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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 18:06:47 GMT -6
Two fantasy booking thoughts I have if its true that Brock Lesnar's last wrestle date is Wrestlemania.
1. The John Cena Heel Turn - Yes, I know this will never happen. That's why its fantasy booking. Here's the setup. Lesnar loses the title to Cena at Rumble. Lesnar goes on to some other fantasy booking fight at Mania (maybe The Rock? doubtful). Meanwhile at Rumble Daniel Bryan wins. This sets up Cena vs Bryan at Wrestlemania which has been an on again, off again flirtation of those two meeting again. So where's the heel turn come in? Bryan goes on an incredible winning streak run into Mania. This makes Cena nervous. He starts to get slightly bothered that people cheer for Reigns, Bryan, Ziggler, Sandow, etc, but he kepts getting major heat. Now at Mania, after it looks like Bryan may have this thing locked up out comes Triple H. He knocks out the ref, pedigrees Bryan, and pulls off his buttoned up shirt to reveal a ref shirt. Cena goes for the count. H counts to 2 but Bryan kicks out. In a nod to The Rock-Austin-McMahon storyline from Wrestlemania 17, H and Cena continue to chair shot and beat the living shit out of Bryan only to have him continue to kick out. After about 5-7 minutes of this, finally Cena gets the win. H and Cena celebrate. Cena had put Trips and Stephanie back into power the night before. And away we go.
2. Seth Rollins vs. Daniel Bryan - Again, I have Lesnar and Cena at Rumble. One of two things can happen here. Either Lesnar or Cena can get the win, but this time Seth cashes in the money in the bank briefcase and gets the win. D-Bry wins Rumble. Now you have Rollins vs Bryan at mania for the title. These two put on some of the best matches I've ever seen. I think it'd be a great mania title main event match.
I don't want Lesnar in the predictable role of losing the belt at mania. What I'd like is to see him take on either Reigns at Mania for no title or better yet, lose to Cesaro at Mania...
Fantasy booking kids....I know better
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Post by randomone on Nov 25, 2014 8:08:05 GMT -6
So someone posted the number of Big Show turns from his WWE run alone on reddit. Got this from the Botchamania Facebook page. Guarantee you we can add to this 4 or 5 more times before the Rumble easily.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Nov 25, 2014 8:10:38 GMT -6
I feel sorry for whomever put that list together.
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Post by November KS on Nov 26, 2014 0:32:41 GMT -6
Justin Credible if true.
Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
There were reportedly a lot of last-minute changes made to this week's edition of WWE Monday Night Raw. At one point John Cena was actually supposed to reveal the new General Manager of Raw but that plan was scrapped. The reason why the Anonymous General Manager was brought back is because WWE can't decide who they want to name as the new GM.
At this point it's uncertain how long the Anonymous General Manager might be used.
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Post by randomone on Nov 26, 2014 17:05:44 GMT -6
Apparently Kofi, Big E & Woods re-debut this Friday on Smackdown instead of RAW next week like it said on the promo Monday.
I almost wish they were heels, but I know the tag division has more heel teams than faces. See them come out & act like they're saving the Usos or someone & then beat them down claiming it truly is a new day. Unfortunately that won't happen. Kinda be interesting to see how Kofi would act as a heel, but I think he's a face forever.
Or go completely Teddy Long 2002 when he did the racial stuff & have them be pissed they were overlooked for so long. It being ridiculous they had to return on Black Friday & had to dance in front of a choir and preach when all they wanted was an opportunity & never got it. Have them be super bitter & say it's a new day alright, because the Kofi, Big E & Woods you knew and loved is gone. They're not about the fans anymore, they're about making their own opportunities. That would never ever happen seeing as all the shit going down in the riots recently & race being a major issue.
I saw the Smackdown results though & nothing like that happens and they just have a normal match, lol.
Just fantasy heel booking before they get lost in the shuffle again.
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Post by November KS on Nov 26, 2014 21:11:25 GMT -6
I really hope we don't get to the point where we know Brock is going back to UFC and therefore losing at Mania.
