Optimisn
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Post by Optimisn on Jun 23, 2023 13:02:57 GMT -6
I will say this much. Either Tony wants all of this happening and is fanning the flames for attention, or he handled this horribly.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Jun 23, 2023 13:05:08 GMT -6
I'd like to say it's the former, but I believe it's the latter.
Unless he plans on having them do business, there's no way this should still be going on.
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Post by November KS on Jun 23, 2023 13:17:10 GMT -6
I like Dave
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Jun 23, 2023 14:15:11 GMT -6
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Post by Ryansback on Jun 23, 2023 14:43:03 GMT -6
What if this whole time BRB wasn’t Woodridge but actually Bischoff in disguise? I hope Wyoming is treating you well “BRB”. Tell Conrad we say hi and stop plugging boner pills so much. Don’t think I didn’t notice you saying you watched the AEW main event a few weeks ago. We’ll make a fan out you yet, Eric! I haven’t listened to Eric in, maybe over a year or two? I have no clue what his thoughts are. I tried to watch the main event because some of you really enjoy this and prior to AEW I respected nearly all of your wrestling thoughts. I’m trying to wrap my head around what I’m missing here. I’m Romney watching my fellow republicans drool over Trump.
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Post by Ryansback on Jun 23, 2023 14:45:43 GMT -6
You did enjoy listening to him ramblings with “in’s” on Canadian radio during your wwe viewing days. You always shared the link. I can’t believe that alone has kept you to enjoy his stuff.
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Post by November KS on Jun 23, 2023 14:54:47 GMT -6
You did enjoy listening to him ramblings with “in’s” on Canadian radio during your wwe viewing days. You always shared the link. I can’t believe that alone has kept you to enjoy his stuff. Oh I've addressed that numerous times on here. I absolutely DO NOT like to listen to him audibly. He's a horrific speaker. I generally like the rest of his work though.
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Post by randomone on Jun 23, 2023 14:57:59 GMT -6
Which main event are you talking about?
The Bucks & Hangman vs Mox, Claudio & Yuta? With Kingston returning, Takeshita getting finally face to face with Omega and then the Ospreay finish?
If that’s what you’re referring to, you didn’t enjoy that?
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Post by November KS on Jun 23, 2023 15:34:10 GMT -6
I like Big Dave on Twitter and in the writings of the Observer. I can't stand listening to him though on podcasts and the like. He's just not a polished speaker in the least. See?
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Post by November KS on Jun 23, 2023 15:34:45 GMT -6
I've tried listening to him and Alvarez on Youtube a few times lately and each time I turned it off within 5 minutes. He's constantly smacking his lips and making other gross sounds with his mouth. Also sounds like he swallows after every sentence.
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Post by Ryansback on Jun 23, 2023 16:03:34 GMT -6
Which main event are you talking about? The Bucks & Hangman vs Mox, Claudio & Yuta? With Kingston returning, Takeshita getting finally face to face with Omega and then the Ospreay finish? If that’s what you’re referring to, you didn’t enjoy that? That would be the one. No, I didn’t enjoy it.
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Post by Optimisn on Jun 23, 2023 16:14:17 GMT -6
The slow burn of this imminent randomone/BRB teacher/student feud is our Bloodline story.
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Post by randomone on Jun 23, 2023 16:15:09 GMT -6
Wow. Ok, respect the differing of opinion, but I’m tapping out on that topic then.
I could give a huge explanation why it was one of the best endings to a Dynamite in ages, but if your mind is made up, there’s not really a point.
Totally not upset or anything, there will be differing of opinions. Agree to disagree.
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Post by randomone on Jun 23, 2023 16:16:10 GMT -6
The slow burn of this imminent randomone/BRB teacher/student feud is our Bloodline story. Nah I could never be mad at BRB. He introduced me to you degenerates 10 years ago (you’re welcome for hitting the jackpot by the way!). We disagree on this one, but that’s cool.
