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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 20:57:00 GMT -6
Can I just say that the WWE completely ruined the Wyatts and never let that stable reach its full potential.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Nov 19, 2014 21:21:45 GMT -6
Can I just say that the WWE completely ruined the Wyatts and never let that stable reach its full potential. Yes. Yes you can. |
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Post by Danny Busch on Nov 19, 2014 21:39:11 GMT -6
They ruined it for no reason. What did they gain from it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 22:17:52 GMT -6
The only redeeming move at this point they could do would be for the family to completely hijack Survivor Series and take everyone out at the end. Have someone like a Stephanie McMahon or John Cena disappear. Total chaos.
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Post by Optimisn on Nov 19, 2014 22:21:40 GMT -6
The only redeeming move at this point they could do would be for the family to completely hijack Survivor Series and take everyone out at the end. Have someone like a Stephanie McMahon or John Cena disappear. Total chaos. Oh my. No chance. But oh my. |
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Post by November KS on Nov 19, 2014 22:22:41 GMT -6
I'll never understand how/why they handled the Wyatts the way they did. How has Bray never worn a belt yet? How did Harper/Rowan not have a good 6 month run with the tag belts? How is Bray supposed to be perceived as some sort of maker of men or whatever he is, when none of the above has happened?
I could go on and on. Don't get me started.
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Post by Danny Busch on Nov 19, 2014 22:25:35 GMT -6
Speaking of getting started. Try waking up before 10.30 pm tomorrow.
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Post by November KS on Nov 19, 2014 22:30:53 GMT -6
Speaking of getting started. Try waking up before 10.30 pm tomorrow. Do you not recall our Discovery America conversation earlier today? Or whatever that network is called. |
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Post by Optimisn on Nov 19, 2014 22:33:26 GMT -6
I'll never understand how/why they handled the Wyatts the way they did. How has Bray never worn a belt yet? How did Harper/Rowan not have a good 6 month run with the tag belts? How is Bray supposed to be perceived as some sort of maker of men or whatever he is, when none of the above has happened? I could go on and on. Don't get me started. I don't think characters like the Wyatts need titles. I know this isn't the 80's, but they are Jake Roberts like performers. If the development could stay on track, they could go years without any championships. They were very over, and could have stayed that way, without titles. But they make it too difficult, and they have too many hours to fill. |
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Post by Danny Busch on Nov 19, 2014 22:34:53 GMT -6
Speaking of getting started. Try waking up before 10.30 pm tomorrow. Do you not recall our Discovery America conversation earlier today? Or whatever that network is called. I don't recall anything that happens outside of the big unit thread. |
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Post by November KS on Nov 19, 2014 22:37:51 GMT -6
And can we talk about the 45 minutes or so of actual bell to bell televised wrestling that the E is putting out these days? A 3 hour show averaging roughly 45 minutes of actual wresting shown on TV.
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Post by November KS on Nov 19, 2014 23:00:17 GMT -6
This is pretty damn cool of Jericho if I'm reading it correctly. Wants to work house shows but doesn't want to appear on TV. Loves the business (and an extra check) but doesn't want to take away from others appearing on TV.
Is there a limit on this man's unselfishness?
- Chris Jericho is said to be in negotiations with WWE for a new deal at the moment. The new deal would reportedly have Jericho appear at additional live events in the month of January 2015 and have him working a full live event schedule throughout January and February next year. Currently, Jericho is scheduled to appear at the WWE house show in Las Vegas, Nevada on January 17. There is speculation he might appear in the WWE Royal Rumble match as well.
WWE officials are apparently confident they will reach a new deal with Jericho because they told the marketing department Jericho will be working a full live event schedule in January and February. The plan is that Jericho would work solely at live events instead of TV shows and PPV, basically the opposite of Brock Lesnar’s current deal.