I find it a bit hard to believe that Brock would even consider it, since the last few times I saw him in UFC - he was getting his ass kicked something fierce.
But whatever this current arrangement they have with Brock - just sucks.
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Post by November KS on Nov 26, 2014 21:19:21 GMT -6
So far WWE has announced Dean Ambrose vs Bray Wyatt in a TLC match and Kane vs. Ryback in a chairs match. Big Show vs. Erick Rowan is another match that is scheduled but has not been announced yet. That match will likely be a gimmick match too. WWE is also teasing Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler for the Intercontinental title.
The main event that was talked about last week was John Cena vs. Seth Rollins vs. Randy Orton. That would likely be a TLC match too. Orton is scheduled to return any week now. They could hold off Randy Orton’s return for that show. Also, it looks like they’ll do another Nikki Bella vs. AJ Lee Divas title match for the TLC pay-per-view.
Roman Reigns, Brock Lesnar, and Rey Mysterio are all set to be regular names on WWE TV very soon.
News from WrestlingObserver.com was used in this post.
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Post by Danny Busch on Nov 26, 2014 21:55:11 GMT -6
So far WWE has announced Dean Ambrose vs Bray Wyatt in a TLC match and Kane vs. Ryback in a chairs match. Big Show vs. Erick Rowan is another match that is scheduled but has not been announced yet. That match will likely be a gimmick match too. WWE is also teasing Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler for the Intercontinental title. The main event that was talked about last week was John Cena vs. Seth Rollins vs. Randy Orton. That would likely be a TLC match too. Orton is scheduled to return any week now. They could hold off Randy Orton’s return for that show. Also, it looks like they’ll do another Nikki Bella vs. AJ Lee Divas title match for the TLC pay-per-view. Roman Reigns, Brock Lesnar, and Rey Mysterio are all set to be regular names on WWE TV very soon. News from WrestlingObserver.com was used in this post. oh god dammit. Lcw is back again to be fat, terrible and poorly dressed?? I have missed most of the last 2 weeks. If this shit roster of big show, lcw and ryback dominate raw then that 2 week hiatus might never end.
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Post by November KS on Nov 27, 2014 22:08:29 GMT -6
According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the original plan for last Monday’s Raw was not the Daniel Bryan return. The site reports that the original plan was to do a segment with Vince McMahon and John Cena, which would have led to a period with no authority figure on the show for the night. The current plan is to have weekly rotating General Managers, some of which may end up being celebrities.I, for one, am eagerly looking forward to this.
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Post by randomone on Nov 27, 2014 23:31:37 GMT -6
With the calibur of celebrities (i use that term as loosely as possible) they've been getting recently, I'll stop watching until right after the Rumble if they do that.
You need it to be a heel GM, face ones get stale quick, so fuck it, have Cena/Vince go back and forth, Cena suggest there should be no authority figure on the show, Vince disagrees & says tonight we'll have a company wide battle royal. Any employee who wants a chance to be the next General Manager of RAW can compete.
Then you fucking pack the ring, jobbers, mid carders, main guys, even some agents & officials to make it even more unique. Hell have a Diva get tossed, who gives a shit. Then you have it down to Cena & someone, say Rollins. Have Cena win, his music hits only to have JBL come from out of nowhere & eliminate him with a serious look on his face to end the show.
We have a heel authority figure. We get rid of JBL's God damn horrible commentary & we're off to the races. Not saying he should dominate the show, but have him there to interact.
Just spitballing ideas. Instead of that, I'm sure it'll be Pauly Shore running RAW one week. Slater vs Bunny in a Encino Man DVD on a pole match.
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Post by randomone on Nov 28, 2014 13:37:58 GMT -6
Quick question I just had, with Steen debuting soon. Do you think he'll be able to still use the Package Piledriver?
I could be wrong, but I had thought WWE put a stop to the Piledriver a long time ago. Only times I've seen it used are by Cena a few times and of course the Tombstones.
