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Post by randomone on Jan 4, 2017 18:47:39 GMT -6
Kenny Omega is the best in the world.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jan 4, 2017 19:27:50 GMT -6
That table spot and the suplex from the top were nuts.
Kenny fucking flew into that table.
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Post by Optimisn on Jan 4, 2017 22:07:48 GMT -6
I haven't watched the match, but I watched the high spots on Twitter at 7 AM on the train. I felt like those were probably the bumps, just trusting the performers. I was probably right. Can't wait to watch it.
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Post by randomone on Jan 4, 2017 22:24:28 GMT -6
Highly suggest checking out Kushida/Takahashi, Shibata/Goto & Naito/Tanahashi as well. The final 4 matches were fantastic in different ways.
The whole show is fun. Top to bottom. So I'd suggest checking the whole show out.
Couldn't stop laughing at Corino fawning over the ladies that Yujiro brought out with the Bullet Club in the gauntlet match. 2 of the girls looked hot, others, yeesh, not so much.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jan 5, 2017 6:17:37 GMT -6
Suzuki Gun is back in New Japan!
Suzuki challenges Okada and chokes him out.
Nice angle.
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Post by randomone on Jan 5, 2017 8:53:34 GMT -6
Meltzer gave Omega/Okada 6 stars. He said it may have been the greatest pro wrestling match in history.
It's arguably the greatest New Japan match I've watched. And I've seen some fucking amazing matches too.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jan 6, 2017 6:14:49 GMT -6
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Post by randomone on Jan 6, 2017 10:01:24 GMT -6
Seeing as Okada will be feuding with Suzuki for at least the next few months, it makes sense for him to take some time off, which he deserves for sure. I honestly don't see him going to WWE. I mean, they'd be smart to throw as much money at him as possible, but he's publicly stated recently he doesn't want to be just another guy in WWE.
I think Omega will be NJPW Heavyweight Champ by the time G1 rolls around.
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Post by sav on Jan 6, 2017 11:47:48 GMT -6
I think the E would neuter him so much he will just become another guy. Especially since he isn't a giant guy to begin with. But I think money will talk and he'll go there with the other good brothers.
Surprise entrant in the Rumble?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 22:27:21 GMT -6
Meltzer gave Omega/Okada 6 stars. He said it may have been the greatest pro wrestling match in history. It's arguably the greatest New Japan match I've watched. And I've seen some fucking amazing matches too. I need to watch it but it's hard for me to wrap my head around this being the best wrestling match of all time. Did it just have the best spots of all time? Two totally different things.
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Post by randomone on Jan 13, 2017 22:43:14 GMT -6
Take out the gifs I posted & I still firmly believe it's one of the best matches I've ever seen.
Please do yourself a favor & take 45 minutes and watch it in its entirety. Even the entrance & video package before it. It's all part of the greatness.
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Post by randomone on Jan 13, 2017 23:58:19 GMT -6
I'm literally watching the match again, after I responded, but with Japanese commentary, as I have only watched with English. Nothing against Corino & Kelly, who were fantastic this whole card, but Japanese commentary is the way to go with this match.
This is truly a masterpiece. It in no way feels like 45 minutes. Plus if you know the backstory with the amazing performances Kenny put in to win the G1 to earn this shot, it's even better.
The amount of crescendo's this match has is fucking incredible.
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Post by Optimisn on Jan 15, 2017 13:44:21 GMT -6
Watching Okada/Omega for the first time before the UK tournament. My goodness that dropkick to the back of Okada's head.........
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Post by Optimisn on Jan 15, 2017 14:03:04 GMT -6
Humans aren't supposed to do these things to their heads.
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Post by Optimisn on Jan 16, 2017 23:52:55 GMT -6
OK, I'm ready for Drop In heat. I put KOTR 01 on for Kurt. I just watched Edge v Rhyno in the tournament. Granted, this was fifteen years ago. I know times have to change. Things will evolve. But they missed a couple spears, and Edge hit a double arm DDT for the big finish win. That happened, off the baricade, on the outside, in roughly minute eleven during Okada v Omega.