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Post by Ryansback on Jun 23, 2023 17:35:04 GMT -6
Wow. Ok, respect the differing of opinion, but I’m tapping out on that topic then. I could give a huge explanation why it was one of the best endings to a Dynamite in ages, but if your mind is made up, there’s not really a point. Totally not upset or anything, there will be differing of opinions. Agree to disagree. Actually the end of dynamite and all that was fine. But all the wrestling leading up to it was just meh. I appreciated the ending but to get there was just not all that great in my opinion.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Jun 23, 2023 17:46:26 GMT -6
The slow burn of this imminent randomone/BRB teacher/student feud is our Bloodline story. He introduced me to you degenerates 10 years ago (you’re welcome for hitting the jackpot by the way!).
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Post by Optimisn on Jun 25, 2023 10:25:23 GMT -6
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Post by Ryansback on Jun 25, 2023 10:57:54 GMT -6
Hell of a thing when someone is actually quoted with their name attached to it.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Jun 25, 2023 16:03:21 GMT -6
Eddie gets it. As long as Punk is good for business, then who gives a shit.
Tony still should get all the parties in a room and hash it all out.
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Post by Ryansback on Jun 25, 2023 17:17:26 GMT -6
Eddie gets it. As long as Punk is good for business, then who gives a shit. Tony still should get all the parties in a room and hash it all out. I almost blame Tony more for this than anyone else.
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Post by Optimisn on Jun 27, 2023 16:47:32 GMT -6
Someone made a suggestion that Dave cut star points off if a match has moves that could literally cripple someone. Not a bad idea.
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Post by Ryansback on Sept 7, 2023 7:04:29 GMT -6
It is wild to me how much time Dave spends promoting AEW and defending Tony Khan as a “wrestling journalist.” If he behaved this way in the 80’s, nearly everyone in the older wrestling community would love him. Gotta love those aew perks and paychecks.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 7, 2023 7:17:23 GMT -6
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Post by Ryansback on Sept 7, 2023 9:34:30 GMT -6
And now he’s using AEW valuation as an argument.
1. Valuations are one of the fakest numbers in business. Profitability and EBITDA is far more valuable.
2. I don’t care about that stuff. I just wanted a wrestling company telling good stories with meaningful wrestling.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 7, 2023 9:55:59 GMT -6
Their projections are so high because WBD bought part of the company.
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Post by PositivelyJackref on Sept 7, 2023 10:02:30 GMT -6
Where are these numbers?
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 7, 2023 10:04:19 GMT -6
Dave has them, don't you worry. Just trust him.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 8, 2023 10:23:11 GMT -6
The AEW $1B valuation story source? Dave Meltzer.
You can't make this stuff up.
Unless you're Dave Meltzer.
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Post by Ryansback on Sept 8, 2023 10:36:41 GMT -6
Yep. And even if it's true, I go back to what I said earlier. I've been around a lot of this stuff professionally. I've been in the C-level and board meetings with PE companies as well - Billion plus corporations and much smaller as well. All this shit means nothing until you have an actual offer. You really don't have a valuation as a private company until you actually sell. And if you want to be a company that has a rock solid value, show you are profitable. There's no way in hell AEW is yet. That's not a knock by the way. They are a high spending start-up company still. I'm sure I can find a lot of way to knock down spending, but I wouldn't even think about profitability if I was Tony until after year 5 simply due to the influx of cash he has. He had a chance to accelerate growth because of that - and he did (Wembley). But this is they type of shit that drives me nuts about Dave. Kind of makes something up or has unreliable/unqualified sources and then will battle the next 20 people on twitter who question it. He's completely gone goofy. I appreciated his wrestling ratings back in the day until he fucked that up. There was a spot for him where I did appreciate what he did. I never really appreciated his rumor reporting but then wanted to be treated as a credible writer. That's where I've always had my issue with him. Just own what you are.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 8, 2023 10:45:27 GMT -6
All you need to know about valuations is that the White Sox are valued at over a billion dollars.
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