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Post by November KS on Nov 28, 2014 13:50:45 GMT -6
Quick question I just had, with Steen debuting soon. Do you think he'll be able to still use the Package Piledriver? I could be wrong, but I had thought WWE put a stop to the Piledriver a long time ago. Only times I've seen it used are by Cena a few times and of course the Tombstones. Highly doubtful
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Post by Danny Busch on Nov 28, 2014 13:51:38 GMT -6
Ryback doing anything in the ring is still more of a risk than a piledriver.
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Post by November KS on Nov 28, 2014 13:54:51 GMT -6
Speaking of Ryback.....
After deleting several tweets about CM Punk, Ryback posted another message on Twitter this afternoon:
"Last message on this. I will tell the truth about @cmpunk comments in due time. Not once did he ever confront me. Let's all move on. Thank u"
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Nov 28, 2014 14:01:17 GMT -6
Quick question I just had, with Steen debuting soon. Do you think he'll be able to still use the Package Piledriver? I could be wrong, but I had thought WWE put a stop to the Piledriver a long time ago. Only times I've seen it used are by Cena a few times and of course the Tombstones. No chance.
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Post by November KS on Nov 28, 2014 18:15:53 GMT -6
Bryan Alvarez has news on the WWE backstage reaction on what CM Punk said on Colt Cabana’s podcast. Alvarez said that virtually everybody that listened to what Punk said thought it was awesome. Punk has fans and detractors in WWE. When Punk left there were some people that were happy because Punk was so unhappy towards the end of his run. Punk admitted on the podcast that he was tired of telling people to “F*ck off.” Alvarez noted that even people that were not fans of Punk were fans of a lot of the stuff that he talked about on the podcast. There are a lot of people in the company that are afraid to ask questions to management and those people were happy that it was laid out on the table on the podcast because a lot of what he said are things that people are afraid to say to management (issues with pay, etc). Alvarez says that Vince McMahon is upset but not “fuming.” Alvarez said that it’s very unlikely that McMahon will talk about this in depth on Steve Austin’s podcast on the WWE Network. Of course, it’s all up to Vince so he could always change his mind. Triple H is “furious” and wants to “kill Punk” according to a text that Alvarez received from someone in the company. Alvarez noted that Hunter and Stephanie McMahon have such a hatred of CM Punk. Colt Cabana s said to be on WWE’s “sh*tlist” and the company is extremely unhappy with Colt Cabana as of today. Most of the wrestlers are not tweeting about this so there may be a company directive given to them about this. I highly recommend that you listen to Alvarez’ news update on Punk and the backstage reaction by clicking on the player below. I'm about to give the show a listen. (Free Today!!) www.f4wonline.com/radio-archive/figure-four-daily?year=2014&month=11&limit=20&order=DESC
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Post by cij79 on Nov 28, 2014 19:53:40 GMT -6
This show dropped Wed night or Thursday morning so how is everyone pissed backstage when everyone is home for the holidays?
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Post by November KS on Nov 28, 2014 21:52:17 GMT -6
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Post by Optimisn on Nov 29, 2014 10:38:22 GMT -6
Found this elsewhere.
I love the story of the Big Show/Khali fight in Jericho's latest book.
Basically the Big Show was pissed at Khali because he kept stealing Show's "Hush the crowd and slap the chest" spot. After enough times, Show snapped and told him he was the shits and Khali's response was "You're the shits too, Bro" which Jericho thought was the funniest comeback ever. So they started slugging it out and Big Show tripped over some bags, Khali landed on top of him and it was broken up.
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Post by randomone on Nov 29, 2014 12:11:12 GMT -6
The entrance for the New Day seems like one you could make on a video game for your create-a-wrestler. Also I know that they add in cheers/boos for the shows, but holy shit, that was the worst most unbelievable added in cheers I think I've ever heard.
I actually liked the match. That's not the issue, they are actually a very entertaining team. I think it's this whole happy go lucky go get'em team will get stale before even Monday. Hell after the match they had Cole clapping & waving his hands back and forth.
