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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 1, 2016 18:02:08 GMT -6
Seeing reports that Blackjack Mulligan might need some thoughts and prayers. Also seeing that Bray & Bo aren't expected to be on Raw now.
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Post by scorejr on Feb 2, 2016 9:49:59 GMT -6
OK here's my problem with Triple H main eventing Mania. He fights Undertaker 2 years in a row, next beats Brock Lesnar at mania, next year loses to Bryan, after that beats Sting, and is now main eventing. For as much as he's not an active roster member, and all the things he does with NXT and behind the scenes, he sure can't stay away from that ring.
We have a roster loaded with young talent, and Triple H still convinces Vince to let him be the guy who makes the stars. Well Trips beating Brock Lesnar at WM 29 made no sense. Beating Sting made no sense. Remember Booker? Don't get me going.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 2, 2016 11:20:16 GMT -6
OK here's my problem with Triple H main eventing Mania. He fights Undertaker 2 years in a row, next beats Brock Lesnar at mania, next year loses to Bryan, after that beats Sting, and is now main eventing. For as much as he's not an active roster member, and all the things he does with NXT and behind the scenes, he sure can't stay away from that ring. We have a roster loaded with young talent, and Triple H still convinces Vince to let him be the guy who makes the stars. Well Trips beating Brock Lesnar at WM 29 made no sense. Beating Sting made no sense. Remember Booker? Don't get me going. First, my only issue is his role on creative. If he's purposely keeping guys from getting too hot, so he always has to save the day, that's a major problem. I don't THINK that's the case. Second, he can't stay away from the ring. What used to be called an "attraction" is now a part-timer stealing paychecks from the regulars. When Andre the Giant came in to pop a town, the only guy bitching was Michael Hayes. I really like Dean Ambrose. I think positioned properly, he can be a huge star. But he's not selling 110,000 seats in Dallas. Third, I don't think Hunter was going to be in the main event against Rollins. It was scheduled to be a grudge match. Finally, the wins and losses. The only one I have an issue with since he left the active roster is Lesnar. Doesn't make sense to beat him. There's a case of marginalizing a guy through creative. However, I don't think they wanted Brock getting too big because of his contract. Whether that makes sense, I'm not sure. But he can't lose every Mania match. If he does, he becomes Jericho. I know it has been unpopular, but Jericho isn't as big as he used to be because of the returns. Hunter has taken the pin quite a bit. Ultimately, I'd like to see four young guys white hot like Austin, Rock, Taker, etc. But it's not horrible or unprecedented.
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Post by scorejr on Feb 2, 2016 11:36:43 GMT -6
Triple H doesn't do anything for me. Whatever his character is in his head isn't what I see. He wants to be the best, the badass, the boss. Anyone jacked up with long hair could be Triple H. I do respect his mic work though, its very fluent and he doesn't have to try hard.
Maybe if he didn't bury Jericho back in the day, beat Booker at mania, put his fat nose right in the middle of the Summer of Punk, never truley was a main eventer until he had the booking power and fucked the bosses daughter.
Kevin Owens is the man. Dean Ambrose is a star. Seth Rollins is your future. You now have AJ freaking Styles. Cesaro, Big E, Titus, Rusev. So much talent, so wasted.
Reigns vs Owens Reigns vs Ambrose Reigns vs Brock Reigns vs Rock Reigns vs AJ Styles Reigns vs a returning Daniel Bryan Reigns vs Bray Wyatt
So what if it makes sense he's fighting Triple, It doesn't make it good, its just actually logical for once. There's a lot better choices, and we all know Reigns is winning. We all knew Bryan would win, but he was OUR guy so that changes things.
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Post by Vincent Kennedy McMahon on Feb 2, 2016 14:32:31 GMT -6
REWRITING WRESTLEMANIA WITH MY BULLMASTIFFS, DONALD AND FLEX. PAUL IS CALLING EVERY FIFTEEN MINUTES TO SEE IF HE IS STILL CLOSING THE SHOW. WHAT PART OF WIFE SWAP DON'T YOU GET, PAL? I WILL PUT THE CHAMPIONSHIP ON ROCK AT SMACKDOWN AND MAKE REIGNS THAT WAY. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE STEPHANIE AND YOUR LITTLE ORLANDO DEAL? FLEX IS SUGGESTING PAUL STAY IN THE TITLE MATCH WHILE DOMINATING HIS CARPET DRAGGING TESTICLES. I RARELY QUESTION FLEX ON BOOKING DECISIONS, BUT THIS COULD BE A SHOWDOWN.
