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Post by Danny Busch on Dec 13, 2014 22:51:26 GMT -6
I think I could deal with the 5 minute matches...its the chopped up entrances that piss me off. I absolutely hate them doing an entrance and then going to commercial....as if they are just going to stand around the ring with their fists up their asses for 5 minutes doing nothing.
More managers = more entertainment during the match as well. Paul is never on and Dutch might be every other week for 1 spot. Lana is the only one that is always on.
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Post by Optimisn on Dec 13, 2014 22:53:23 GMT -6
We're the core. It gives you an audience the size of TNA. The bullshit we hate brings the people that won't watch every show. The people that went away didn't leave because of short matches. They left because it wasn't cool. The NWO was dead, and the Attitude Era ran out. By the way, a ton of the underneath stuff sucked in the Attitude Era. The current product is not good. My vision of WWE would bring the worlds closer. The entertainment crap we get today, and what everyone is talking about. Wrestling.
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Post by Optimisn on Dec 13, 2014 22:57:29 GMT -6
I think I could deal with the 5 minute matches...its the chopped up entrances that piss me off. I absolutely hate them doing an entrance and then going to commercial....as if they are just going to stand around the ring with their fists up their asses for 5 minutes doing nothing. More managers = more entertainment during the match as well. Paul is never on and Dutch might be every other week for 1 spot. Lana is the only one that is always on. The lack of entrances completely contradicts Vince's view of wrestling. Spectacle, promote, and make me care about the performer. If they're standing in the ring after the commercial, it's "what your dad did" Vince. I think it's often because of live timing. Which I don't accept either. They, WWE, put on a ton of live television. There's no reason the timing is off all the time. Except for Vince and Co changing the script constantly and making it too difficult. |
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Post by Danny Busch on Dec 13, 2014 22:58:11 GMT -6
Another thing that would help is to retool the announce table. These guys are pretty awful. The New Day "these guys are really fun" are you kidding me with that crap?? I don't know how to fix it but they really make it painful at times.
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Post by November KS on Dec 13, 2014 23:01:06 GMT -6
You can absolutely have both entrances and a match in a 10-12 minute slot. I hate their production with the chopped entrances and 2 minutes of the match. Treat the divas match like that....not the actual good matches. I'm even willing to forego some of the entrances as long as guys can just flippin' wrestle a bit longer. Just rotate them from week to week. One week you get your entrance the next week you don't. And so on. Except the Usos. That entrance should never be shown. The only thing I ask is that in matches involving a champion, the champion comes out second. ALWAYS. Unless your ONLY WORLD CHAMPION is sitting at home, isolated as fuck from the rest of civilization (because bumfuck fricken fuck outback Minnesota wasn't isolated enough) FUCK YOU VINCE!! |
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Post by Optimisn on Dec 13, 2014 23:03:23 GMT -6
Another thing that would help is to retool the announce table. These guys are pretty awful. The New Day "these guys are really fun" are you kidding me with that crap?? I don't know how to fix it but they really make it painful at times. JBL and Cole would be fine if they weren't being produced in the current fashion. Lawler's time has come and gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 23:03:57 GMT -6
My concern is a corporate outsider will make it even more PG than it is now. That is my concern.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Dec 13, 2014 23:05:04 GMT -6
NXT is the closest we will ever get to professional wrestling under the WWE banner.
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Post by Optimisn on Dec 13, 2014 23:05:16 GMT -6
You can absolutely have both entrances and a match in a 10-12 minute slot. I hate their production with the chopped entrances and 2 minutes of the match. Treat the divas match like that....not the actual good matches. I'm even willing to forego some of the entrances as long as guys can just flippin' wrestle a bit longer. Just rotate them from week to week. One week you get your entrance the next week you don't. And so on. Except the Usos. That entrance should never be shown. The only thing I ask is that in matches involving a champion, the champion comes out second. ALWAYS. Unless your ONLY WORLD CHAMPION is sitting at home, isolated as fuck from the rest of civilization (because bumfuck fricken fuck outback Minnesota wasn't isolated enough) FUCK YOU VINCE!! The champion coming out first has been an issue since the late-90's. Drives me nuts, yaarrrrh, whenever it occurs. |
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Post by Danny Busch on Dec 13, 2014 23:06:03 GMT -6
While we are fixing everything lets limit them to 2 of the mixed tag/3 man tag or whatever other thrown together bullshit team matches per month....and the big show can never be part of any team ever again. I hate these stupid 1 night stand teams they throw together for the main events.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Dec 13, 2014 23:06:43 GMT -6
My concern is a corporate outsider will make it even more PG than it is now. That is my concern. Maybe he'd make it a Y7 show. That'd be fun. |
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Post by November KS on Dec 13, 2014 23:06:52 GMT -6
Another thing that would help is to retool the announce table. These guys are pretty awful. The New Day "these guys are really fun" are you kidding me with that crap?? I don't know how to fix it but they really make it painful at times. They are the worst. And the sad part is that at one point JBL was really good. King hasn't been good since the Attitude era. Miigel does what he's told really well, and is an extremely sharp dresser, but he doesn't let anything breathe. That's where JR was so damn good. (Which is surprising that it took him so long to let his guest "breathe" on the podcast. But I digress.) Anywho, the one thing in common they all have is Vince in their headset all night long. So again, #FUCKYOUVINCE |
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Post by November KS on Dec 13, 2014 23:07:55 GMT -6
My concern is a corporate outsider will make it even more PG than it is now. That is my concern. Is that really possible? |
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Post by November KS on Dec 13, 2014 23:10:37 GMT -6
While we are fixing everything lets limit them to 2 of the mixed tag/3 man tag or whatever other thrown together bullshit team matches per month....and the big show can never be part of any team ever again. I hate these stupid 1 night stand teams they throw together for the main events. Such lazy booking. But Vince says that the Hollywood writers are indispensable. |
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Post by November KS on Dec 13, 2014 23:11:32 GMT -6
Gosh darnit, where's my Fish Oil pills. See what you people have done??