They need to be heel, simple as that. Woods can cut promos, Kofi is the technician/flyer, Big E is the power. If all this thing ends up being is "everybody clap your hands!" and nothing more, what a missed opportunity.
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Post by November KS on Nov 30, 2014 0:01:58 GMT -6
For anyone doubting CM Punk’s story about being cleared to get back in the ring over the phone by WWE’s doctor, well this isn’t the first time this has come up. Charlie Haas said similar things back in 2010 about Dr. Joseph Maroon. He is the WWE doctor from Pittsburgh that WWE uses for their talent. Here’s an excerpt from the story that was originally written at concussioninc.net. In January of this year, Charlie Haas himself suffered a serious neck injury in WWE during a match with Drew McIntyre. As a lifelong amateur and pro, Haas knew all about neck injuries, but this one was different. He got an MRI, which showed “mild to moderate” herniation of two disks, the C-6 and the T-1. He was told to undergo physical therapy and, if that didn’t work, to consider major spinal fusion surgery. Haas shipped the MRI images from his Dallas home to the Pittsburgh clinic of Dr. Joseph Maroon, WWE’s resident neurologist and medical director (who also works for the Pittsburgh Steelers and serves on the National Football League’s now-discredited concussion policy committee). In his only remark to me that could be termed directly critical of WWE, Haas said, “Maroon told me, ‘You had a stinger . You’re good to go.’ And I’m thinking, ‘How can he make that diagnosis from Pittsburgh?’”
Haas had physical therapy but it didn’t take. On February 26, 2010, WWE cut him. He is a realist: he knows that he was always typecast as a “utility wrestler,’”technically skilled and able to make the top guys look good and to teach the younger guys how to work. As a non-main eventer, he was prone to release.
wrestlingnews.co/cm-punk-is-not-the-only-former-wwe-star-to-criticize-wwes-handling-of-injuries/Yesterday I noted that Charlie Haas was critical of Dr. Joseph Maroon with how he treated his injury. You can read more about that by clicking here. Bob Holly is another wrestler that has been critical of WWE’s system and the way they handle injuries. In his book, The Hardcore Truth, Holly talks about what happened to him on the day Eddie Guerrero died. Holly said that he had a bump on his underarm that would not go away. Holly noted that when he got to Minneapolis he felt like he had the flu. He was checked out by WWE’s doctor Rios backstage and was told that he had a staph infection that spread to his forearm. Dr. Rios told John Laurinaitis that Holly needed to go to the hospital to get it taken care of because he was really sick. Laurinaitis, according to Holly’s book, said that he was needed on the overseas tour so he’d have to wait before going to the hospital. Holly said that Laurinaitis insisted that he go on the overseas tour even though Holly told him that he was “sick as hell.” Holly said, ” If I’d refused to go, they would have probably fired me. Maybe that’s how Eddie had felt.” So Holly worked the tour and by the time they got to Germany his forearm got swollen up to twice its normal size. Dr. Rios tried to drain the infection but that didn’t help because the infection had already spread to the bone. Holly was hospitalized and learned that he had MRSA, which is what Punk had. Holly noted that surgery didn’t work and he was put on Vancoycin, which is a last resort antibiotic. Luckily it worked but doctors told him that his arm would have been amputated if the Vancoycin didn’t work. Holly says he was told, “That man [Laurinaitis] is the reason you ended up in the hospital and nearly lost your arm.” Holly also said that “Because they’d gone against Dr. Rios’s orders, the company was very liable and they knew that they had set themselves up for a huge lawsuit. I could tell because they were kissing my ass the whole time I was off, telling me not to worry about anything and that they’d get me anything I needed.”
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Post by November KS on Nov 30, 2014 0:03:33 GMT -6
Not sure why that one part ended up light blue. Weird.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 9:16:33 GMT -6
I believe Punk 100% in regards to this medical stuff. The fact WWE didn't even defend the doctor he went after in their press release only made the matter worse. As a shareholder, I will be asking specific questions around this in the Q4 review call.
