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Post by PositivelyJackref on Oct 8, 2014 20:41:01 GMT -6
If Lesnar is out until the Rumbel, that's bad. You had all this momentum after Summerslam. Not anymore. And you can't have your champion gone for 4 months. Have Lesnar show up at a UFC event and toss the belt in the trash. That'll put buts in the seats. Be the biggest rub of that trash can's career!
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Oct 8, 2014 20:43:46 GMT -6
Nonsense.
Biggest rub came from Duke "The Dumpster" Drose.
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Post by November KS on Oct 8, 2014 20:47:34 GMT -6
This is the kind of shit that's really wrong with the E:
– The top sellers for WWE merchandise at last month’s live events were, in order, John Cena, Roman Reigns, The Usos, The Wyatt Family, Brock Lesnar, Sting, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan, Dean Ambrose and Hulk Hogan. Cena is beating everyone else by a long shot. There’s a feeling that live event merchandise sales better reflects who should be pushed because the purchases are made by more casual fans and more merchandise is sold at arenas than on the internet.
They book based on merchandise sales, based on who's movie is coming out, etc..etc...
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Oct 8, 2014 20:51:57 GMT -6
Any media coverage is good for the product bro.
But the Internet Wrestling Community doesn't care about that bro.
That's a total shoot.
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Post by randomone on Oct 8, 2014 22:58:38 GMT -6
I should note at my house show I went to a few weeks ago, they didn't have any Ambrose, Hogan. Sting, Lesnar, Wyatts, Bo Dallas or Ziggler merch available. And like I said before, they only had Cesaro shirts in 1 size. They had 3 different Cena shirts, Rollins, Orton, Sheamus, Bryan, Usos & Reigns shirts & a WWE tour shirt. So for them to base pushes off that is complete bullshit. I get pushing guys who sell merch, but make others merch available too. Don't punish a guy by not pushing him if you aren't selling his shirts at house shows. They did have a $50 El Torito mask available though. Shocker I didn't see any child rocking that.
As for Brock, that's ridiculous if he isn't coming back before Mania. Why the fuck put the title on him? Why the fuck have him defend the title strictly against Cena? Why not have him do a 1 off match with Sheamus? Why not have Heyman come out & plug Lesnar defending the title on RAW & have them use a tumbler to see who he defends against, giving everyone a "chance" & have the challenger be Zack Ryder or something. That way Heyman can say Brock has defended his title.
Defending a title in September & then January is so dumb. I get the 30 day defense rule is long gone, but I think the title should be defended more than once every 4 months.
Also Rusev vs Cena at Mania is just another match Cena wins & if the feud continues, Rusev gets a win the next month that not as many people watch.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Oct 9, 2014 4:30:42 GMT -6
According to The Wrestling Observer, Randy Orton apparently has a new deal with WWE which allows him to work a limited live events schedule, and he no longer works full-time on the road.
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Oct 9, 2014 6:16:00 GMT -6
According to The Wrestling Observer, Randy Orton apparently has a new deal with WWE which allows him to work a limited live events schedule, and he no longer works full-time on the road. AKA Wellness Policy deal.
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Post by November KS on Oct 9, 2014 12:21:15 GMT -6
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Post by cij79 on Oct 9, 2014 19:18:50 GMT -6
This will sound stupid but after watching Total Divas I truly think Daniel Bryan is a bitch. His doctors and his stupid cant act worth a shit wife want him to have surgery and he wants acupuncture to fix his back. You're in the middle of a huge run and you're being a little bitch about what you are going to do to help speed up your recovery. Millions would kill for your spot and like John Cena said on the show "you want to rub leaves on your arm?
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Post by randomone on Oct 9, 2014 19:24:14 GMT -6
Chris Jericho revealed on Twitter that he is already set to make another return to WWE in November. Jericho is believed to be working the upcoming European tour that month.
Source: @iamjericho, PWInsider.com
Fingers crossed he comes back a bitter heel. Happy go lucky Jericho in these previous returns I haven't really dug. Who would he feud with? I do assume he'll be a face though.
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Post by November KS on Oct 9, 2014 19:31:23 GMT -6
Chris Jericho revealed on Twitter that he is already set to make another return to WWE in November. Jericho is believed to be working the upcoming European tour that month. Source: @iamjericho, PWInsider.com Fingers crossed he comes back a bitter heel. Happy go lucky Jericho in these previous returns I haven't really dug. Who would he feud with? I do assume he'll be a face though. The only time available is from Oct 13th to Nov 19th, then the Fozzy tour starts up in earnest again.
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Post by cij79 on Oct 9, 2014 19:59:28 GMT -6
Go the fuck away Jericho. His last interesting run was vs HBK. He's much more entertaining on the podcast than he is actually wrestling.