Those plans could change because Jericho did not want to work the recent Smackdown taping during WWE’s recent European tour, but he ended up working the tapings anyway. Currently, Jericho is not scheduled to work WrestleMania 31 next March. However, his current Fozzy European tour is slated to end on March 21, which would potentially free Jericho up for a WrestleMania 31 gig.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 23:17:35 GMT -6
I'll never understand how/why they handled the Wyatts the way they did. How has Bray never worn a belt yet? How did Harper/Rowan not have a good 6 month run with the tag belts? How is Bray supposed to be perceived as some sort of maker of men or whatever he is, when none of the above has happened? I could go on and on. Don't get me started. I don't think characters like the Wyatts need titles. I know this isn't the 80's, but they are Jake Roberts like performers. If the development could stay on track, they could go years without any championships. They were very over, and could have stayed that way, without titles. But they make it too difficult, and they have too many hours to fill. I think it'd be cooler to see them break down champions, but not want their belts. I completely agree with Drop In. I think that's what could have made their stable so insane. Their intentions were unknown. They were more about breaking down people, creating followers. Their intentions were bigger than championships. There could have been a hell of a run there. I still would love to see them hijack Survivor Series in the end. No one sees it coming. Wyatt's on both teams. Bray does some bizarre shit as well. Maybe he kidnaps the old man (Vince) or teases it backstage on titantron. Triple H and Stephanie freak out. They go running to the back. Maybe corporate Kane and John Cena run to the back with them (because John is Superman and would feel compelled to save Vince. They all take off to the back. Leaves 4 men left at this point (with a wyatt on each team). So maybe Dolph and Seth Rollins remain with them...Lights go off...come back on. Rollins, Ziggler knocked out and bloodied with Luke Harper, Eric Rowan and Bray Wyatt all standing over them. Fucking chaos...now back to backstage...We get shots of our other group who went to save Vince. He's not there. They can't find him........there's a note that says to look at the laptop on the desk......and they look....there is a live stream video playing of.........Shane McMahon tied up and gagged. He appears to be in a basement.....and you see someone covered in black garb with Vince over his shoulder and throws him in a chair and sets him up just like Shane...Back to the Wyatts who are watching this on the Titantron...singing now he's got the whole world in his hands.... Jaw drop ending to a shitty ass build to a ppv... |
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Post by November KS on Nov 19, 2014 23:37:57 GMT -6
I agree that they're the type that don't really need the belts but if you're gonna go that way, you can't really have Harper/Rowan lose 130 matches in a row to the flippin Usos.
You also can't have Bray lose to Cena despite help from his hired henchmen.
So the E (and Bray) portray Bray as some eater of worlds, molder of men but he doesn't eat or mold shit. What does he do exactly for people that they would want to join him?
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Post by randomone on Nov 20, 2014 10:16:05 GMT -6
Also, randomone, what do you have against The Rock vs Triple H? You don't think that'd be good? One of the greatest rivalries in the last 20 years... It absolutely is one of the greatest, no argument there. And I'd be fine with the match, it's just that I didn't really care for the last Cena/Rock match, granted Dwayne got hurt during it, but I just didn't have that Holy Shit amazing feeling watching it. I think also the product today just makes me automatically think things will be shit & be pleasantly surprised when it's not. Onto the Wyatt's pitch of yours, that's fucking impressive. Some thought had to go into that. Certainly more thought than WWE has put into it. |
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Post by randomone on Nov 20, 2014 10:38:33 GMT -6
The Usos got nothing out of that feud. Hell I'd be fine with it still going on had they traded the belts from time to time. Matches were pretty damn good. A lot better than seeing the Matadors challenge for the titles. (though Mizdow is involved so I'm fine).
Unless they do something big, Rowan will no doubt get lost in the shuffle quick. What is he going to do after I assume he feuds with Harper? It's obvious Harper is the better talent of the two. I fear Rowan will be a Snitsky comedy act. Was the whole "It's Coming" on the vignettes just to do with Wyatt coming back? I thought The Ascension was supposed to be involved somehow.
