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Post by November KS on Jan 30, 2017 16:26:28 GMT -6
So scorejr and I came up with like 17 matches for Mania. In no particular order, we're pretty sure this is how it's going down:
Reigns vs Taker Owens vs Jericho Cena vs Samoa Joe AJ vs Shane Bray vs Orton Rollins vs Triple H Big Show vs Shaq Lesnar vs Goldberg Gallows/Anderson vs Enzo/Cass (or maybe a 3 or 4 way with New Day and whoever) American Alpha vs ?? probably another 3 or 4 way. Charlotte vs Bayley (Maybe throw in Nia & Sasha) Alexa vs probably 3 or 4 others Andre Memorial Thingy Strowman vs Corbin Neville vs 10 other Cruisers Dean Ambrose vs The Miz vs Ziggler vs whoever Cesaro vs Sheamus but more than likely they'll be up in that multiple team Raw tag title match. Haven't figured out what Rusev & Sami Zayn are doing quite yet. Hell, probably fighting each other.
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Post by November KS on Jan 30, 2017 16:37:29 GMT -6
About the only things unsettled in my mind would be:
- Whether Jericho/Owens fight for the Universal or US title. I'm hoping it's for the Universal. Maybe Owens costs Jericho the US belt to somebody and the feud grows from there. I'd also like to see Jericho win the Universal at Mania which would be an incredible moment. The next night on Raw they could have their rematch, Owens wins, kills Jericho post match and "ends Jericho's career". Then Jericho can go off on his Fozzy tour while Owens gets all his heat back.
- Not convinced they'll do Corbin/Strowman but I could sure see it. Otherwise maybe they continue with the Sami/Strowman feud and maybe Corbin would move into the Intercontinental match and make it a Fatal Fourway. (With Ambrose, Ziggler and The Miz)
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Post by randomone on Jan 31, 2017 8:14:11 GMT -6
Meltzer said on the Observer last night that since Joe/Cena isn't happening, in regard to who Cena will face, when he was told who it's slated to be, they told Dave "it won't make you jump for joy".
I'm legit dreading Corbin vs Cena if that's it. That's the only person it could be. No way they do Ziggler/Cena. There's no one left.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jan 31, 2017 9:49:37 GMT -6
Cena-Miz?
Cena-Ambrose?
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Post by cij79 on Jan 31, 2017 12:23:48 GMT -6
Shitting on Cena for no reason while seemingly giving Taker a higher spot doesnt make too much sense to me right now. Taker looks old and can barely move. Cena can still tell a story and he brings in more kids.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 7:33:13 GMT -6
If Cena gets Corbin I don't think that's shitting on him. Clearly the thought tank likes what they have in Corbin and are calling on Cena to get him over. That's what the greats do.
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Post by randomone on Feb 1, 2017 9:25:14 GMT -6
But Cena doesn't have the greatest track record at Mania putting young guys over (Wyatt & Rusev). Unless they plan on pushing Corbin to the moon (which honestly, they need new heels on SD, so I'm fine with), then Corbin gains nothing from just wrestling Cena & losing at Mania. He becomes a stat not a star. I know Mania isn't about making stars anymore, but in this case, they should make an exception.
They also need to come up with a hell of a lot better match than what we saw on SD a few weeks ago. It was pretty bad.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 1, 2017 9:40:41 GMT -6
I agree they need to put over Corbin at Mania.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 1, 2017 13:07:02 GMT -6
If Rollins is out at Mania, Hunter is without an opponent.
Maybe go with the long rumored Shane vs. Hunter match.
That frees AJ up to do something much more interesting.
Maybe Joe?
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Post by November KS on Feb 1, 2017 13:10:52 GMT -6
If Rollins is cleared and ok to take on Triple, then who is fighting Joe?
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 1, 2017 13:11:48 GMT -6
Big Cass.
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Post by November KS on Feb 1, 2017 13:13:07 GMT -6
Before this injury news, I was telling scorejr that it almost had to be Sami or a returning Balor.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 1, 2017 13:21:36 GMT -6
I don't know if I want him going to Balor again so quick.
Keller was on with Austin yesterday and seems to think Owens-Jericho isn't a sure thing for Mania. I think he's crazy but if they went that route and kept JeriKO together a little longer, I could see Owens-Balor and Jericho defending the US Title against someone like Sami or Cass.
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Post by November KS on Feb 1, 2017 13:28:35 GMT -6
I personally feel that Jericho/Owens should close the show and it should be for the big belt. I think they both deserve to be in that spot after the year they've had.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 1, 2017 13:37:36 GMT -6
Well no matter if they have a match and it's for the Universal Championship, they aren't closing the show.
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Post by November KS on Feb 1, 2017 13:41:20 GMT -6
Well no matter if they have a match and it's for the Universal Championship, they aren't closing the show. And that's a huge mistake in my estimation.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 1, 2017 14:02:19 GMT -6
I would agree but we know Mania isn't a wrestling show anymore.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 1, 2017 17:39:54 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 18:29:22 GMT -6
Fantasy booking that I know won't happen. Triple H vs Kurt Angle. Blur the lines of reality and make it that H kept vetoing Angle out of WWE and HOF. They have so much early history. It'd be a great match.
