....)
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 21:29:34 GMT -6
“I mean, I don’t have double standards. I mean, I am a racist, to a point, f*cking n***ers.
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 21:31:37 GMT -6
I would say hogan is not hating anyone, hurting anyone or physically or financially attacking anyone........he is just using the absolute lowest hanging fruit to stereotype an individual he does not care for. I would say that when you say something like that in anger it shows what you really think. Why would it have to be n-word? If you were that mad at your daughter's fuck buddy, why make it about race? Calling him a cocksucker, an asshole, or a kirkwood is just as easy. I agree in today's world but I believe it to be kinda generational. A lot of us were raised during the usage of those kinda words. It's just what many people said in anger or defiance. Which is yet a whole 'nother thing. How was he raised? What was the environment? Are you born that way or is it a learned thing? And how easy is it to get rid of those thoughts/feelings if you were indeed "molded" early on to feel certain ways?
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 21:35:20 GMT -6
But that's racist whether you were brought up that way or not.
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 21:41:21 GMT -6
Have you seriously never seen that in your lifetime? I've literally seen it HUNDREDS of times. I really haven't. And even that is another aspect. I'm not sure if you've lived where you are now for your entire life or not but you're in a very diverse area. I believe a lot of people have a "learned" behavior throughout their upbringing but often times just can't relate to other races, cultures, etc.....until they are around those that are unfamiliar to them. As far as Wisconsin goes, the father you go north, the more you hear things that you wouldn't really hear in a Milwaukee or a Chicago as much. Is it that person's fault if generations upon generations have instilled those type of thoughts and norms(to them)? Perhaps racism, at least in the milder cases, should be more treated as a disease and with a level of sympathy, than banishment.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 21:44:34 GMT -6
Not sure I buy racism as an illness.
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Post by November KS on Jul 28, 2015 21:45:38 GMT -6
Not sure I buy racism as an illness. Not sure if I do either but I've been giving it some thought through all of this.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jul 28, 2015 21:46:39 GMT -6
People who grow up with racism in the house or area are capable of not being racists.
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