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Post by Positivity Peeps on Aug 31, 2023 7:16:56 GMT -6
Kind of describes how I feel about much of AEW to be honest.
Sunday's show will have some good matches I'm sure. But the vibe around the company sucks. And it's all the fault of management and the EVPs! (Kidding. They're only mostly to blame.)
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Aug 31, 2023 7:27:26 GMT -6
Honestly the only interesting match to me right now is Hobbs/Miro. The rest is just a Dynamite card.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Aug 31, 2023 7:32:21 GMT -6
What's the main event of the show?
Miro and Hobbs? Miro has barely been on TV in a year.
The ROH Tag title match? You can't have (REDACTED) in the main event.
Is it the 8 man match? Maybe. Maybe you turn the Bucks heel and join Bullet Club again. But without Punk, you dint have the tease of that finally money showdown with the Bucks.
They just continually fuck themselves over. It's frustrating.
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Aug 31, 2023 7:34:48 GMT -6
I haven't read spoilers for Rampage but so help me its the Hardy Boyz that win.... Then I will give Peeps the match to burn it all down.
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Aug 31, 2023 7:37:47 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Aug 31, 2023 7:37:47 GMT -6
Haha we're safe. But it's an underwhelming decision to be honest. At least to be paired with MJF and Cole.
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Post by randomone on Aug 31, 2023 11:32:34 GMT -6
Fuck it, it’s not like it’s a massive spoiler. Silver & Reynolds won and will face Cole & MJF. It’s a nothing match on the PPV and while it sucks it’s not a team like The Kingdom (which would make sense storyline wise), leads me to believe that match is coming potentially later. This is simply to get Cole & MJF a title defense.
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Aug 31, 2023 11:35:56 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on Aug 31, 2023 11:35:56 GMT -6
Supposedly Punk & Starks was going to main event, but since someone had another pissy fit and won’t be on the show, I’d go with Cassidy & Moxley as your main.
While Omega & Takeshita will be great, I don’t know if that’s main event of a PPV ready just yet.
With Cassidy & Mox, it’s been built up, you have Cassidy having his 33rd title defense (think of that, this reign has been really something) and they can have a great main event with Moxley winning the title. Not only uncrowning Orange, but puts the International Title at a higher level too. You could make Orange a main event level guy and put him in the Eliminator tournament stemming from this too
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Post by November KS on Aug 31, 2023 12:08:42 GMT -6
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Aug 31, 2023 12:21:31 GMT -6
Fuck you Tony. You absolutely can comment on it. How much of an "investigation" is necessary? This is what I mean by him not holding himself accountable. Is he suspended - yes or no? If not why is he not on your PPV in his hometown where he is the biggest draw for your company? Please elaborate.
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Aug 31, 2023 12:44:08 GMT -6
Post by Optimisn on Aug 31, 2023 12:44:08 GMT -6
He has to be receiving extremely conservative legal advice that causes these silly situations.
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Aug 31, 2023 13:21:00 GMT -6
He has to be receiving extremely conservative legal advice that causes these silly situations. He needs to fire his lawyers too then. You don't need a lawyer to say if someone is suspended or not. You don't need a lawyer to tell your talent to stop being morons. You don't need a lawyer to squelch rumors that are being put out there by your EVPs and their circle jerks. He can be accountable on all of those things without legal advice.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Aug 31, 2023 13:32:16 GMT -6
Tony sucks.
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Aug 31, 2023 14:59:15 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on Aug 31, 2023 14:59:15 GMT -6
I think maybe because there was a precedent after the first backstage fight (which feels silly to even type a year removed from the first, but here we are), so since that took time to “investigate” he can’t just say yup they’re suspended. I mean he could, but it took a while the first time. Might as well give the impression there’s an investigation, even though by all accounts it happened backstage in front of a lot of people and not in a locker room with guys throwing chairs, punches and biting people
Pro Wrestling!!
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Sept 1, 2023 8:04:44 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on Sept 1, 2023 9:28:57 GMT -6
I think Eric sucks like 99% of the time anymore and I've said my reasons why
But in this instance, he's right.
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 1, 2023 11:58:54 GMT -6
I think Eric sucks like 99% of the time anymore and I've said my reasons why But in this instance, he's right. He's right more than he's wrong. Most of the criticism is constructive. But he knows how to get people upset and get people that make people upset to make a headline about it.