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Feb 2, 2016 17:09:51 GMT -6
Triple H doesn't do anything for me. Whatever his character is in his head isn't what I see. He wants to be the best, the badass, the boss. Anyone jacked up with long hair could be Triple H. I do respect his mic work though, its very fluent and he doesn't have to try hard. Maybe if he didn't bury Jericho back in the day, beat Booker at mania, put his fat nose right in the middle of the Summer of Punk, never truley was a main eventer until he had the booking power and fucked the bosses daughter. Kevin Owens is the man. Dean Ambrose is a star. Seth Rollins is your future. You now have AJ freaking Styles. Cesaro, Big E, Titus, Rusev. So much talent, so wasted. Reigns vs Owens Reigns vs Ambrose Reigns vs Brock Reigns vs Rock Reigns vs AJ Styles Reigns vs a returning Daniel BryanReigns vs Bray Wyatt So what if it makes sense he's fighting Triple, It doesn't make it good, its just actually logical for once. There's a lot better choices, and we all know Reigns is winning. We all knew Bryan would win, but he was OUR guy so that changes things. Just had a crazy storyline twist thought. Bryan comes back and lays out Trips so he cannot compete at Mania and takes his spot. Goes full ballistic heel tired of being held back and fucked over by McMahons. Steals the belt and won't give it back until he main events Mania. Boom. Print Money.
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Post by randomone on Feb 2, 2016 18:26:43 GMT -6
Hell any of those options I'd be more interested in than Trips. I had even pitched Samoa Joe winning the Rumble, Trips guy, in Orlando, where NXT's home base is. You could build two months plus off a Samoan backstory between the two, who cares if it's not real. This is Trips boy, have him be right by his side in the main event of Mania. Guess they want an established name & not a "rookie" in the main event spot. I do however think that's something they could do.
Like the Bryan idea, but I honestly think they believe he's made of glass & don't want another concussion to fall on their hands. Which is why I sadly think we've seen the last of him.
With the exception of Rock/Cena, which was literally made a year in advance, this Reigns ending Mania with the title held high is the most predictable outcome in a very long time. I get it makes sense logically, but this is Wrestlemania, people want to be surprised & not pre-programmed for once.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 2, 2016 19:15:12 GMT -6
Great. So we get The White Gonzalez v Taker. That should keep the fifty-year-old healthy. Maybe Harvey Whippleman can become The Wyatts manager?
- In an update on WWE’s plans for WrestleMania 32, there were some rumors of Brock Lesnar vs. Braun Strowman but that match won’t be happening. Vince McMahon reportedly pushed hard for the match to happen, but Lesnar is currently scheduled to face Bray Wyatt in a singles match.
As of Monday, plans have Strowman facing The Undertaker in a singles match at WrestleMania 32.
The Undertaker was originally scheduled to face John Cena in a singles match at WrestleMania but Cena’s injury changed those plans. Taker is scheduled to return to WWE TV soon and start doing angles to build to the match with Braun.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 2, 2016 19:46:36 GMT -6
I'm not buying the Strowman stuff. I firmly believe Cena will be back to face Taker.
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Post by randomone on Feb 2, 2016 20:11:58 GMT -6
Imagine if Wyatt & Harper would've beaten Taker & Kane at Survivor Series, with Harper pinning Kane. You'd have Brock with Wyatt and have Harper get on the mic & say I beat one brother, now I'm finishing the job & taking you out once & for all Undertaker. Then you'd have Harper vs Taker.
It'd be so much better than whatever they have planned with Strowman. Luke Harper, again getting overlooked.
Was the 25th anniversary of the Undertaker's debut that important for him to have a win at Survivor Series? Absolutely not. They could've had something to work with. Granted Cena was going to be the guy, but they'd still have something to go off of.
Wyatt's were at TV the next night & we haven't seen Taker since. That win meant nothing for them & everything for the Wyatt's.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 2, 2016 21:33:04 GMT -6
Ryback's new gear.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 2, 2016 21:43:11 GMT -6
Still don't like him.