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Post by November KS on Oct 10, 2014 0:04:05 GMT -6
Jericho is real and glorious:
On whether WWE dropped the ball with Fandango and Bray Wyatt: “WWE doesn’t drop balls; your career goes in waves, it goes in cycles. I know that more than anybody else. Sometimes you work on top, sometimes you’re not and when you’re not, it’s up to you to make your mark and get back on track again. I think that WWE has a plan and never tries to sabotage anybody on purpose. Why would they do that? It costs them money. Someone like Bray Wyatt has a huge potential, huge upside. He’s got a long way to go, so there are no worries and no rush. Fandango – I thought was kind of a one trick pony as far as his character and gimmick go. There is only so much you can do with it. I think it’s time to update that character and take it to another place because you can only do so much with a character like that.”
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Oct 10, 2014 4:55:06 GMT -6
Kiss ass.
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Post by cij79 on Oct 10, 2014 8:18:24 GMT -6
When was the last time someone benefited from a run with Jericho?
Punk Fandango Wyatt
Punk was a superstar beforehand and that whole run with Jericho seemed botched from the start.
He's not interesting anymore as a wrestler.
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Oct 10, 2014 8:23:14 GMT -6
I agree. Now if Ralphus came back with him that would be a different story.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Oct 10, 2014 9:31:53 GMT -6
When was the last time someone benefited from a run with Jericho? Punk Fandango Wyatt Punk was a superstar beforehand and that whole run with Jericho seemed botched from the start. He's not interesting anymore as a wrestler. This guy gets it.
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Post by Optimisn on Oct 10, 2014 9:49:24 GMT -6
What's is frustrating is you have a guy like Jericho that made a plan five years ago to give back, and push younger guys. In a business where almost every returning veteran wants the pin, Jericho has pretty much said give me a program. Just keep me strong every once and a while. He does it, and everyone is right. There's either zero plan for the guy he's putting over, or it just wasn't a very good program. I think Jericho still has it in him, so I don't know how much of the blame goes on him or the company.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Oct 10, 2014 10:10:11 GMT -6
LaBar: Going one-on-one with Dean Ambrose By Justin LaBar Thursday, Oct. 9, 2014, 3:03 p.m. Updated 14 hours ago Dean Ambrose is the most entertaining and consistent part of WWE programming each week. He's unique and stands out. Nobody can talk or react in a situation like him. If you're at a WWE event, the level of interest and surprise is even greater because, as we've seen on WWE programming, he could end up standing next to you. Fans in Pittsburgh will have that opportunity Dec. 28 at Consol Energy Center. Ambrose spoke with me in an interview about several topics. Many, as you can read or hear, weren't prompted by a question. Ambrose spoke candidly, and his answers would start with one topic and move to another, providing interesting insight. The link at the bottom of the page will let you hear the audio, and Ambrose would say several times, “I don't know how I got on this topic” or “Was that part of your original question?” It was a unique exchange with a unique performer. Q: A lot of comparisons are made with Brian Pillman, Roddy Piper and even Stone Cold Steve Austin. Do you agree with those, and do you like being compared to them? A: You're always going to get comparisons. Everybody comes out and says he's the next so and so or he reminds me of so and so. The thing with me is I've studied so much wrestling, so many wrestlers, so many eras and styles for so long. My entire life has been dedicated to being obsessed with this. I have so many influences and stuff in my brain, who knows what's going to pop in and come out. I don't really try to pattern myself after any particular person. I pretty much make it up as I go along. There's a lot of guys in WWE, you would know who they are, you know you're going to see the same thing every single match. You know you're going to hear the same thing every time they pick up a microphone. You know John Cena is never going to get mad at you no matter what you do. You could steal his dog or set his house on fire and he's not going to get all that mad at you. He's going to come out and do the same thing he always does. Me, I'm not like that. I get pretty upset pretty quickly. I don't like having an entrance or anything like that too set in stone. A lot of guys come out and have the exact little dance or exact little thing that goes off at the right time with the pyro. What if I'm not in the mood to do my little dance this week? Q: So you aim for each performance to be one-of-a-kind and must see? A: I don't like my wrestling or entertainment in general to be too clean or predictable for me as a fan. When I say clean, I'm not talking about dirty jokes, middle fingers and stuff like that. I'm actually not even a big fan of that. A lot of people talk about the attitude era being so great but a lot of it was terrible crap, sex jokes and over-the-top terrible bad comedy. It was Jerry Springer-like. They made a joke about a woman's breasts. Hilarious, but where's the wrestling? I look back on a lot of stuff now, and I'm like where's the wrestling? It's just a lot of crappy jokes. Q: “WrestleMania 31” will be your first one as a singles wrestler. Do you have a particular dream match for WrestleMania? A: As far as realistic ones, I have some in mind. I'll keep that under my hat for right now because you never know what's going to happen. Unrealistic opponents, if our eras had crossed, we were barely one generation apart, he was at 11:59 and I was at 12:01 — I would have loved to do something with Mick Foley or Cactus Jack or whatever version of him. If we would have crossed paths in like 1994, you would have seen one of the most gross, violent, entertaining spectacles that ever was. That's been relegated to the dream match world now. A guy like Bret Hart. I watch his work back now as a professional knowing what I'm doing. I watch back the matches I loved as a kid, and he's such a forward thinker. He saw the whole picture in his head kind of storyteller. He's not a wing-it-on-the-fly kind of guy. Even though I'm a wing-it kind of guy, I also really like to see the whole picture in my head a year ahead. Not just the match but the whole storyline a year ahead of time. I have how I'm going to get there, but I have visions in my head and I just see what happens. Those two guys, being able to put my mind with their minds and create something if we had crossed paths, I'd like to create with those two guys. Those are two dream WrestleMania opponents for you. As far as anything realistic for you to talk about, I'm not going to give you anything, sorry. Read more: triblive.com/sports/prowrestling/6915234-74/ambrose-lot-wrestling#ixzz3Fl7IsWgm
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Post by randomone on Oct 12, 2014 11:33:59 GMT -6
Jericho coming back is only for house shows in Europe. So it doesn't look like he'll be on TV. Maybe once to promote it? I don't see why he would.