What I'd like to have happen is much like Woodridge Ryan, have this all be a setup. Have Rowan turn on his team & fuck it, have Harper turn on his. The Wyatt's give both teams false sense of security, thinking they can rely on them when they can't. Have them be wild cards, you have no idea who or when they'll strike. Faces or heels, have them go after everyone, make The Wyatt's be their Ministry of Darkness. Add The Ascension so that there's 5 of them (2 lost should that needed saving & are now saved thanks to Bray). Then you also have The Authority & the faces like Cena and you're right back in 1999, just don't fuck it up by having another 20 person super faction like the Corporate Ministry. Cena hates the Authority & vice versa, but have The Wyatt's going after both of them.
Only problem is in 1999 they had a World Champion. In 2014 their champion doesn't work TV. So really what is anyone fighting for in the first place? Hell Rollins is MITB, but it takes away its luster when the whole "he can cash in any time" doesn't make sense since your champion hasn't been on TV in 2 months.
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Post by November KS on Nov 20, 2014 13:42:38 GMT -6
We noted before that another stipulation was added during the Smackdown tapings that would see Team Cena be fired if they lost on Sunday.
Raj Giri from WrestlingInc.com received an email from a fan that was at the show and noted that Triple H seemingly excluded John Cena from the stipulation. The way it was described was that Triple H said that he wouldn’t fire Cena because he still has value to WWE but the other four were replaceable. According to the fan report, he also said that even if he did fire Cena that Cena is set for life money=wise but the other four would be hurting.
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Post by Danny Busch on Nov 20, 2014 13:57:30 GMT -6
Awful stipulation
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Post by randomone on Nov 20, 2014 14:00:54 GMT -6
WWE's attempt to make sure you go into your Thanksgiving holiday as miserable as possible......
WWE performer Santino Marella is scheduled to appear at this Monday's 11/24 WWE RAW in Indianapolis, Indiana according to a report by Mike Johnson. Marella will be there to help promote the upcoming "Jingle all the Way 2" he filmed with Larry the Cable Guy, who will also be appearing on this Monday's RAW. Marella has been off WWE TV since the spring after undergoing surgery on his neck. Marella had decided to retire from in-ring competition after the surgery, but has since said he wants to make a return to the ring.
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Post by November KS on Nov 20, 2014 14:16:03 GMT -6
Hmmmm While it was reported that Sheamus’ injuries from RAW were all storyline, he posted the following on Twitter this morning. WWE’s latest update on Sheamus from Tuesday noted that he “suffered a left cervical neurapraxia (stinger in arm), bone spurring, narrowing of the spinal canal (spinal stenosis) and narrowing of the nerve canals (neuroforaminal) along with nerve compression in his neck.”  |
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Nov 20, 2014 14:22:22 GMT -6
We noted before that another stipulation was added during the Smackdown tapings that would see Team Cena be fired if they lost on Sunday.
Raj Giri from WrestlingInc.com received an email from a fan that was at the show and noted that Triple H seemingly excluded John Cena from the stipulation. The way it was described was that Triple H said that he wouldn’t fire Cena because he still has value to WWE but the other four were replaceable. According to the fan report, he also said that even if he did fire Cena that Cena is set for life money=wise but the other four would be hurting. If that's the case, then I am okay with the actual stipulation. It needed to be brought up before the Smackdown before the PPV to sell it though. |
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Post by Danny Busch on Nov 20, 2014 14:34:36 GMT -6
Hmmmm While it was reported that Sheamus’ injuries from RAW were all storyline, he posted the following on Twitter this morning. WWE’s latest update on Sheamus from Tuesday noted that he “suffered a left cervical neurapraxia (stinger in arm), bone spurring, narrowing of the spinal canal (spinal stenosis) and narrowing of the nerve canals (neuroforaminal) along with nerve compression in his neck.” Ummm. Spinal stenosis will force him into retirement. They don't fuck around with that. |
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Post by November KS on Nov 20, 2014 16:06:11 GMT -6
Kevin Owens vignette. Watch it before the E takes it down.