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Post by Steely Don on Feb 2, 2016 21:44:30 GMT -6
The best part of that picture is the EXIT sign, which one can only hope he utilizes to the fullest.
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Post by Steely Don on Feb 2, 2016 21:47:26 GMT -6
It looks pretty bad but it's not as bad as Chyna's. Funny you should mention that .... WWE Diva Tammy Sytch Challenges Chyna to a Sex Match!2/2/2016 8:22 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF EXCLUSIVE
Tammy Sytch is licking her chops at the release of her celeb porn video that hit the Internet Monday and challenged former wrestler turned porn star Chyna to a match.
Now that she's prime time in the porn world, Tammy's taking the opportunity to challenge her friend Chyna, telling us ... "without a doubt she can kick my ass in the wrestling ring, but I really don't think she stands a chance against me where it matters most. In the bedroom."
Tammy's feeling confident, now that her Vivid Entertainment video "Sunny Side Up" is live on the web, but remember ... Chyna is no stranger to the porn ring.
Tammy even gave her the option of either a one-on-one sex match or they could bring in a man and see who taps out first.
Let the games begin!
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Post by randomone on Feb 2, 2016 21:48:21 GMT -6
That's really going to make the crowd NOT want to chant for Goldberg during his matches.
I'd prefer a Ryback/Gillberg feud more to be honest.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 2, 2016 22:15:24 GMT -6
I wouldn't doubt if this could have something to do with Goldberg. The WM card is looking awfully weak right now and he's certainly a draw to an extent.
That said, if Ryback's involved then I'm in agreement of rather seeing Gillberg.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 2, 2016 22:56:59 GMT -6
Just spouting here and maybe some of this has been said as I can't keep up with anything these days but:
* scorejr and I were talking and he said that Lesnar vs Ambrose at Wrestlemania would be awesome. I agree. * As much as I love Jericho the above match should take precedence over any sort of Ambrose/Jericho talk. * If you're not doing Ambrose/Lesnar then it should be Ambrose/Styles with AJ having turned beforehand and doing some sort of stuff with Anderson/Gallows. * If you do that then you can have Lesnar/Owens. But if you do Lesnar/Ambrose then you can do Owens/AJ. * Hell I don't even know which I prefer.
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Post by scorejr on Feb 3, 2016 9:18:59 GMT -6
I feel like Owens losing to Ziggler clean was the E's way of saying hey guys, Owens isn't doing shit at Mania.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 6, 2016 22:32:22 GMT -6
Not sure if there's been any updated word on the Balor injury but regardless of the severity I will continue to pine for my 9 months on/3 months off proposal.
The injuries just keep piling up, as do the deaths.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 6, 2016 22:49:24 GMT -6
Not sure if there's been any updated word on the Balor injury but regardless of the severity I will continue to pine for my 9 months on/3 months off proposal. The injuries just keep piling up, as do the deaths. An ankle injury is a horrible example for your plan. Which I agree with for the most part. Guys that do things like Balor would be more likely to have freak injuries from time off. They need to be doing it on a regular basis.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 6, 2016 22:52:39 GMT -6
Not sure if there's been any updated word on the Balor injury but regardless of the severity I will continue to pine for my 9 months on/3 months off proposal. The injuries just keep piling up, as do the deaths. An ankle injury is a horrible example for your plan. Which I agree with for the most part. Guys that do things like Balor would be more likely to have freak injuries from time off. They need to be doing it on a regular basis. It's just something that was on my mind and triggered that thinking again. Axl Rotten's death also was a trigger. But yeah the ankle correlation is poor.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 6, 2016 22:56:14 GMT -6
But as far as guys being MORE prone to injuries from time off, now that I can't agree with it all. A fresh mind and body is never a bad thing. Now I know Triple H spouted that bullshit on that podcast he did but I'm not buying it.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 6, 2016 23:03:05 GMT -6
You're exactly right. There's no reason an independent contractor cannot receive three months off per year from a publicly traded sports entertainment company. It's the biggest joke, as creative suffers because of their 2016 standing in society. It wouldn't have to be a set three months off. They wouldn't have to do an injury angle to sell it either. However, this is similar to football. 98 percent of these guys and gals would rather be dead. They don't want to sit at home. Especially with the advanced training staff that goes with them on the road. But some of that is a variation of Stockholm Syndrome, and all of this is ultimately possible.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 6, 2016 23:03:33 GMT -6
But let's say that it is true with certain wrestlers. Maybe in a few cases you tweak the system a bit for those particular guys/gals and you stagger a month off here and there. But still with the general goal of having 3 months off a year.
