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Post by randomone on Apr 6, 2021 8:10:24 GMT -6
As someone who defends Dave more than any of you jerks on here combined...
I got nothin for this one, haha
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Apr 6, 2021 9:13:20 GMT -6
Bryan had 4 words and then Dave went stream-of-consciousness for 20 minutes nonstop. Haha.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Apr 6, 2021 9:57:49 GMT -6
I need a translator for that shit. Dave should only express his thoughts in print.
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Post by Optimisn on Apr 6, 2021 10:17:41 GMT -6
randomone, could you ask your people why Tony Khan is putting on muscle and doing heel promos on other programming? The only acceptable answer is working on health. Thanks.
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Post by randomone on Apr 6, 2021 10:24:26 GMT -6
I agree that they have way too many people on TV for a 2 hour program. Too many factions, too many brawlings that lead to matches the following week. Come up with something original to book a match the next show. WWE has thrown in the towel on that concept years & years ago and their product has become nearly unwatchable (RAW has entirely). Tony doing heel promos on Impact is pretty funny to me. It's the only bit of Impact I watch and that's just because it gets posted to Twitter.
I also don't think Dave checks out Dark or Elevation because him saying things like the Max Caster vs Hangman match tomorrow makes no sense isn't true. Caster has beaten 5, 10, Alex Reynolds & Colt Cabana on the Dark shows and said he's running through the Dark Order and called out Hangman. So it absolutely makes sense for a match like this to happen. Caster has been undefeated since the ladder match and has 4 wins over Dark Order guys, so of course he makes sense to face Hangman.
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Post by randomone on Apr 6, 2021 10:26:42 GMT -6
Bryan had 4 words and then Dave went stream-of-consciousness for 20 minutes nonstop. Haha. He picks weird times to go off on something. Like apparently last night on RAW (didn't see it) but Kofi whipped a microphone at Omos and commentary said it was a fastball. Dave on last nights WOR went off about how it wasn't thrown that hard and also Omos didn't sell it. Bryan tried to tell him that Omos is a monster and shouldn't be selling anything, even though Kofi threw the mic pretty hard. Dave was having none of it, to the point where Bryan gave up and just said agree to disagree. |
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Post by Ryansback on Apr 18, 2021 20:59:44 GMT -6
Sasha Banks vs Bianca Belair for the SmackDown Women’s Championship
Rating: 4.00 stars
Boy, if this closed an AEW Dynamite... 🙄
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Post by randomone on Apr 18, 2021 21:23:50 GMT -6
I'd give it 4.25 if it were me. It was nowhere near 5 stars and I honestly liked Britt/Rosa (which Dave gave 4.75) more because of how unique the match was for women (yes it happens all the time for men, but never for women, at least on mainstream TV). I know the Britt/Rosa match isn't everyone's cup of tea, but that's another thread.
If anything, I thought Sasha & Bianca could've gone like 7 more minutes. It was almost as if they were about to kick it into another gear and it just ended (and even threw off robot Michael Cole). 17 minutes though it solid, but it flew by, which is a testament to them. A part of me was happy they didn't do false finishes galore, but then again, it's Mania, so I was hoping.
I thought it was better than Seth/Cesaro and Riddle/Sheamus, which also both got 4 stars, but not better than Roman/Edge/Bryan, which got 4.5, the highest rated Mania match.
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Post by Ryansback on Apr 23, 2021 6:56:06 GMT -6
Charlotte Flair, well said.
“You have my phone number. It would take you 30 seconds to ask as opposed to giving straight crap to your listeners. Grow up. For you, of all people, to comment on a woman’s looks…”
😂
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Apr 23, 2021 8:05:18 GMT -6
What was she responding to?
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Apr 23, 2021 8:39:53 GMT -6
I don't think she being fair to Uncle Dave here.
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Post by randomone on Apr 23, 2021 8:57:44 GMT -6
What was she responding to? On Observer Radio, Dave mentioned the reason she was storyline suspended is she’s getting dental work done and said one of the negatives in wrestling is they make females really subconscious about their looks and feel they need to get stuff done. In one case I see his point, we’ve seen a lot of these girls get work done (in Charlottes case, she’s had a lot) when they are on TV and it’s really unnecessary. Whether it be nose jobs, massive boob jobs, lip fillers, etc. On the other hand, it’s their decision, so why judge that? If they feel pressured into getting a bunch of work done, it’s ultimately their call. You could tell Dave was treading lightly because of the ridiculous Peyton Royce comments years ago that landed him in hot water. He said he thought she was more attractive in NXT before she felt the need to get surgery done for the main roster and also she was “more lighter” in NXT. He was flat out wrong with that one (see, I can actually say that!) Charlotte has had like a crazy amount of surgeries since 2015 though. |
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Post by randomone on Apr 23, 2021 8:59:03 GMT -6
Peeps did better detective work looking for the actual audio clip while I typed out that whole damn thing haha
I don’t follow Charlotte on Twitter so I didn’t think of it
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Apr 23, 2021 9:22:58 GMT -6
Peeps did better detective work looking for the actual audio clip while I typed out that whole damn thing haha I don’t follow Charlotte on Twitter so I didn’t think of it Me neither haha. I did search for her to find out what was up and found her response to the audio. Dave wasn't wrong. Charlotte just is unhappy with herself. |
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Apr 23, 2021 10:27:49 GMT -6
Thanks guys.