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Dec 13, 2014 23:12:17 GMT -6
Go to bed grandpa!
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Post by Optimisn on Dec 13, 2014 23:13:52 GMT -6
My concern is a corporate outsider will make it even more PG than it is now. That is my concern. We would ultimately win because it would create a greater need for an alternative. But wrestling is so dead right now, even WWE can't capitalize on rights fees. It still stuns me live wrestling on cable couldn't get a big contract. BILLIONS of dollars are being tossed around for live entertainment. But Destination America is the best TNA could get. WWE received a small percentage of expectations. Jarrett has Toby Keith's money and can't find a public access deal. The market doesn't exist. All in all, WWE experiencing a hostile takeover would eventually lead to a big shift. But it could be the shits for years before that takes place. |
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Dec 13, 2014 23:15:40 GMT -6
We are in the shits already.
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Post by November KS on Dec 13, 2014 23:19:51 GMT -6
We are in the shits already. We really are. Random Raw match of Rollins & Ziggler opening Raw, but Cena and Big Show main eventing?  ?? Random throwaway/giveaway 8:30 match between Erick "Big Red" Rowan and Luke Harper??? What the fuck? But Bray Wyatt says the Wyatts are still together. |
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Post by November KS on Dec 13, 2014 23:24:56 GMT -6
And that reminds me. Pick a damn lane, Rowan. It's either Eric with a c, or Erik with a damn k. You don't get both of them!!
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Post by randomone on Dec 13, 2014 23:42:24 GMT -6
So for some reason I popped in the Mr. Wrestlemania HBK DVD today. I rewatched Shawn/Razor from WM10 & the commentary team, who was Vince & King mind you, were so much better than anything I've heard in years. Yeah, Vince in his "What a Maneuver" prime & "Not As Creepy, Yet Still Creepy Enough" Lawler put more effort into calling that match than any match I've watched on RAW in easily 7-8 years.
It absolutely baffles me how they have Rowan/Harper that lasts under 3 minutes happen & have Charlotte debut and lose. Hell if you want to call it a debut, they had a New Day lose their RAW debut in that gauntlet. Vince doesn't care about wins or loses & he hopes fans forget about matches like the Rowan/Harper and Charlotte losses, and while that might be the case, it still doesn't mean it doesn't suck & lazy.
The old fuck needs to make up his mind instead of this last minute bullshit. Until Vince is no longer in charge of final say, it's going to be the same thing.
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Post by Bobby Heenan on Dec 13, 2014 23:51:46 GMT -6
We are in the shits already. Like when Brickhouse used to call our AWA shows. HEY HEY!! |
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Post by November KS on Dec 14, 2014 0:14:36 GMT -6
On a happier note, no matter how bad Vince screws everything up, NOTHING is worse than The Huge Show, which is running right now on WSCR. So there's that.
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Post by Optimisn on Dec 14, 2014 0:23:02 GMT -6
On a happier note, no matter how bad Vince screws everything up, NOTHING is worse than The Huge Show, which is running right now on WSCR. So there's that. Holy hell. I heard that about a month ago coming back from some joint. Offensively bad. |
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Post by Danny Busch on Dec 14, 2014 0:24:20 GMT -6
What is the huge show?
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Post by Optimisn on Dec 14, 2014 0:28:34 GMT -6
I think it's a national show. It's like listening to Mike Franscesa's (sp) shittier brother. By the way, I don't have enough respect for Franscesa to Google his name. It brought me to Kesha levels of annoyed. I don't remember where I was coming home from at the time. But I started speeding and put on music. |
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Post by Danny Busch on Dec 14, 2014 0:34:40 GMT -6
The national shows are so awful.....coming up next lets discuss the mt. rushmore of golfers.....
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Post by November KS on Dec 15, 2014 12:31:26 GMT -6
Below is the full schedule for WWE Week on USA this week:
- Tonight: WWE Raw, The Condemned (starring Steve Austin)
- Tuesday: Live Smackdown and Main Event broadcasts. Main Event begins live at 7pm EST, and Smackdown is live at 8pm EST.
- Wednesday: WWE Tribute to the Troops special
- Sunday: Jingle All The Way 2 (starring Larry The Cable Guy and Santino Marella)
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Post by Bobby Heenan on Dec 15, 2014 13:33:50 GMT -6
I haven't seen it, but hopefully Jingle All the Way 2 borrowed the ending of Thelma and Louise.
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Post by November KS on Dec 15, 2014 13:38:47 GMT -6
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