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Post by November KS on Oct 13, 2014 0:48:56 GMT -6
Todd Chrisley tonight!!
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Post by November KS on Oct 13, 2014 14:18:33 GMT -6
Reddit user MetsFan4Ever, who is believed to be a backstage worker in WWE and has broken stories in the past, noted that the Dean Ambrose vs. John Cena match will actually take place on Raw next week and not at Hell in a Cell. He noted that it has been the original plan to do the match on Raw with the winner facing Seth Rollins at Hell in a Cell. He noted that the change will be made on tonight’s Raw. He also noted that the “contract on a pole” stipulation was not in the original plans and was just thrown in as a swerve. He also noted a couple of weeks ago that Brie Bella and Nikki Bella will face each other at the pay-per-view in the cell but noted recently that they actually will not be in the cell so plans have apparently changed (for the better actually). He noted that there will be a stipulation where the loser has to be the winner’s assistant. wrestlingnews.co/major-change-to-hell-in-a-cell-leads-to-a-major-match-raw-next-week-rumor-on-divas-match/
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Post by randomone on Oct 13, 2014 15:03:04 GMT -6
Is it wrong I would've preferred Tits & Hippie in the cell as opposed to a shitty stip like loser becomes the assistant? Which is fairly obvious Tits will win & they'll run it into the ground.
It is amazing how over Hippie was against Steph, but within a week, this feud with Tits just crashed miserably. Brie seems to only be over when she does the Yes Yes Yes thing at the end of her matches.
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Post by November KS on Oct 14, 2014 23:07:17 GMT -6
I'm sure they'll beat this into the ground and somehow make it suck BUT this might just work!!
As noted earlier, the Randy Orton RKO vine clips have gone viral. It’s one of the few times Orton has been a fan of the internet. He has been retweeting different RKO videos on his twitter account. F4WOnline.com noted that he spent all day on Sunday watching the videos and the RKO on Dolph Ziggler last night was an homage to everyone that’s been creating the videos. The word is that you’ll likely see this play out more when he turns babyface.
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Post by randomone on Oct 14, 2014 23:23:15 GMT -6
They joked about it on Chris Hardwick's show @midnight tonight too.
It truly is amazing. It'll absolutely be ran into the ground or forgotten altogether, but I'll enjoy it while it last.
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Post by November KS on Oct 15, 2014 14:40:10 GMT -6
I don't think Mick is really Noelle's dad.
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Post by Optimisn on Oct 16, 2014 16:48:14 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Oct 16, 2014 17:03:15 GMT -6
I feel better about Jericho that he tried to do some cool things when he came back only to have Vince kill them.
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Post by randomone on Oct 16, 2014 22:06:40 GMT -6
From this moment on, I'll be using "Bad Cow" whenever WWE has a pointless storyline with no direction. So pretty much get used to hearing "Bad Cow" a bunch.
I agree, had Vince not been having a shitty steak, maybe this whole directionless Wyatt & pointless Orton match would've had some direction & reason behind it. Fuckin Vince & his steak.
I also remember the tattoo idea Jericho had. That would've been pretty fuckin cool & drawn a bunch of heat had Jericho tattooed his name on Punk.
I don't go out & buy books much anymore, but I'm looking forward to reading his 3rd book. I really enjoyed the first two.
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Post by November KS on Oct 16, 2014 22:56:58 GMT -6
Really enjoyed that Jericho interview. Not just because I'm a Jericho guy but it was really solid.
"Bad Cow" is hilarious.
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