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Post by November KS on Nov 20, 2014 20:02:02 GMT -6
Zack Ryder noted in a recent youtube video that he had to fly out to Birmingham, Alabama to get checked out. He said that the MRI showed that he has a full thickness tear in his rotator cuff. He will try to delay or avoid surgery if possible and got stem cell injections this past week. They took bone marrow from his hip and inject it in his shoulder. If the rehab doesn’t work out then he’ll have to get the surgery. He said that he should hopefully know by the end of the year if he’ll need surgery or not.
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Post by Danny Busch on Nov 20, 2014 20:05:28 GMT -6
Is he pitching or something? tape it up, do a line and get in your bunny suit.
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Post by November KS on Nov 20, 2014 21:00:37 GMT -6
WWE sent out the following statement today in response to riot threats. The concern stems from the fact that the grand jury in the Michael Brown case in Ferguson, Missouri could have their verdict read soon. Missouri governor Jay Brown has declared a state of emergency for the state of Missouri and has asked for the National Guard to be brought in in case the verdict is read this weekend. Survivor Series will be in St. Louis, Missouri this Sunday.
Here is WWE’s statement:
“As always, WWE is working closely with the venue to ensure the safety of our fans and performers, and they will keep us abreast of any developments.”
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Post by randomone on Nov 21, 2014 15:17:41 GMT -6
I forgot all about the Randy Savage documentary they came out with until the commercial this past Monday. I watched it last night & thought it was pretty good. It's not at the Rise & Fall of ECW or Punk story level, which are my favorites, but it's really interesting. Probably the most interesting part of it was his baseball days & how he decided to become a wrestler. Glad they had his brother & mother talk a lot throughout.
Only thing I was disappointed in was that there was Zero mention of his work with Sherri, which was amazing. Zero mention of his feuds with Warrior, Dusty, Jake or Flair either. It went from talking in length about his relationship with Elizabeth backstage & how he was overprotective to boom Summerslam 1991 & then they divorce.
I did like how apparently Savage when he was a commentator had a pitch to Vince about how he wanted to do a long feud with Shawn Michaels, leading to HBK finally defeating Savage, sending him back to the commentary booth, but WWF didn't want to because they had a youth movement.
Overall since he's one of my Top 5 all time favorites, of course I'll recommend watching it, but I was wanting more info on feuds. Maybe there's stories on the extras, not sure, I just watched the doc. Incredibly sad ending though.
And yes, there is a part of the story about Slim Jims.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Nov 21, 2014 16:24:55 GMT -6
I forgot all about the Randy Savage documentary they came out with until the commercial this past Monday. I watched it last night & thought it was pretty good. It's not at the Rise & Fall of ECW or Punk story level, which are my favorites, but it's really interesting. Probably the most interesting part of it was his baseball days & how he decided to become a wrestler. Glad they had his brother & mother talk a lot throughout. Only thing I was disappointed in was that there was Zero mention of his work with Sherri, which was amazing. Zero mention of his feuds with Warrior, Dusty, Jake or Flair either. It went from talking in length about his relationship with Elizabeth backstage & how he was overprotective to boom Summerslam 1991 & then they divorce. I did like how apparently Savage when he was a commentator had a pitch to Vince about how he wanted to do a long feud with Shawn Michaels, leading to HBK finally defeating Savage, sending him back to the commentary booth, but WWF didn't want to because they had a youth movement. Overall since he's one of my Top 5 all time favorites, of course I'll recommend watching it, but I was wanting more info on feuds. Maybe there's stories on the extras, not sure, I just watched the doc. Incredibly sad ending though. And yes, there is a part of the story about Slim Jims. They would do that in a heartbeat today. Any excuse to bring an old guy in. |
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Post by November KS on Nov 21, 2014 21:57:36 GMT -6
This is a massive spoiler potentially. Don't click if you want to be surprised on Sunday. Sting is scheduled to make his debut at Sunday’s Survivor Series according to Mike Johnson at PWI. The company wants to make a big impact with this show so they can keep the free subscribers around when it’s time to renew the WWE Network. |
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Post by Danny Busch on Nov 21, 2014 21:58:34 GMT -6
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