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Post by cij79 on Jan 17, 2017 6:58:41 GMT -6
Taker vs Shawn 1 was better. Kevin Kelly was horrible on commentary.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jan 17, 2017 7:40:44 GMT -6
Easy Corny.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jan 17, 2017 7:41:51 GMT -6
Cyrus is replacing Steve Corino on the English commentary for New Japan. I think he starts at the New Beginning shows.
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Post by cij79 on Jan 17, 2017 8:02:04 GMT -6
It was a really good match that was 15 mins too long.
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Post by randomone on Jan 17, 2017 8:08:10 GMT -6
I liked the match more with Japanese commentary. Do I know what they are saying, hell no, but it was more entertaining to me. I actually really enjoyed Kevin Kelly on the call though, 5,000 times better than anything you'll hear in the WWE.
I'm def not going to criticize anyone who thinks it should've been shorter, but I really liked the match length. Just when you think they were going home, they kicked it into another gear. It didn't seem like just another great New Japan match, it was on a whole other level.
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Post by Optimisn on Jan 17, 2017 8:39:08 GMT -6
I'm with Chris. I thought it was great, but the over the top (great movie) love is to start a debate in my opinion. It's not six stars, whatever the fuck that means.
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Post by randomone on Jan 17, 2017 8:44:48 GMT -6
I'm not saying it was better than Shawn/Taker, but star ratings aside, I'm sticking with what I said, it's one of the greatest matches I've ever seen & possibly the greatest New Japan match.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jan 17, 2017 9:22:22 GMT -6
It was a really good match that was 15 mins too long. Agree to disagree.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jan 17, 2017 9:24:27 GMT -6
I'm with Chris. I thought it was great, but the over the top (great movie) love is to start a debate in my opinion. It's not six stars, whatever the fuck that means. 6 stars I've heard said is saying that it is so over the top better than any match in its time that it can't be rated the same. I can see that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 14:41:00 GMT -6
Take out the gifs I posted & I still firmly believe it's one of the best matches I've ever seen. Please do yourself a favor & take 45 minutes and watch it in its entirety. Even the entrance & video package before it. It's all part of the greatness. That's fine and I will. But again, 6 stars? This makes Dave look even more foolish than I already think he is. It's incredibly fucking stupid he did that.
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Post by randomone on Jan 22, 2017 16:31:23 GMT -6
Meltzer also gave a Steamboat/Flair match 6 stars back in the 80s too (one he said was even better than the Chi-Town Rumble). So this isn't the first time. It's just the more publicized one.
I totally get people thinking it's silly, but Dave thought it was better than even a 5 star match. So I'm cool with it.
Have I mentioned we're best friends?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 20:38:23 GMT -6
Your blind loyalty to that man depresses the shit out of me.
Also, the idea to give a full star rating over all the 5 stars he graded is fucking stupid.
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Post by November KS on Jan 22, 2017 20:52:47 GMT -6
If 5 stars is the max, you can't make up some shit and give it 6 stars. He's such a putz. He's no different than movie reviewers or any other type of reviewer. Everyone's tastes are different. I put zero weight into reviews. Some people tell me Super Troopers is awesome. I thought it was the worst movie that I had ever seen until I saw Good Burger. And hell, some people like that as well.
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Post by randomone on Jan 22, 2017 20:58:00 GMT -6
The Gift of Meltzer. Drink It In Maaaaannnn.....
I'd be lying if I said I didn't thoroughly enjoy reading your guys' displeasure of Big Dave.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 18:26:43 GMT -6
If 5 stars is the max, you can't make up some shit and give it 6 stars. He's such a putz. He's no different than movie reviewers or any other type of reviewer. Everyone's tastes are different. I put zero weight into reviews. Some people tell me Super Troopers is awesome. I thought it was the worst movie that I had ever seen until I saw Good Burger. And hell, some people like that as well. The difference is Ebert didn't give 3 thumbs up for Shawshank Redemption. It's fucking dumb and he's become a desperate attention whore in a crowded wresting content world. He somehow cheapened himself.
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