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Post by November KS on Dec 2, 2014 19:55:17 GMT -6
- Count Rene Dupree among those who believe the medical details from CM Punk’s interview on Colt Cabana’s The Art of Wrestling podcast. Dupree, a former WWE tag team champion (and in fact the youngest person to win that title), spoke with Slam Wrestling and said he had a similar medical situation come up where a WWE doctor tried to save the company money over a serious health risk.
Dupree, who you may remember from his tag teams with Sylvain Grenier and Rob Conway, told the site that in the fall of 2004 he was suffering from a hematoma in his right temple. He was given the night off of the Smackdown taping and went to fly to Cincinnati, when the hematoma burst. Check out the highlights:
On being given the Smackdown taping off: “They were going to put me in the ring, but then Michael Hayes came around and said, ‘Hey man, can you actually work?’ I said, ‘I don’t know.’ I wasn’t going to go in the ring, regardless. I had this massive thing on my head. I went in and talked to Stephanie [McMahon], and Stephanie said, ‘No, take the night off.'”
On the hematoma bursting: “The pressure in the cabin changes when you touch down, and the f—ing thing just exploded in the lavatory. It looked like I got shot in the head there was so much blood. I was wearing a white Gold’s Gym t-shirt and it was covered in blood…To [Triple H’s] credit, he stayed with me the whole time, made sure that I was okay and got off the plane. But when the paramedics and EMTs and said, ‘Listen, you’ve got to go to the hospital now, because … you could die.’ Chris Candido had died a few months earlier from a blood clot in his leg — I had one in my f—ing temple. But I could see the trainer, when the EMTs were talking, our trainer was looking at me, shaking his head ‘no’ because it would have cost the company too much money. Basically, that’s what I got [from the trainer].”
On the whole incident: “The way I look at it, I risked my life to save the company a few extra bucks…One time, Johnny Stamboli, he got berated in front of the locker room because he was icing his shoulder — and that’s when I thought, ‘Holy f—.’ That’s one thing my dad always told me too, ‘If you’re hurt, don’t let any of the office see it.’ And that’s coming from a guy from the ’50s. That’s a long tradition in wrestling; if you’re hurt, don’t let the office see it because then they’ll think, ‘Aw, this guy’s not strong enough, he’s not tough enough to hack it.'”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 20:41:04 GMT -6
I really think Stephanie McMahon is the savior this company needs, but not the one we will get for a long time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but has anyone ever publicly blasted Stephanie? If anything, I hear former workers say nothing but good things it mention she's the only one with half a brain left.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Dec 2, 2014 20:47:14 GMT -6
I really think Stephanie McMahon is the savior this company needs, but not the one we will get for a long time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but has anyone ever publicly blasted Stephanie? If anything, I hear former workers say nothing but good things it mention she's the only one with half a brain left. Macho Man privately blasted Stephanie. If the rumors are to be believed.
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Post by November KS on Dec 2, 2014 20:52:24 GMT -6
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Post by Danny Busch on Dec 2, 2014 20:52:33 GMT -6
Isn't that because he want to blast her in the face and got denied?
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Post by Danny Busch on Dec 2, 2014 20:53:48 GMT -6
Now I see the tracks this train is taking...........
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Post by November KS on Dec 3, 2014 12:36:35 GMT -6
A warrant for Heath Slater (real name Heath Miller) has been issued by Atlanta police after an incident at the WrestleMania 27 after party in 2011. The news is being reported locally on Atlanta’s Fox 5 television. Slater is accused of putting Corinne Oliver, who worked security at the event, in a chokehold and attempting to get her in an elevator and dragging her back to his room at the Hyatt Regency. She claims that the alleged attacked caused damage to five vertebrae in her back.
The incidient was reported the morning after the incident to her supervisor. A police report was not filed until three months later. Oliver says that she waited for her supervisors at Allied Barton Securities to file the police report, which they never did. She also says that other wrestlers witnessed the incident and did not help. WWE attorney Jerry McDevitt issued a statement saying that the charges are being filed against Slater as an individual and not against the company. The charge in the police report is described as “simple assault/battery.”
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