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Post by Danny Busch on Feb 6, 2016 23:08:52 GMT -6
What they need to do is still work a few days a week but lose the house shows. You should have 2 performances per week, 3 days in the gym and 2 recovery days. You don't have to make shitty 3 on 3 matches on tv just to get guys matches. They have a deep enough roster to spread it out so they don't have people only doing tv or only doing house shows.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 6, 2016 23:10:32 GMT -6
But as far as guys being MORE prone to injuries from time off, now that I can't agree with it all. A fresh mind and body is never a bad thing. Now I know Triple H spouted that bullshit on that podcast he did but I'm not buying it. I don't remember Hunter saying it, but I absolutely believe it. A fresh mind and body is absolutely a great thing. However, these guys are doing moves on a daily basis that blow away any generation. Yes, the touring generations were working 350 days per year. But they were executing mostly simple techniques. Don't get me wrong, it was grueling as hell. But the athleticism also requires regularity. Daily moves today were once-per-year spots in 1975. If you take three months off, one of those moves could blow an ACL just because. I'm simply saying "time off" in an industry this programmed isn't that easy. But it could be done.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 6, 2016 23:14:45 GMT -6
What they need to do is still work a few days a week but lose the house shows. You should have 2 performances per week, 3 days in the gym and 2 recovery days. You don't have to make shitty 3 on 3 matches on tv just to get guys matches. They have a deep enough roster to spread it out so they don't have people only doing tv or only doing house shows. This would also keep guys/girls from being overexposed. The problem is they would have to pay them less, or make less profit. I could find a way to make more money with your scenario. But I'm not Vince.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 6, 2016 23:15:33 GMT -6
But as far as guys being MORE prone to injuries from time off, now that I can't agree with it all. A fresh mind and body is never a bad thing. Now I know Triple H spouted that bullshit on that podcast he did but I'm not buying it. I don't remember Hunter saying it, but I absolutely believe it. A fresh mind and body is absolutely a great thing. However, these guys are doing moves on a daily basis that blow away any generation. Yes, the touring generations were working 350 days per year. But they were executing mostly simple techniques. Don't get me wrong, it was grueling as hell. But the athleticism also requires regularity. Daily moves today were once-per-year spots in 1975. If you take three months off, one of those moves could blow an ACL just because. I'm simply saying "time off" in an industry this programmed isn't that easy. But it could be done. I think HHH said it on the live Network special with Stone Cold. Like I say, the overall goal is a fairly strict policy of 3 months off a year. Whether it's in one big chunk, whether it's staggered, however they do it, it needs to add up to 90 days. Give or take a few. But you have to force it upon them because like you say otherwise they won't go home. Whether they're worried about they're standing or what not.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 6, 2016 23:18:59 GMT -6
And I actually think that creative could flourish in this scenario. Vince & Co never stick to or probably even attempt long term booking anymore anyways. Not to mention that even when you love a wrestler you might start getting a little tired of them after 9 months.
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Post by Back To December KS on Feb 6, 2016 23:27:28 GMT -6
I just feel like the possibilities are endless creatively.
* Obvious injury angle * Variations on injury angle. They could even work us. Like when Rollins got hurt landing. I mean I know he's really hurt but going forward they could do things like that. Have some fan footage like was the case with Rollins. Have a guy to appear to land wrong. get that out there and bam! yet another way off * Beat down injury angle - any variation there. Brock Lesnar kills a guy. Wyatt family kills a fool. You have some long standing feud end with a brutal I quit match and you have a built in prolonged absence excuse. * Suspensions - whether it be from a wrestler maybe attacking Cole or Byron, attacking a "fan", attacking a guest host etc... * No mention - hell, no need to mention all of them. Many wrestlers wouldn't even be missed/noticed for the first month or two of not being there * Fake contract disputes - self explanatory
And on and on.
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