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Post by Optimisn on May 19, 2021 14:05:15 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Aug 15, 2021 18:29:58 GMT -6
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Sept 4, 2021 23:23:50 GMT -6
Bryan Alvarez is a goddamn heel.
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Post by Optimisn on Nov 19, 2021 14:16:14 GMT -6
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Nov 19, 2021 15:00:34 GMT -6
Never thought I'd find myself on the same side of an argument as Madden, but I agree with him here.
Star ratings are subjective, but Dave clearly has a bias. I love AEW too, but c'mon...there were no 5-star matches on Full Gear. There were MAYBE two 4-star matches.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Nov 19, 2021 15:11:02 GMT -6
The new high is 7 stars, right?
So I could believe there were some 5 star matches based on a 7 star scale.
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Post by Optimisn on Feb 8, 2022 10:17:31 GMT -6
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 8, 2022 11:31:17 GMT -6
Chris Van Vliet is correct.
I understand Dave's star ratings are just one man's opinion, but when your platform is as big as his, and your biases are displayed so openly and freely, your credibility can and should be questioned.
I love AEW as much as anyone but there's no way in hell there have been more than 4 or 5 five-star matches in their two year existence.
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Post by randomone on Feb 8, 2022 12:00:09 GMT -6
In my opinion I’d say there’s around 10 five stars in AEW
The lack of 5 stars in TNA I don’t agree with. There should be more. I don’t know what they are but I AJ vs Joe vs Daniels are one. I can only assume the brain dead booking and nonsense that overflowed in TNA might’ve been a reason? That’s me grasping straws there. The X Division had more than 2 five stars.
World title scene in TNA wasn’t really overflowing with match of the year dudes though, it’s really the X Division fellas that would’ve put on 5 star matches
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Post by randomone on Feb 18, 2022 12:03:35 GMT -6
Observer Awards for 2021 are officially out
Wrestler of the Year - Kenny Omega
Most Outstanding Wrestler - Shingo Takagi
Tag Team of the Year - The Young Bucks
Best on Interviews - MJF
Promotion of the Year - AEW
Best Weekly TV Show - AEW Dynamite
Match of the Year - Young Bucks vs. Lucha Brothers - All Out
US/Canada MVP - Kenny Omega
Japan MVP - Shingo Takagi
Mexico MVP - El Hijo Del Vikingo
Europe MVP - Will Ospreay
Danny Hodge Award (Non-Heavyweight MVP) - Darby Allin
Women's MVP - Utami Hayashishita
Best Box Office Draw - CM Punk
Feud of the Year - Kenny Omega vs. Hangman Page
Most Improved - Tay Conti
Most Charismatic - CM Punk
Bryan Danielson Award (Best Technical Wrestler) - Bryan Danielson
Bruiser Brody Award (Best Brawler) - Jon Moxley
Best Flying Wrestler - Rey Fenix
Most Overrated - EVIL
Most Underrated - Ricochet
Rookie of the Year - Jade Cargil
Best Non-Wrestler - Paul Heyman
Best TV Announcer - Excalibur
Worst TV Announcer - Corey Graves
Best Major Wrestling Show - All Out 2021
Worst Major Wrestling Show - Survivor Series 2021
Best Wrestling Maneuver - Buckshot Lariat
Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic - Firing People During Global Pandemic While Setting Record Profits
Worst TV Show - WWE Monday Night RAW
Worst Match of the Year - Miz vs. Damien Priest (Zombie Lumberjack Match)
Worst Feud of the Year - Randy Orton vs. The Fiend & Alexa Bliss
Worst Promotion of the Year - WWE
Best Booker of the Year - Tony Khan
Promoter of the Year - Tony Khan
Best Gimmick - Roman Reigns
Worst Gimmick - Alexa Bliss
Best Wrestling Book - Mox
Best Wrestling DVD/Streaming Documentary - Dark Side of the Ring: Brian Pillman
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Post by November KS on Feb 18, 2022 12:14:16 GMT -6
Looks correct to me.
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 18, 2022 15:59:08 GMT -6
How are the Young Bucks the tag team of the year?
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 18, 2022 16:00:06 GMT -6
Punk as best box office draw??
Come on.
He didn't draw near as much as Roman or Brock.
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Post by The Original Kid Cairo on Feb 18, 2022 16:19:21 GMT -6
How are the Young Bucks the tag team of the year? You don't think they had a hell of a run in 2021 prior to dropping the titles to the Lucha Bros? What team had a better year? |
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Post by Positivity Peeps on Feb 18, 2022 16:27:29 GMT -6
I guess they had a decent run. But fuck it seemed like they all of their matches were full of garbage.
I guess I can't really complain about that.
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