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Post by Ryansback on Sept 1, 2023 13:52:32 GMT -6
Easy E is right.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 2, 2023 8:02:17 GMT -6
I have to be honest: Had I known that this would be the card, we wouldn't have bought tickets. I know that sounds negative, but this is not a card that I would have paid for in hindsight.
They threw all the big guns at the All In card in England. I hope they haven't killed their best U.S. market in the process.
- Luchasaurus (c) vs. Darby Allin (AEW TNT Title)
- Miro vs. Powerhouse Hobbs
- Kris Statlander (c) vs. Ruby Soho (AEW TBS Title)
- Orange Cassidy (c) vs. Jon Moxley (AEW International Title)
- Kenny Omega vs. Konosuke Takeshita
- Bullet Club Gold vs. FTR & The Young Bucks
- MJF & Adam Cole (c) vs. Alex Reynolds & John Silver (ROH Tag Team Titles)
- Samoa Joe (c) vs. Shane Taylor (ROH Television Title)
- Eddie Kingston & Katsuyori Shibata vs. Claudio Castignoli & Wheeler Yuta
I'm sure we'll still enjoy the show but I'd be lying if I said I was terribly excited.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 2, 2023 8:33:28 GMT -6
The good news is they usually deliver. Maybe you get some surprises to make up for the seemingly lackluster matches.
But yeah on its surface, the card is barely a glorified Dynamite.
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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2023 10:57:19 GMT -6
It’s a week weekend for wrestling shows for sure. There’s a WWE PPV tonight and it’s a slightly beefed up RAW. So WWE fans can’t complain about how their show is better and vice versa in this case.
As for tomorrows show, there’s no way you won’t have a good time. You’ve been to AEW before and they’ve delivered. It might not deliver on the scale it has in the past, but I expect some big things to happen.
The next show for them is Wrestle Dream, so maybe they’ll have some surprises for that? I’m not saying they will (so don’t hate me if they don’t), but they could.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 2, 2023 11:09:15 GMT -6
There's a WWE PPV today? Had no idea.
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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2023 11:29:05 GMT -6
Exactly.
Rollins/Nakamura in a match that should’ve happened 5 years ago Miz/Knight Rey/Theory Becky/Trish in a Cage (ok) KOSami vs somebody I think Cody is on the Grayson Waller Show
So yeah, AEW has a Mania level card in comparison, lol
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 2, 2023 14:56:10 GMT -6
Welp, Tony Khan just killed the Chicago market. Punk has been fired. I have to figure out how to escape a riot tomorrow. This show will be infamous...and it will suck.
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Post by Optimisn on Sept 2, 2023 15:07:49 GMT -6
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Sept 2, 2023 15:16:28 GMT -6
I fully expect the crowd to shit on everything from start to finish, and it's all Tony's fault.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 2, 2023 15:18:40 GMT -6
I really do hope the crowd goes crazy. They won't, I don't think, but it'd be great.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 2, 2023 15:26:37 GMT -6
Meltzer and Alvarez and The Bucks and randomone finally got their wish.
I hope they're happy.
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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2023 15:27:56 GMT -6
Bye Phil, don’t hold a grudge against the door when it hits your ass on the way out.
Tony should’ve handled everything better sure, he should’ve nipped it in the bud with the Hangman comment. Then you have Punk shit not just on your company and employees at the All Out presser last year, but also made your owner look like a punk (no pun intended) in the process. Something Tony should’ve interrupted and spoke up, he didn’t and he was wrong for that.
Ever since that outburst from Punk last year, he’s rubbed me the wrong way. How are you a company man if you’re acting like that? Is your ego that fragile? Also there’s no need for “real life shots” taken by guys either, so the Perry, Page comments are unwarranted as well.
It just seems like Punk wasn’t into this. Not necessarily from the jump, but for a while. Tony letting him also go backstage at WWe is fucking wild to me. If Punk was a company man, he would’ve handled situations better as a veteran of the business and the young guys should’ve shut the fuck up also.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Punk goes back to WWE, as there’s not much left for him. It will make him look like a bitch though after everything they put him and his wife through the last 10 years. But hey, money is money I guess.
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Post by November KS on Sept 2, 2023 15:34:36 GMT -6
I'm Team Tony.
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Post by randomone on Sept 2, 2023 15:34:37 GMT -6
Just copy and paste the transcript of this actually
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