Won't happen. I know.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 1, 2017 19:24:00 GMT -6
Fantasy booking that I know won't happen. Triple H vs Kurt Angle. Blur the lines of reality and make it that H kept vetoing Angle out of WWE and HOF. They have so much early history. It'd be a great match. Won't happen. I know.
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Post by randomone on Feb 1, 2017 19:59:28 GMT -6
Fantasy booking that I know won't happen. Triple H vs Kurt Angle. Blur the lines of reality and make it that H kept vetoing Angle out of WWE and HOF. They have so much early history. It'd be a great match. Won't happen. I know. All for it! I know it won't happen, but again, one can dream! Have Stephanie get knocked down in a scuffle & taken to the back. While she's in her office, unattended, have Kurt shockingly return & lays a kiss on her just like in 2000. Kurt smirks, leaves the room & looks at the camera & says "some things never change, oh it's true, it's true".
Trips is furious & we're off to the races.
I realize that's ridiculous, but hell, I'd pop.
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Post by Danny Busch on Feb 1, 2017 20:18:58 GMT -6
That would have been amazing. Have ambush Reigns as he makes his way to the rumble as the 30th entrant. HHH sprints to the ring while he eliminates someone. When HHH gets there he goes apeshit and demands everyone remaining throw him out....after a good staredown he exits under his own power and heads off into the stands while HHH is being calmed down and held back. Then you have 2 PHENOMENAL months of mania build up. HHH probably has a stroke though on live tv confronting him at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 20:49:01 GMT -6
Fantasy booking that I know won't happen. Triple H vs Kurt Angle. Blur the lines of reality and make it that H kept vetoing Angle out of WWE and HOF. They have so much early history. It'd be a great match. Won't happen. I know. All for it! I know it won't happen, but again, one can dream! Have Stephanie get knocked down in a scuffle & taken to the back. While she's in her office, unattended, have Kurt shockingly return & lays a kiss on her just like in 2000. Kurt smirks, leaves the room & looks at the camera & says "some things never change, oh it's true, it's true".
Trips is furious & we're off to the races.
I realize that's ridiculous, but hell, I'd pop.
I miss WWE Kurt Angle so much. Throwing on the Raw after Summerslam 2000. I know it's during the Angle-HHH feud but that's all I know. Best wrestling show I'll watch this week.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 1, 2017 20:49:32 GMT -6
That would have been amazing. Have ambush Reigns as he makes his way to the rumble as the 30th entrant. HHH sprints to the ring while he eliminates someone. When HHH gets there he goes apeshit and demands everyone remaining throw him out....after a good staredown he exits under his own power and heads off into the stands while HHH is being calmed down and held back. Then you have 2 PHENOMENAL months of mania build up. HHH probably has a stroke though on live tv confronting him at some point. Um...
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Post by randomone on Feb 1, 2017 23:00:17 GMT -6
Just listened to Wrestling Observer Live (not Meltzer's show) & Bryan Alvarez said one of the rumors for potential Mania matches is Miz & Maryse......vs Cena & Nikki. Now I trust Meltzer FAR more than I do Alvarez, so anything Bryan says I tend not to believe at all. But it's the first time I've heard this & felt like posting it.
Cena would be wasted in that spot. Take nothing away from Miz, who I think is fantastic, but if he has a mix tag, it should be with Dean & Renee. Cena is tied for most World title reigns in history & you waste him in a mix tag? I'd rather see Corbin/Cena with Cena going over before I see a mix tag with Cena & Nikki.
It sucks but this Rollins injury has got the fantasy ideas flowing for seemingly everyone online. Very unfortunate (and hopefully Rollins makes it to Mania) but it's interesting to hear some ideas thrown out there.
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Post by randomone on Feb 2, 2017 15:26:48 GMT -6
Meltzer said on WOR that in fact Miz & Maryse vs Cena & Nikki is the proposed plans. Alvarez said there's no way this doesn't end with Cena not proposing post match. You've been having Nattie on TV constantly say how John will never marry Nikki, this is the perfect time to do it. Dave said he thinks Nikki's career is ending soon because she's going into business, plus she's never had a mix tag with John (and you can build this for the dumb Total Bellas show as well). And John/Miz can promote it well.
It sucks, but it's looking more likely. Still think it's wasting Cena.
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Post by November KS on Feb 2, 2017 15:57:57 GMT -6
Speechless
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Post by Danny Busch on Feb 2, 2017 17:10:13 GMT -6
i think I would rather watch Vince take a 10 minute shit in the middle of the ring over that.
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Post by November KS on Feb 2, 2017 17:17:47 GMT -6
Speaking of which, I wonder if fans are just gonna shit on everything that comes after Reigns beating Taker.
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Post by Danny Busch on Feb 2, 2017 17:51:40 GMT -6
They absolutely will. He will take 10 tombstones and choke slams like they are a slap on the ass and then will deliver a horrible "spear" and win. If they really want him to go heel then you have him lose to Taker and then have him deliver a post match beat down. Make the fans boo what they are supposed to boo.
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